Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 > " busy alchimiste " <busyalchimiste > Western traditions, chinese herbs > > In most cases, his assessment of their properties is more or less > the same as in general spagyric traditions. I have worked a fair number of > chinese herbs in a spagyric fashion. They respond much the same as their > western cousins with similar properties. As an example, Coptis sinensis > extracts more or less the same way as goldenseal. > Could you please clarify exactly what you mean by, " general spagyric traditions. " > The quality of western herbal tinctures is gerally so-so. For example, > echinacea's optimal extraction menstrum is 70% alcohol. Anything else > results in leaving most of the phytochemicals in the marc. This is simply false! There are many companies that produce excellent products. What are you basing this statement on? Nearly all the studies on echinacea (until the last couple of years) have been on juiced leaves and/or flower heads. The use of 70% is apropriate for dried herb but the fresh herb is best and that is done with 95% alcohol, ending with about 75%. The seeds are processed dried and 70% is best for them. BTW: The chemicals in echinacea and astragalus are NOT particularly " similar " as Dr. Weil stated. Echinacea has isobuminlides (sp?), which stimulate the immune system and astragalus has polysaccarides which stimulate and supplement the immune system. Echinacea has no tradition of using it long term, Astragalus does! Perhaps the Native Americans didn't pick up on using echinacea long term, but neither did the Physiomedicalists, Eclectics, or anyone since then. It has only been since clinical evidence of it stimulating the immune system has come to the forefront. I have discussed this topic with many Western herbalists who have used this herb for 10-35 years and nearly all of them agree that the herb should only be used short term. The useful > goldenseal coumpounds are not water soluble from the root. Also false! Goldenseal has berberine in it, which is the same compound found in coptis. We all know it is water soluable. Hydrastine, the main compound that separate Goldenseal from Coptis is only slightly water soluable, so alcohol is best. However, Goldenseal was used for millenia by the Native Americans without the use of alcohol. They generally used either direct application or a draft but decoctions were also used. I could go on > but my feeling is that Dr. Holmes books are well written and the discomfort > with them stems from something else than the " properties " of the herbs > described. What do you speculate the, " discomfort with them stems from something else " is? I love lively debate :-} thomas Chinese Herbology and Acupuncture acupuncture and herbal information " Knowing nothing, you will be aware of everything. " Lao Tzu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 > Message: 5 > Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:22:16 -0700 > " Colleen Morris " <colleen > Thomas, > > Here is an interesting abstract on the in vitro use of Huang Qi on > infected amnion cells. Have you or anyone else on the list tried using > Huang Qi for infection during pregnancy? No, I haven't. The abstract is interesting. I would like to see the entire article. I tend to stay with TCM as a treatment paradigm so would not think to use Huang Qi for an infection unless there was qi vacuity. Chinese Herbology and Acupuncture acupuncture and herbal information " Knowing nothing, you will be aware of everything. " Lao Tzu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 In vitro studies don't always translate into in vivo effects. On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 07:42 AM, wrote: > >> Message: 5 >> Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:22:16 -0700 >> " Colleen Morris " <colleen > >> Thomas, >> >> Here is an interesting abstract on the in vitro use of Huang Qi on >> infected amnion cells. Have you or anyone else on the list tried >> using >> Huang Qi for infection during pregnancy? > > No, I haven't. The abstract is interesting. I would like to see the > entire > article. I tend to stay with TCM as a treatment paradigm so would not > think > to use Huang Qi for an infection unless there was qi vacuity. > > > > Chinese Herbology and Acupuncture > acupuncture and herbal information > > > > " Knowing nothing, you will be aware of everything. " > Lao Tzu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 This list is for discussion of the body mind connection. Hello These high pitched frequencies are neuronal noise. Regards Rajeev Upadhye --------------------------- www.yuyutsu.biz -------------------------- - Saturday, January 06, 2007 4:02 PM Digest Number 1599 This list is for discussion of the body mind connection. Messages In This Digest (1 Message) 1. Re: Has anyone experienced very high pitched frequencies Catherine View All Topics | Create New Topic Message 1. Re: Has anyone experienced very high pitched frequencies Posted by: " Catherine " trina83 lightning_chaser83 Fri Jan 5, 2007 5:31 am (PST) Hi, my name is Trina, I'm a member to this group but usually just read the posts and don't write any. I've had a similar thing happen to me, not the high pitched frequency in my head but I can relate to your description of resonance and being separate from others. Often I will be talking or in a group of people and suddenly feel disconnected from everything. It used to scare me but now I just go with it until it stops. I can still interact with people but feel like I am on a different plane or dimension. My body feels almost transparent, as if I could walk out of it. I am able to reconnect with myself if I touch other people (I'm a nurse so that's easy!). I do think this and what you are saying are a type of out of body experience. But I also think that these experiences have to do with personal growth. Usually happens to me when I am learning some kind of life lesson. I have always felt I was on a different universal plane from most people too, ever since I was about 14 yrs. old. Anyone else have an opinion? Trina > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity a.. 3 New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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