Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Thank you for the response and the link. I first learned of NLP around 1985, a week after reading a book on ninjutsu mind control by Ashida Kim. I saw a poster on a Berkeley board with the same diagram of consciousness modalities I'd seen in Kim's book. I love synchronicity! Anyway, I attended the seminar and began reading up on NLP from there. My interest in consciousness goes back to the 60's when I studied as much about various esoteric traditions as I could find. Eventually I discovered the work of Max Freedom Long on Huna, and that was what really got me going. My late Tai Chi teacher came from a Kahuna family, so we bonded through that and spent a lot of time talking about consciousness. His background included not only his family traditions and some of the best martial arts Hawaii had to offer, but time in a Jesuit seminary. It's my opinion that there is really little new under the sun, just a resynthesis of old wisdom. What is different now is the speed and scope of mass communication, which has brought such things out into the open. Jeff Finder, MA > We have followed different routes but have ended up in similar > places. You might be interested in the Website my co-author and I > developed: > > http://www.scs-enterprises.com > > I've been studying Uechi-Ryu Okinawan Karate-Do for almost 30 > years at this point. Although I've been using hypnosis since high > school, in some ways karate was my official introduction to energy > work. > > ______________________________ > Joel P. Bowman, Ph.D. > Subtle Communication Systems > Voice: 269-267-1419 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 can someone explain to me why my accupunturist is telling me that she is no longer going to accept medical insurance since the medical insurance no longer pays her enough to make it worth it - something about the insurance companies only paying for her to put the needle in and then take it out... Thanks! Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 > can someone explain to me why my accupunturist is > telling me that she is no longer going to accept medical > insurance since the medical insurance no longer pays > her enough to make it worth it - something about the > insurance companies only paying for her to put the > needle in and then take it out... Hi Laura, They were discussing this on a " for acupuncturist " list I'm on. Since the new year some insurance companies in some states have decided an office visit for acupuncture is worth $17.50 That isn't enough to pay office rent, utilities, book keeping, marketing expences et cetera. I could make that minus taxes working at the post office. Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Could you direct me to the " For Acupuncturists " list please? I'm an L.Ac. in the US. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 In Peoria Arizona: Jill O'Brien @ 623-033-1763 does great work and has an entire weight loss protocol. Amy Fleetman - <Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:15 AM Digest Number 1289 There are 16 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Nat'l healthcare - Not a consensus + politics acuman1 2. Re: Announcing A New Online Journal thechidoctor 3. Re: Vasectomy/Natural Birth Control " Greg A. Livingston " <drlivingston 4. Re: looking for referral in Phoenix Colorado Healthcare Associates <yorkstreet.clinic 5. RE: looking for referral in Phoenix " Christopher Vedeler L.Ac. " <ckvedeler 6. RE: Vasectomy/Natural Birth Control " Christopher Vedeler L.Ac. " <ckvedeler 7. Re: European and American herbs in Colorado Healthcare Associates <yorkstreet.clinic 8. Re: Vasectomy/Natural Birth Control " Julie Ormonde, L.Ac. " <cariadanam 9. Re Vasectomy " mjmnh " <mjmnh 10. Re: Announcing A New Online Journal " " < 11. House Calls / Chinese Herbs " elieg1969 " <elieg1969 12. RE: Re: Announcing A New Online Journal " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto 13. Re: House Calls / Chinese Herbs " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist 14. RE: House Calls / Chinese Herbs " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto 15. RE: House Calls / Chinese Herbs " Christopher Vedeler L.Ac. " <ckvedeler 16. RE: House Calls / Chinese Herbs mmilotay ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Mon, 6 Feb 2006 17:17:04 EST acuman1 Re: Nat'l healthcare - Not a consensus + politics Perhaps a government program providing a $5,000 or $10,000 deductable universally, with employers taking up the slack might provide the best of both plans. That is giving people choice for Health Care and recognizing its costs, while providing a safety net for those who incur extreme illness or injury. Who knows. We may end up seeing physicians develop an impression of doctors working for patients and not visa versa. David Molony In a message dated 2/4/06 9:19:08 PM, naturaldoc1 writes: > Wow, where to start? > > I will keep it simple. The issue of privatization of today's healthcare > has > dramatically killed healthcare in America. In my state, the attorney > general has issued a report that HMO's have almost 20% adminstrative > overhead (massages, exec lunches, golf trips ,etc) while Medicare is about > 2-3%. I would think you would be upset with the spending of your insurance > dollars on these items with no accountability. > > America spends the most on healthcare and has found itself at 27th place > in > actual quality of care, definitely a good value. (Are you aware that we > are > the only industrialized nation of the top 10 that has no form of universal > healthcare coverage?) This is not reasurring if you are an economist or > want > your money's worth. Getting accurate info is the first place to start. > Maybe you can share with us where you think the healthcare competition is > going to come from? Some might think alternative medicine but I think not. > We are currently being squeezed as insurance premiums, copays etc escalate > and so goes the out-of-pocket money for our services, remember all that > money in the JAMA report years ago. This issue is one of professional > preservation and that we need to deal with collectively, it is not an > option. By the way, the single payer legislation is also for keeping govt > out of your medical decisions, something the insurance companies do not > want > to give up. > > There has never been any provision to force a pracitioner to accept > Medicare > or that we all have to create the same rates. The beauty behind this is > that many insurance companies currently look at Medicare to decide if this > is reimbursable. Passage of this one piece of legislation can open up > opportunities for the needy to get access to our services along with > greater > inclusion in the healthcare system. This last point is important if we are > to continue to grow and contribute in a larger, meaningful way. I feel for > your frustration with your state association as we have lost ours, here, > to > the chiro's. > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > > > > > > " J. Lynn Detamore " <lynndetamore > >Chinese Medicine > >Chinese Medicine > >Nat'l healthcare - Not a consensus + politics > >Sat, 4 Feb 2006 16:31:25 -0800 (PST) > > > >mike bower: One of the largest problems in > >healthcare today is that of the privatization of > >such. > > > >You may see this as a problem. The older I get, > >the more I know of the world around me, the less > >I trust the government with my money. For folks > >who want to leave all of their healthcare to the > >guv, there is the option of moving to a country > >that s to that philosophy. > > > >Seriously, I get tired of defending myself - no, > >I do not mean this in any argumentative sense - > >against assumptions that since I practice > >Alternative Medicine, I must be for socialized, > >government-ized, aka, national/ single-payor > >system, medicine. No, no, no, I do NOT want a > >single-payor system. I want competition, and the > >government as far away from me and my patients > >and my own providers as it can run. Medicare and > >Medicaid are fine, but yes, the reimbursement > >will always be poor. Ever look at reimbursement > >figures? Proportionate to COL, Cost of Living, > >reimbursement declines over time. > > > >Okay, now this is turning into a long post. You > >can stop now if you want. > > > >Unfortunately, many of our profession who are for > >single-payor systems are naive about voting and > >legislation in the states, and anywhere, really. > >When you have a referrendum in front of you to > >establish a single-payor system, you have to read > >the piece very carefully. It may be a terrible > >piece of legislation, even if the original > >concept is exactly what you want. When you vote > >for a given initiative, you are voting in the > >details of that initiative. > > > >I hope this does not sound simplistic. I speak > >from experience with a state association that > >endorsed such an initiative. It was obvious to me > >that many of us, in spite of good education, > >seemed to think that you can vote in a concept, > >and the dirty little details will work themselves > >out once the measure is passed. No, it does not > >work that way. This particular initiative, > >heretofor Measure 32 - not the real number, but > >locals will know this, was very badly written. > >Our state operates on a fiscal biennium, but the > >measure was written to be retroactive 10 months > >the beginning of the calender year. Ouch, > >bookkeeping H -E- double toothipix. How about > >some logical approach, e.g., making the new > >legislation effective the beginning of the next > >biennium, so there would have been time to design > >the accounting. > > > >This legislation also had residency requirements > >that amounted to almost no residency requirement > >- instant, I'm eligible for this total > >state-generated healthcare b/c I decided 5 > >minutes after I entered the state that I am going > >to stay here till I die - or until another state > >has a better package deal. > > > >Let me delineate several notes about my state > >association's choice to be only primary > >professional's association to have endorsed that > >particular measure. > >1. The next spring, at the annual meeting, the > >association prez said, and I quote, " In the > >future, we want to look at these pieces very > >carefully. " She went on to say that, " ...at the > >last minute... " the board had discovered some > >details about Measure 32 with which said board > >was not pleased. " What were those details? " I > >politely asked from the floor. " We don't really > >have time to go into those in this venue. " > >Translated in my mind: We have to reveal what > >mistakes we believe we made to the general > >membership. > >2. Approximately 1/2 of our dues that previous > >election year went to pay the lobbyist to work on > >behalf of this measure's passage. > > > >...Most of the time since Measure 32, I have not > >paid dues to my state aom association. I figure, > >I should rejoin, I could so some writing and > >publishing, just as certain colleagues have > >recommended. But, I have not gotten past the > >sense of being an outsider-CM practitioner. I am > >fiscally conservative, but politically, I am > >really out of bounds. Oh no, I am not one of > >those Ditto Heads, even worse, I listen to Bill > >Oreilly, and I keep terrible bedtimes b/c - gasp > >- I am up listening to Coast to Coast at night. > >BTW, I do not have TV hooked up, and I listen to > >lots of talk radio. I am pro-Choice, Completely > >anti-death penalty, and am anti-Assisted Suicide. > >I would have a handgun and a Conceal-Carry permit > >now if I already had the budget. I am a Christian > >- I have run into problems with that on a > >closely-related , but I am not - gasp > >again, heterosexual. So, I do not fit > >conservative pigeonholes, and I do not fit > >liberal pigenholes - where I find most of my > >colleagues, it seems. > > > >I am almost 10 yrs into this profession. I love > >it, it works, I am so glad I do this. One goal > >this year is to Work More and spend less time at > >the Night Job. I love these forums, even though I > >can not keep up with All of the e-mails, I am so > >glad they are here. I think of myself as a peon > >here, usually reading and soaking up the sharing > >of professionals with much more experience than I > >have. Yet, I think, I would do anything to get > >into teaching part-time b/c I would really like > >to share some of what I have already learned. > >When I guest-lectured at Clinic Orientations, > >very early in my career, the instructor really > >liked what I said. She asked for me again in the > >future. > > > >I promise not to be so verbiose in the future! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, > http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > necessary. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Amy Fleetman wrote: > In Peoria Arizona: > > Jill O'Brien @ 623-033-1763 does great work and has an entire weight loss > protocol. > Amy Fleetman Hi Amy (and all digest users, this happens every now and then)! Please trim your replys, re-sending the whole digest takes forever on some slow connections. If you don't know how to trim a post get someone to show you. Thanks. Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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