Healers

[Guest guest]

Michael

 

Can you give me some insight into this term 'process'? I have worked out my

own sense of what it's about, but have never had anyone explain it to me.

 

Also, you mention 'forcing someone into their process' ... as an acupuncture

student who is considering taking a year out of the course in order to try

to have time/space available in which I might hopefully make a more fruitful

attempt to face/come to terms with/understand (whatever it takes!) the

recurrent bouts of extreme emotional pain which seem to keep erupting in my

life (with the help of my acupuncturist and body psychotherapist) ... any

tips on how I might 'progress'? (If you sense desperation here, you're not

far from the mark! ... I'm currently going thro yet another a rough patch).

I'd be tempted to get into Qi Gong but it seems to 'upset' me too much (I've

needed acup' treatment after sessions at college) ... yoga doesn't appeal

.... meditation might but I have no idea how/where to start out.

 

I am getting increasingly interested in training in various therapies but I

know I've got to be more stable myself before I can 'assist' (as you so

rightly put it) others...

 

thanks

 

Vicki

 

 

> David:

>

> I agree with you. Somehow referring to myself as a healer, or even

> having patients refer to me that way makes me very uncomfortable.

> Practitioners who refer to themselves in that manner strike me as

> arrogant, no matter how good they are.

>

> I see myself as a " practitioner " for most patients. They come to me

> with this or that complaint, I do a series of treatments and the

> symptoms go away, improve somewhat or don't improve. Occasionally,

> someone comes to me who is in a transitional or transformational

> process in their life. People who are facing a life-threatening

> illness or seriously debilitating condition or someone who is just

> looking for a higher level of wellness (sick and tired of being sick

> and tired). It is with these people that we have the privilege of

> facilitating their process. I believe it is of utmost importance that

> we keep in mind that we are just the assistant. It is THEIR process.

> We must not try to own or control it or allow them give us

> responsibility for it (which some will do). We also cannot force them

> into their process if they are not willing.

>

> I once worked with a heart surgeon who stopped doing heart surgery.

> His reason: he felt that all he was doing was giving people the

> energy and permission to go down the same road they on before, faster

> than they were previously going. By " healing them " in biomedical

> terms, he was diverting their attention from their process.

>

>

> Michael Buzye, L.Ac.

[Guest guest]

Vicki:

 

I like Joan Borysenko's exlaination in " Fire in the Soul " . She states

that we all have " dark nights of the soul " when we either get caught

and die or emerge with a higher level of consciousness.

 

When I say that you cannot force someone into their process, I mean

that true healing comes from within the patient. It can be coaxed,

but not forced (overpowered).

 

I really like the movie " My Life " with Michael Keaton. It has given

me insights into my own processes at times. I would suggest renting

the video and watching it. Even if you've seen it before, you will

have " new eyes " now.

 

As for timing a process (e.g. taking a year off of school), it might

take longer and it might not take that long. Use the resources you

have available and deal with your emotions as you feel comfortable.

You mentioned meditation, but that you didn't know where to start.

Just sit still for a while and see what comes up or talk to your

acupuncturist and explain that you have some emotional junk that

you'd like to explore.

 

Vicki, one thing is for certain. When you overcome this (and you

will), you will be a better practitioner than you would have been had

you not experienced it.

 

Good luck. This won't be fun, but you will grow.

 

Michael Buyze, L.Ac.

 

acupuncture, Vicki Martin <vicki@v...> wrote:

> Michael

>

> Can you give me some insight into this term 'process'? I have

worked out my

> own sense of what it's about, but have never had anyone explain it

to me.

>

> Also, you mention 'forcing someone into their process' ... as an

acupuncture

> student who is considering taking a year out of the course in order

to try

> to have time/space available in which I might hopefully make a more

fruitful

> attempt to face/come to terms with/understand (whatever it takes!)

the

> recurrent bouts of extreme emotional pain which seem to keep

erupting in my

> life (with the help of my acupuncturist and body

psychotherapist) ... any

> tips on how I might 'progress'? (If you sense desperation here,

you're not

> far from the mark! ... I'm currently going thro yet another a rough

patch).

> I'd be tempted to get into Qi Gong but it seems to 'upset' me too

much (I've

> needed acup' treatment after sessions at college) ... yoga doesn't

appeal

> ... meditation might but I have no idea how/where to start out.

>

> I am getting increasingly interested in training in various

therapies but I

> know I've got to be more stable myself before I can 'assist' (as

you so

> rightly put it) others...

>

> thanks

>

> Vicki

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/02 3:37:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mbuyze writes:

 

 

>

> As for timing a process (e.g. taking a year off of school), it might

> take longer and it might not take that long. Use the resources you

> have available and deal with your emotions as you feel comfortable.

> You mentioned meditation, but that you didn't know where to start.

> Just sit still for a while and see what comes up or talk to your

> acupuncturist and explain that you have some emotional junk that

> you'd like to explore.

>

> Vicki, one thing is for certain. When you overcome this (and you

> will), you will be a better practitioner than you would have been had

> you not experienced it.

>

> Good luck. This won't be fun, but you will grow.

>

 

Dear Vicki,

 

For what it is worth I second all of this!! It's great advice!!!!

 

Best Wishes,

 

Bobbi Aqua, Lic. Ac.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Although there are many healers doing similar work as me, I wonder

how many would waive their fee if a person couldn't pay. I also

wonder how many would be happy to know there are others doing similar

work, and don't see the others as competition, but as part of a

healing cooperative. Are they genuinely concerned with their

client's wellbeing, or just exploiting and making money? How big are

their egos?

When egos get in the way, we lose sight of our main goal of

healing. I wonder how many guarentee their services, or would return

at least some payment to dissatisfied customers. How many think

their techniques are the best and only right ways?

There are far too many for me to research and test, so I need your

help.

Would you be willing to ask some questions of them and share them

with me? I think people should ask them anyway, to help them find

the best person for their needs. My questions are on file and being

edited; they shall be available soon for anyone who wants them. If

there are no standard guidlines for healers, for example, an

intuitive working independently, how would someone know if they're

competent? Questions specifically designed to help the client would

be of some assistance, I believe, and perhaps you could add your own

to that list.

Healers, guides, counselors, and similar practitioners are among a

great treasure chest of gifted people who tap into their abilities

and reach out to others. Not all have the same motives. Healing is

a gift, to the one offering, as well as to those recieving. Often

they keep our confidence and trust. Seeking such a person should be

seriously considered. As with anyone who attends to our needs, we

hope to find someone qualified and competent. Whether this person is

licensed, formally trained, intuitive or some combination of these,

they are all valid and effective in their own way. If an intuitive

offers free services, would you consider it? Would you wonder why

they're free? Are those educated more qualified by virtue of their

training? In some areas they are and I'd gladly referr someone to

them. There are many who also use their intuition knowingly, and

blend it with their formal learning.

I understand why those with licenses and degrees charge, as well

as those with no formal training. I truly believe we can all work

together, the intuitive alongside the educated. How important are

these things to you?

In my life, both have been valuable to me personally. I hope

whoever you choose is compent and qualified to help you, regardless

of training or lack of it. As an intuitive, I've helped many

people. This doesn't mean I'm against education. My health

prevented me from going to school or work, though I did honestly

try. Now with the internet, I could do both, if I were sure of

finding credible schools and workplaces.

Thank you for considering these words.

 

Sincerely, Silver

[Guest guest]

Becky wrote:

 

> And never, ever cry in front of a modern dr. They have many patients,

> and must maintain some sense of distance between dr and patient (I

> understand this). He immediately physically distanced himself by

> moving back and said right away that maybe I should see someone about

> my emotions. Now as I said, this dr was nice enough, and I am not

> complaining about him in particular. I appreciate him. This is

> simply how it has been for me for almost 2 years now!! I've been told

> my perceptions are off .... that I (personally) am an anomaly .... ETC.

>

> People generally wait until things escalate out of control before

> the 'gestapo' comes in ... that's how it is all around me ... with

> people's health, the invironment, everything people touch. things are

> let to get out of hand, and then comes the ax.

>

> I don't want to lose any more body parts! At least no one will take

> away my misery! The misery is MINE. I earned it, I own it and I'll

> cry if I want to !!!!! just not in front of any dr.

>

> B

 

 

Becky,

 

I totally understand where you are coming from . . . sometimes I think

doctors should be trained on communication skills. But then too,

Western MDs generally deal with life and death matters with no practical

life experience. You are nearly 30 when you begin a practice and all

that you have done is go to school up to that point. Their reality is

very insulated from that of most people.

 

Then there is this attitude that they are some sort of higher life

form. I had always preferred nurse practitioners because they seem to

communicate better and I thought that translated into better care. Your

body and health is a very personal and intimate thing. The doctor

should not be THAT distant. Your body just becomes this thing, they

operate on 'it' and elicit a response. They feed 'it' with medicine and

elicit another response. They would prefer to read lab tests than

listen to you. If you look at the body in this dehumanizing way it is

hard to imagine that how they would behave any better.

 

When I worked on the domestic violence hotline, I received a number of

calls from people who were distressed about health conditions. More

often than not the doctor didn't know what was going on or just wasn't

communicationg with the patient. I spoke to this one woman for nearly

an hour about pain she was having in her groin area. She had just

gotten over a bout of cancer and it seemed like one thing after another

was going wrong. Towards the end of the conversation she kept

describing what seemed to be a BOIL of all things.

 

Her doctors told her it was some sort of cyst on a gland or something.

They kept poking and prodding her and taking tests and all the while her

anxiety is increasing. After what she had been through, anxiety was a

perfectly logical response. And she was well insured. It seems like

patients on both ends of the spectrum are treated very poorly. I am

reading the information on Meniere's disease and it sounds like

something that my aunt has who has no insurance. The doctors she saw in

the emergency room were so rude to her. To this day I don't think she

knows there is a name for this.

 

Ultimately, I don't think it matters if you cry in front of the doctor.

It not really you with the problem.

[Guest guest]

Becky <bsalibrici> wrote:

> I am finding that most modern doctors are not really healers.

 

This depends on what one would call a " healer " .

 

The only one who can heal you is your own body.

Everyone else is a consultant to that process.

 

We see consultants (anyone in the medical profession,

Western or Eastern) because our imbalances can walk

us right into deeper trouble.

 

Western medicine tends to treat symptoms of imbalances

without addressing the etiology of the adventure.

 

Many times this amounts to keeping the body alive long

enough that its natural healing ability can take over.

 

There is nothing wrong with emergency medicine but we

shouldn't depend on it as our sole method of maintaining

homeostasis.

 

Eastern traditions are best used before the imbalances

manifest into emotional or physical phenomena.

 

The assumption far too often in Western culture is that

the patient will not change their lifestyle so things must

be accommodated to that health distroying/symptom

producing lifestyle.

 

If some food makes a person ill there are pills that will sedate

the symptoms of illness so they can continue to eat that food.

Rather that getting the rest one needs, they can take chemicals

that sedate the symptoms of fatigue.

 

People on a whole tend not to accept ill health as disease

UNTIL it presents a symptom that is inconveniencing.

 

When that happens its generally a " fix me so I can get back

to work " kind of thing.

 

We're all guilty of this to some degree.

We all have our priorities.

 

Penel