Meditate towards no thought

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

I thought I'd share a particular way to meditate. This most

likely takes lots of practice. So far I've never met a beginner

who could actually do this for more than a few seconds.

 

Before I share it, I'd just like to say, that as far as I

know, our minds are constantly " gabbing " away in one way or

another. Very rarely does it stop. It may not always be in

words, but none-the-less something is always there. Because it

is an instilled program (or at least it seems that way) it is

difficult to even remember that one can shut it off.

 

I'm sure this is something quite ancient as the particular

course I did this from was more or less founded from a Buddhism

type of meditation. However, the foundation then became

applicable in other areas as well.

 

Here's the procedure

 

You just simply sit with your eyes closed and remember to

breath. As you do this you relax, however, do so until you no

longer have any attention on your body. Make sure you are well

fed, have no bathroom needs, are not tired and have a quiet area

to practice. Later as you get better and better it won't

matter if an area is quiet or not.

 

As you just simply sit, do nothing. Just be there and sit.

Don't twitch, flinch, move around restlessly, bounce a knee,

rock back and forth, etc. You don't have to be rigid, but just

notice any type of movement that is other than just sitting and

remind yourself to be still and just be there comfortable with

yourself.

 

Then the next thing is to create yourself into observation

mode. Instead of getting all caught up into the " think tank " ,

observe it, tell it thank you or yes, I see it and let it go.

After doing this for a time, then create a " blank " . Doesn't

matter how you do it. You can create a space and then put

absolutely nothing in it. Or you can push all thoughts away and

not think at all. When I first started doing that I could only

do it for seconds at a time. The whole idea is to not have

words, thoughts, pictures etc going on at that moment.

 

In doing something like this I suggest about 10 minutes a day

just to get the hang of it and then make it longer, like into

1/2 hour a day eventually. It does take practice to maintain

" no thoughts " .

 

Here is my theory about this as well.

 

The more you practice the more you will understand being in

the here and now. I understand that this particular " state " has

no emotion or thought. It is just a foundation. Its a start of

being able to add other things to it that are beneficial.

 

This one meditation is what sometimes creates it so that I

can become rather telepathic when I'm in front of someone and

sometimes at a distance. When I'm not in that particular

foundational state I'm not nearly as receptive as I have my own

" stuff " playing. I can turn this on or off at will.

 

Here's an example of what you can build with that particular

technique.

 

First I go into the " non-thought " mode. After that I can add

whatever intention or emotion I want. I can totally listen to

someone else where it has no effect upon me. Or, I can totally

listen to someone else and create love on the spot or joy. I

can start with the foundation and add happiness and healing

intentions towards someone who needs a healing. I can add white

light energy (or whatever other color) to it and send it more

succinctly to its mark. I have no thoughts of my own except

that one because I pushed everything else out of the way and

only focus on " nothing " and then " healing " .

 

When I give sessions I can go into this mode and then add

" interest " . This has the person knowing that I'm totally there

with them and then I can add any knowledge I may know at that

time in order to guide if its necessary.

 

Also, when I start at the foundation I can look at how much

space I encompass at that time. I can expand or contract space.

When you can expand or contract a particular energy, it moves.

When it moves it starts to become lighter and one can actually

move it out and away or break it apart or vanish it. Having

this ability with EFT or other meridian therapies is a big plus.

 

You can experiment as you get better at it and use it for all

types of things in life. Eventually you will see how clear

things become and how light and easy certain areas can be.

 

I hope the above is of some help to someone .

 

Love,

Lyn

 

 

- We Remember

9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost

http://dir.remember./tribute

[Guest guest]

This was very helpful. I am just beginning a fresh start at meditation, so

it's good timing for me. Thanks!

 

Daryl

 

Laffin Lyn [rayofsunn]

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:56 PM

EmotionalFreedomTechniques

Cc: EmotionsPlus

Meditate towards " no thought "

 

 

Hi

 

I thought I'd share a particular way to meditate. This most

likely takes lots of practice. So far I've never met a beginner

who could actually do this for more than a few seconds.

 

Before I share it, I'd just like to say, that as far as I

know, our minds are constantly " gabbing " away in one way or

another. Very rarely does it stop. It may not always be in

words, but none-the-less something is always there. Because it

is an instilled program (or at least it seems that way) it is

difficult to even remember that one can shut it off.

 

I'm sure this is something quite ancient as the particular

course I did this from was more or less founded from a Buddhism

type of meditation. However, the foundation then became

applicable in other areas as well.

 

Here's the procedure

 

You just simply sit with your eyes closed and remember to

breath. As you do this you relax, however, do so until you no

longer have any attention on your body. Make sure you are well

fed, have no bathroom needs, are not tired and have a quiet area

to practice. Later as you get better and better it won't

matter if an area is quiet or not.

 

As you just simply sit, do nothing. Just be there and sit.

Don't twitch, flinch, move around restlessly, bounce a knee,

rock back and forth, etc. You don't have to be rigid, but just

notice any type of movement that is other than just sitting and

remind yourself to be still and just be there comfortable with

yourself.

 

Then the next thing is to create yourself into observation

mode. Instead of getting all caught up into the " think tank " ,

observe it, tell it thank you or yes, I see it and let it go.

After doing this for a time, then create a " blank " . Doesn't

matter how you do it. You can create a space and then put

absolutely nothing in it. Or you can push all thoughts away and

not think at all. When I first started doing that I could only

do it for seconds at a time. The whole idea is to not have

words, thoughts, pictures etc going on at that moment.

 

In doing something like this I suggest about 10 minutes a day

just to get the hang of it and then make it longer, like into

1/2 hour a day eventually. It does take practice to maintain

" no thoughts " .

 

Here is my theory about this as well.

 

The more you practice the more you will understand being in

the here and now. I understand that this particular " state " has

no emotion or thought. It is just a foundation. Its a start of

being able to add other things to it that are beneficial.

 

This one meditation is what sometimes creates it so that I

can become rather telepathic when I'm in front of someone and

sometimes at a distance. When I'm not in that particular

foundational state I'm not nearly as receptive as I have my own

" stuff " playing. I can turn this on or off at will.

 

Here's an example of what you can build with that particular

technique.

 

First I go into the " non-thought " mode. After that I can add

whatever intention or emotion I want. I can totally listen to

someone else where it has no effect upon me. Or, I can totally

listen to someone else and create love on the spot or joy. I

can start with the foundation and add happiness and healing

intentions towards someone who needs a healing. I can add white

light energy (or whatever other color) to it and send it more

succinctly to its mark. I have no thoughts of my own except

that one because I pushed everything else out of the way and

only focus on " nothing " and then " healing " .

 

When I give sessions I can go into this mode and then add

" interest " . This has the person knowing that I'm totally there

with them and then I can add any knowledge I may know at that

time in order to guide if its necessary.

 

Also, when I start at the foundation I can look at how much

space I encompass at that time. I can expand or contract space.

When you can expand or contract a particular energy, it moves.

When it moves it starts to become lighter and one can actually

move it out and away or break it apart or vanish it. Having

this ability with EFT or other meridian therapies is a big plus.

 

You can experiment as you get better at it and use it for all

types of things in life. Eventually you will see how clear

things become and how light and easy certain areas can be.

 

I hope the above is of some help to someone .

 

Love,

Lyn

 

- We Remember

9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost

http://dir.remember./tribute

 

[Guest guest]

This is quite like Stuart Wilde's " Pure Observation " meditation, where you do

not discuss it internally, and hence " judge " anything. You just passively

observe.

 

I've found that approach quite interesting, one of his exercises is to go to the

" no thought " mode, and then (with the eyes open of course!) watch a clock face

with a second hand, When you're REALLY deeply into the PURE OBSERVATION thing,

the hand on the clock seems to stop, and when I've tried it (and what Stuart

Wilde comments on) you usually drag yourself out of the state wiith the tought,

" the clock's stopped! "

Its a very interesting state of mind, I wonder if anyone has done anything else

witth this " no thought " approach of yours Lyn?

 

Cheers,

 

Simon Clifford

Kidderminster, UK.

(ps if anyone's got any thoughts on astral/OOB stuff - I'd love to hear from

you!)

-

Daryl Kulak

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:48 PM

RE: Meditate towards " no thought "

 

 

This was very helpful. I am just beginning a fresh start at meditation, so

it's good timing for me. Thanks!

 

Daryl

 

Laffin Lyn [rayofsunn]

Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:56 PM

EmotionalFreedomTechniques

Cc: EmotionsPlus

Meditate towards " no thought "

 

 

Hi

 

I thought I'd share a particular way to meditate. This most

likely takes lots of practice. So far I've never met a beginner

who could actually do this for more than a few seconds.

 

Before I share it, I'd just like to say, that as far as I

know, our minds are constantly " gabbing " away in one way or

another. Very rarely does it stop. It may not always be in

words, but none-the-less something is always there. Because it

is an instilled program (or at least it seems that way) it is

difficult to even remember that one can shut it off.

 

I'm sure this is something quite ancient as the particular

course I did this from was more or less founded from a Buddhism

type of meditation. However, the foundation then became

applicable in other areas as well.

 

Here's the procedure

 

You just simply sit with your eyes closed and remember to

breath. As you do this you relax, however, do so until you no

longer have any attention on your body. Make sure you are well

fed, have no bathroom needs, are not tired and have a quiet area

to practice. Later as you get better and better it won't

matter if an area is quiet or not.

 

As you just simply sit, do nothing. Just be there and sit.

Don't twitch, flinch, move around restlessly, bounce a knee,

rock back and forth, etc. You don't have to be rigid, but just

notice any type of movement that is other than just sitting and

remind yourself to be still and just be there comfortable with

yourself.

 

Then the next thing is to create yourself into observation

mode. Instead of getting all caught up into the " think tank " ,

observe it, tell it thank you or yes, I see it and let it go.

After doing this for a time, then create a " blank " . Doesn't

matter how you do it. You can create a space and then put

absolutely nothing in it. Or you can push all thoughts away and

not think at all. When I first started doing that I could only

do it for seconds at a time. The whole idea is to not have

words, thoughts, pictures etc going on at that moment.

 

In doing something like this I suggest about 10 minutes a day

just to get the hang of it and then make it longer, like into

1/2 hour a day eventually. It does take practice to maintain

" no thoughts " .

 

Here is my theory about this as well.

 

The more you practice the more you will understand being in

the here and now. I understand that this particular " state " has

no emotion or thought. It is just a foundation. Its a start of

being able to add other things to it that are beneficial.

 

This one meditation is what sometimes creates it so that I

can become rather telepathic when I'm in front of someone and

sometimes at a distance. When I'm not in that particular

foundational state I'm not nearly as receptive as I have my own

" stuff " playing. I can turn this on or off at will.

 

Here's an example of what you can build with that particular

technique.

 

First I go into the " non-thought " mode. After that I can add

whatever intention or emotion I want. I can totally listen to

someone else where it has no effect upon me. Or, I can totally

listen to someone else and create love on the spot or joy. I

can start with the foundation and add happiness and healing

intentions towards someone who needs a healing. I can add white

light energy (or whatever other color) to it and send it more

succinctly to its mark. I have no thoughts of my own except

that one because I pushed everything else out of the way and

only focus on " nothing " and then " healing " .

 

When I give sessions I can go into this mode and then add

" interest " . This has the person knowing that I'm totally there

with them and then I can add any knowledge I may know at that

time in order to guide if its necessary.

 

Also, when I start at the foundation I can look at how much

space I encompass at that time. I can expand or contract space.

When you can expand or contract a particular energy, it moves.

When it moves it starts to become lighter and one can actually

move it out and away or break it apart or vanish it. Having

this ability with EFT or other meridian therapies is a big plus.

 

You can experiment as you get better at it and use it for all

types of things in life. Eventually you will see how clear

things become and how light and easy certain areas can be.

 

I hope the above is of some help to someone .

 

Love,

Lyn

 

- We Remember

9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost

http://dir.remember./tribute

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Simon:

 

Very interesting . I haven't read Stuart Wilde. But

before you passively observe it helps if you have the no thought

part down pretty well. But some people can observe without

doing that beforehand.

 

As strange as it seems, since I'm already pretty much on

automatic pilot when I drive in certain respects, I do the no

thought and observation thing when I'm driving out in the

country somewhere and not that many cars around me. Sometimes,

I can do it a bit in the city, but there are a lot of

distractions. As a result I can sometimes know when a car is

going to change lanes before they put their signal on and I can

feel sometimes when someone is going to run a red light or jet

out in front, etc. Which actually kinda segues into the oob

experience, doesn't it.

 

How can one have intuition and feel as if something is going

to happen while being inside their body? One has to be out

there somewhere to pick up on the thought or intention.

 

I once learned from someone who I thought had a great view

of oob experiences that really its not a matter of in or out,

its a matter of big or small. Meaning, that if a person can

expand their space beyond their body, while encompassing their

body, then they are both in and out at the same time. Being out

of the body totally with just a string attached or something is

a totally different thing to me and most likely is not quite as

all encompassing.

 

All a person has to do to be out of the body is consider the

room, then close their eyes and have the image of four corners

of the room at the same time. How do you know if you are

imagining it or not? Well, you can experiment by creating an

image of the room in picture form and looking at that. After

that make the picture bigger and smaller and then turn the

picture around. Is your room doing that? I hope not . The

space feels bigger when you " are " bigger. The space feels

smaller when you are just looking at a little picture in front

of your nose (or wherever). So, far that's the best I can do to

help differentiate between the two.

 

So many people experience oob without realizing it. Some, if

you told them they were doing that would totally freak out, but

yet if caught unawares it would be quite natural.

 

Hope I made some sense .

 

Lyn

 

 

--- SimonC <cliffy wrote:

> This is quite like Stuart Wilde's " Pure Observation "

> meditation, where you do not discuss it internally, and hence

> " judge " anything. You just passively observe.

>

> I've found that approach quite interesting, one of his

> exercises is to go to the " no thought " mode, and then (with

> the eyes open of course!) watch a clock face with a second

> hand, When you're REALLY deeply into the PURE OBSERVATION

> thing, the hand on the clock seems to stop, and when I've

> tried it (and what Stuart Wilde comments on) you usually drag

> yourself out of the state wiith the tought, " the clock's

> stopped! "

> Its a very interesting state of mind, I wonder if anyone has

> done anything else witth this " no thought " approach of yours

> Lyn?

>

> Cheers,

>

> Simon Clifford

> Kidderminster, UK.

> (ps if anyone's got any thoughts on astral/OOB stuff - I'd

> love to hear from you!)

 

 

 

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Hi Bompa:

 

 

--- David Benware <Bompa wrote:

>

>

> Laffin Lyn wrote:

>

> > How can one have intuition and feel as if something is

> going

> > to happen while being inside their body? One has to be out

> > there somewhere to pick up on the thought or intention.

>

>

> Why would a person need to be 'out there'? Out there is a

> pretty

> big place, how could a person be in the right place at the

> right

> time?

 

Space is one point to another. You have a small box. Within

that box is a space. In order to have " space " there are borders

or parameters otherwise there'd be no space. It would just be

infinite. Creating the size of the borders or paramaters is

what makes big or little spaces. You can be " out there " only by

inches depending on the space around the body.

 

Its true that a person doesn't always have to be away from the

body to receive intuitions, however, there are times, like when

driving for instance, when a person is expanded enough spacially

to encompass other drivers and the environment with which they

are travelling in.

 

Actually, even considering an " out " or " in " something contains a

border of some kind. If one encompassed the border and created

more space around that even, then one could easily be in or out

of something. This obviously is not with the body as most

bodies don't go through walls (at least not that I've seen so

far), but with either imaging or encompassing more space

(creating it that way).

>

> I always figured that intuition works when a person opens

> themself

> to it.

 

When a person opens themself up what is happening to their own

borders and parameters, etc. When a person decides to become

more aware, just where are they? Are they always inside of

something? Or, do they as you say, " open " themselves up? When

a person closes down what type of space have they created for

themself? When they open themself up, what type of space have

they created for themself (if any)? How big or little are

these spaces or borders?

 

Mothers are naturally intuitively open to their

> children,

> they don't even have to try and they don't have to have their

> innerds going floating around space.

 

You make it sound as if mothers have little " guts " floating

around in the house - lol!!! Mothers encompass the whole house

because that's their amount of space at the time. If they

intuit a child at someone else's house she then has expanded

herself out to that house as well. She is receiving not only

because she's open but because she's unthinkingly " there " as

well. She has " lines " or you can call them threads to that

person attached. You don't have to believe me but I've actually

experimented with this and find that everyone has attachments

(literally) to someone.

 

Expanding one's

> conscious

> awareness, as you refered to " space " , is the same thing as

> opening

> oneself intuitively and I think anyone can do it.

 

If one is expanding one's consciousness - in what way are they

expanding? I only know of a spacial expansion. As far as just

awareness itself, one doesn't necessarily have to expand or

contract, you just know. But generally, I have found people who

are like that, very rarely do it all just from inside their

bodies. They are much more flexible.

 

Lyn

 

 

 

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Laffin Lyn wrote:

 

> How can one have intuition and feel as if something is going

> to happen while being inside their body? One has to be out

> there somewhere to pick up on the thought or intention.

 

 

Why would a person need to be 'out there'? Out there is a pretty

big place, how could a person be in the right place at the right

time?

 

I always figured that intuition works when a person opens themself

to it. Mothers are naturally intuitively open to their children,

they don't even have to try and they don't have to have their

innerds going floating around space. Expanding one's conscious

awareness, as you refered to " space " , is the same thing as opening

oneself intuitively and I think anyone can do it.

 

Bompa

[Guest guest]

Lyn, I love your explanations of no thought.

May I add mine. Long story shortened. The results of an intense 2 year

search taught me that the thought that comes into our minds, is not always

our own. We must learn to back up, out of our 'selves' and look or 'listen'

to what is going on within our minds. It what you 'hear' to listen 'to'

--what you would choose to hear?

If not, you can actually tell or demand of your mind to get those thoughts

'out' of your mind.

Those unwanted thoughts (if that is what they are) will keep trying to come

back in, and they are very devious. It takes practice to 'chase' bad

thoughts away. We have somehow learned to 'listen' to everything, without

realizing that we have CHOICE!

After learning to exercise this, and constant practice, I would choose to NOT

listen to anything, --if I could. It was so peaceful. I found an almost

sacred, silent place, that brought me closer to my 'life-sourse'. (my God

within us)

I have learned to 'be there' often, and after realizing a question I need

answers to, and being in 'no thought' as stated in the emails, I will 'hear'

the answers, while in 'no thought', --my sacred place. I have heard one word

that I do not know, or never heard. I hear it 3 times, and then believe it

must mean something. Then I look it up in the old dictionaries. example: as

an employee of a nuclear power plant and the issues presented during that

time, I asked, and received " scrutaneousness " . Look it up.

It held many answers for my situation at that time.

I personally believe, or 'know' inwardly that this 'sacred place' is the

silver or gold 'thread' that connects us to our God. It is an awesome

experience. When I get too busy or stressed (I know it well) I have to get

away by myself, and I just 'BLOW DOWN " , again and again, until I blow down

the last need time, completely, when my entire 'body finally just gives in',

as we are 'spiritual beings, and too often forget it. We can find our

'center' our source, our God within. as we learn to 'connect our own silver

or gold threads to that powerful 'source', --God.

It is a 'place' I crave, and I must stay at least half-way there, Or I would

be consumed by societal pressures. I can no longer live, as I did before. I

have searched, and I have found that 'Special place' that gives me much more

than peace.

In my own work, I ask the horse to join me, as a partner --'to the source',

and magic seems to just happen. The horse, and I believe other animals as

well, --know 'that special place', and that is where the true communication

happens.

Unfortunately, the human mind is overwhelmed with daily duties and social

influence. It is a real chore to slow people down, so they finally

'sensitize', --to feel with their 'spirit' and not their physical or

emotional being.

We connect people to their 'source' by knowing the natural horse. It's an

awesome journey to inner well-being, and empowerment.

I hear many things that people 'label' as their own 'techniques'. Really,

that is only the personal struggle that exists between the human 'ego' and

the divine.

Humans, --want to be their own God, and that to me, is just ego. That is why

so many people are still struggling. They have not surrendered their ego, to

the All Powerful. Their egos are 'stuffed with pride, and they just won't

'let go'...

It can be personally offensive, to even think that the individual, is not,

and can not be in total control of their own being. The struggles are all

consuming for many.

'Non-Thought' is where it all happens, --not in our attempts to explain

everything, as in scienticic studies etc.. They do not have all of the

answers, We can not the 'spirit' --or thought. I have tried to help explain

why. Hope this helps. Comments appreciated. Rose

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thankyou Rose for starting off my morning in such a wonderful way. I really

appreciate the thoughts in your email - I have much to learn !

 

Thankyou

 

Glenda