Re:Need advice to breathe properly

[Guest guest]

To be honest my advice would be 'talk to Trina, she's

learned the hard way and really knows what she's

talking about'.

 

If you're looking to explore breathing further then

have you looked at pranayame?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pranayama

http://www.pranayama.org/

 

 

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Hi to all,

I wrote in about the dizziness and hyperventilation over a weeks ago.

The dizziness got worse over the past week, and since I work in a

hospital, I began checking my blood pressure. It was staying in the

140/90 range which is not normal for me. By the end of the week I was

up in the 150/90 to 150/100 range. I began to get worried because I

was doing my best to relax but the more I tried to do regular activity

the worse I felt. I am a small woman, only weigh about 128 pounds, and

have always been healthy.

 

I ended up in my doctor's office and am on atenolol once a day and the

pressure went back into the 120/80 range which is my baseline. He said

I have an anxiety disorder resulting from the stress I have been under.

 

I hate taking medication and am angry at myself for not being able to

control this on my own. I always prided myself on being able to relax

and not get overwhelmed.

 

Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse but

worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart enough to

know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I am

planning on joining a yoga group again.

 

Thanks, Trina

[Guest guest]

Trina...

 

> Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse but

> worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart enough to

> know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I am

> planning on joining a yoga group again.

 

If you are open to using a hypnosis CD, you can find one at

www.scs-matters.com/products.shtml

 

I suspect that others have similar products available.

 

If you have questions about hypnosis or the CD, please let me know.

 

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[Guest guest]

yoga is the best way to go it helps with ur breathing stress levels and

relaxtion also try peppermint tea if u have a sore tummy or just to help u

through the day and chamolie at bed time my wee sister is a nurse and i know wot

a stressful job it is just ry relax and take good care of urself love chrisie

 

 

 

Joel P. Bowman <joel

 

Sunday, 12 August, 2007 6:33:54 PM

Re: Re:Need advice to breathe properly

 

 

Trina...

 

> Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse but

> worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart enough to

> know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I am

> planning on joining a yoga group again.

 

If you are open to using a hypnosis CD, you can find one at

www.scs-matters.com/products.shtml

 

I suspect that others have similar products available.

 

If you have questions about hypnosis or the CD, please let me know.

 

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ty

i know the hpertension cuauses: there are different cuause to make

hypertension upper. 1-jypersctivity sorenal gland that release adrenal

2-fear or pasychologid problem stimaute repector adrenll

3-food,such as cholestrol and sault these cuase to incresae bp

i think by diedt and exercse could be bring down bp

 

 

" Joel P. Bowman " <joel wrote:

Trina...

 

> Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse but

> worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart enough to

> know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I am

> planning on joining a yoga group again.

 

If you are open to using a hypnosis CD, you can find one at

www.scs-matters.com/products.shtml

 

I suspect that others have similar products available.

 

If you have questions about hypnosis or the CD, please let me know.

 

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Hello Trina,

 

I understand your problems with high pressure and I was in a similar

situation about 5 years ago. I returned to my practice of meditation

and found that this has resulted in my BP now returning to normal. I

have no stress and anxiety. I recommend and teach meditation practice

at every opportunity and also encourage people to investigate the

principles of ZEN as I believe that this understanding is a healthy

philosophy and is often used within mental health treatments. If you

wish I can be of more help to you.

 

Tony at ZenForHealth

 

, " lightning_chaser83 " <trina83

wrote:

>

> Hi to all,

> I wrote in about the dizziness and hyperventilation over a weeks

ago.

> The dizziness got worse over the past week, and since I work in a

> hospital, I began checking my blood pressure. It was staying in

the

> 140/90 range which is not normal for me. By the end of the week I

was

> up in the 150/90 to 150/100 range. I began to get worried because

I

> was doing my best to relax but the more I tried to do regular

activity

> the worse I felt. I am a small woman, only weigh about 128 pounds,

and

> have always been healthy.

>

> I ended up in my doctor's office and am on atenolol once a day and

the

> pressure went back into the 120/80 range which is my baseline. He

said

> I have an anxiety disorder resulting from the stress I have been

under.

>

> I hate taking medication and am angry at myself for not being able

to

> control this on my own. I always prided myself on being able to

relax

> and not get overwhelmed.

>

> Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse but

> worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart

enough to

> know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I

am

> planning on joining a yoga group again.

>

> Thanks, Trina

>

[Guest guest]

HiHi

Hi Trina,

 

It sounds like you are doing all the right things. I do think that going

off birth control pills can alter your stress level immensely. It may take

some time for your body to adjust. If things don't start to come to balance,

eventually you may want to ask the doctor to check your hormones through a

monthly saliva test to make sure that everything is in check.

 

Best of luck,

 

Sharon Hartnett

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

Yes, I would love additional help. The beta blocker that the doctor put me on

has really helped, although honestly, I only took half the dose he prescribed,

which worked effectively. I do regularly meditate and do relaxation exercises.

However, my problem started two weeks ago when I went off my birth control pills

permanently. My doctor said that with my age of 43, going off hormones on top

of the stress I was already feeling, caused the high blood pressures. My

anxiety got the best of me. I have some subliminal CD's that I use at home to

relax with.

Please feel free to email me, I would love some advice, and also please explain

how to practice Zen to me.

Trina

 

-

zenforhealth

Monday, August 13, 2007 2:20 AM

Re:Need advice to breathe properly

 

 

Hello Trina,

 

I understand your problems with high pressure and I was in a similar

situation about 5 years ago. I returned to my practice of meditation

and found that this has resulted in my BP now returning to normal. I

have no stress and anxiety. I recommend and teach meditation practice

at every opportunity and also encourage people to investigate the

principles of ZEN as I believe that this understanding is a healthy

philosophy and is often used within mental health treatments. If you

wish I can be of more help to you.

 

Tony at ZenForHealth

 

, " lightning_chaser83 " <trina83

wrote:

>

> Hi to all,

> I wrote in about the dizziness and hyperventilation over a weeks

ago.

> The dizziness got worse over the past week, and since I work in a

> hospital, I began checking my blood pressure. It was staying in

the

> 140/90 range which is not normal for me. By the end of the week I

was

> up in the 150/90 to 150/100 range. I began to get worried because

I

> was doing my best to relax but the more I tried to do regular

activity

> the worse I felt. I am a small woman, only weigh about 128 pounds,

and

> have always been healthy.

>

> I ended up in my doctor's office and am on atenolol once a day and

the

> pressure went back into the 120/80 range which is my baseline. He

said

> I have an anxiety disorder resulting from the stress I have been

under.

>

> I hate taking medication and am angry at myself for not being able

to

> control this on my own. I always prided myself on being able to

relax

> and not get overwhelmed.

>

> Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse but

> worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart

enough to

> know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I

am

> planning on joining a yoga group again.

>

> Thanks, Trina

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

i got your email that was so nice to hear you

yes anit birth contorl those function rather is convert or against with anti

blocker most of the retention water of salt in this way they absorb h2o an Na

.. these increase the volum blood and incresast bp

your doctore said right

the best thing is diet

excersise

vegetavble and bean

bring down cholesterl

avoid of use oil

have a nce day

do you have own email

 

 

Catherine <trina83 wrote:

Hi Tony,

Yes, I would love additional help. The beta blocker that the doctor put me on

has really helped, although honestly, I only took half the dose he prescribed,

which worked effectively. I do regularly meditate and do relaxation exercises.

However, my problem started two weeks ago when I went off my birth control pills

permanently. My doctor said that with my age of 43, going off hormones on top of

the stress I was already feeling, caused the high blood pressures. My anxiety

got the best of me. I have some subliminal CD's that I use at home to relax

with.

Please feel free to email me, I would love some advice, and also please explain

how to practice Zen to me.

Trina

 

-

zenforhealth

 

Monday, August 13, 2007 2:20 AM

Re:Need advice to breathe properly

 

Hello Trina,

 

I understand your problems with high pressure and I was in a similar

situation about 5 years ago. I returned to my practice of meditation

and found that this has resulted in my BP now returning to normal. I

have no stress and anxiety. I recommend and teach meditation practice

at every opportunity and also encourage people to investigate the

principles of ZEN as I believe that this understanding is a healthy

philosophy and is often used within mental health treatments. If you

wish I can be of more help to you.

 

Tony at ZenForHealth

 

, " lightning_chaser83 " <trina83

wrote:

>

> Hi to all,

> I wrote in about the dizziness and hyperventilation over a weeks

ago.

> The dizziness got worse over the past week, and since I work in a

> hospital, I began checking my blood pressure. It was staying in

the

> 140/90 range which is not normal for me. By the end of the week I

was

> up in the 150/90 to 150/100 range. I began to get worried because

I

> was doing my best to relax but the more I tried to do regular

activity

> the worse I felt. I am a small woman, only weigh about 128 pounds,

and

> have always been healthy.

>

> I ended up in my doctor's office and am on atenolol once a day and

the

> pressure went back into the 120/80 range which is my baseline. He

said

> I have an anxiety disorder resulting from the stress I have been

under.

>

> I hate taking medication and am angry at myself for not being able

to

> control this on my own. I always prided myself on being able to

relax

> and not get overwhelmed.

>

> Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse but

> worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart

enough to

> know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I

am

> planning on joining a yoga group again.

>

> Thanks, Trina

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Trina,

 

Thank you for replying to my email and I am very pleased to be able

to offer you my suggestions. I will also email you an invitation to

my Meditation Blog and this mainly focuses on two things which might

be helpful to you. The first is Zen which is the way that we look at

the world and ourselves and also meditation practice and the second

in the practice of Mindfulness.

 

I believe that most stress, anxiety, tension, nervousness, depression

and even aggressive behaviour comes from or is made worse by our

thought patterns-our thinking and our dwelling on problems and

worries. So the practice of mindfulness can help this greatly. With

the combination of mindfulness and meditation practice either Zen or

what I call Metta or Loving/Kindness can of course help to calm the

agitated mind.

 

My Blog site has a lot of information in simple terms about these

two. My recommendation to you is to look at some of the Mindfulness

Exercises that I have recommended and try these each day. Many times

throughout the day. The other most important thing to try and do all

the time is to concentrate on your breathing (as you would when you

are doing meditation). One of the things that you need to do is to

relax your body. No matter how hard you try you will never achieve

total relaxation and in fact the secret is not to try at all. The

simple method I use is this:

 

I do not let my mind wander - I focus on my breathing and as I

breathe in I tell myself the word " calm " and make this word last the

full inward breath and then as I breathe out I tell myself the

word " relax " and I continue this for as long as I can or have free

time. Please look at the Blog site and there is much information

there for you. Trina-can I ask you a question please? What form of

meditation practice do you follow?

 

kind regards to you

 

ZenForHealth

 

 

, Ramy Ramin <ramyramin wrote:

>

> i got your email that was so nice to hear you

> yes anit birth contorl those function rather is convert or

against with anti blocker most of the retention water of salt in

this way they absorb h2o an Na . these increase the volum blood and

incresast bp

> your doctore said right

> the best thing is diet

> excersise

> vegetavble and bean

> bring down cholesterl

> avoid of use oil

> have a nce day

> do you have own email

>

>

> Catherine <trina83 wrote:

> Hi Tony,

> Yes, I would love additional help. The beta blocker that the doctor

put me on has really helped, although honestly, I only took half the

dose he prescribed, which worked effectively. I do regularly meditate

and do relaxation exercises. However, my problem started two weeks

ago when I went off my birth control pills permanently. My doctor

said that with my age of 43, going off hormones on top of the stress

I was already feeling, caused the high blood pressures. My anxiety

got the best of me. I have some subliminal CD's that I use at home to

relax with.

> Please feel free to email me, I would love some advice, and also

please explain how to practice Zen to me.

> Trina

>

> -

> zenforhealth

>

> Monday, August 13, 2007 2:20 AM

> Re:Need advice to breathe properly

>

> Hello Trina,

>

> I understand your problems with high pressure and I was in a

similar

> situation about 5 years ago. I returned to my practice of

meditation

> and found that this has resulted in my BP now returning to normal.

I

> have no stress and anxiety. I recommend and teach meditation

practice

> at every opportunity and also encourage people to investigate the

> principles of ZEN as I believe that this understanding is a healthy

> philosophy and is often used within mental health treatments. If

you

> wish I can be of more help to you.

>

> Tony at ZenForHealth

>

> , " lightning_chaser83 " <trina83@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi to all,

> > I wrote in about the dizziness and hyperventilation over a weeks

> ago.

> > The dizziness got worse over the past week, and since I work in a

> > hospital, I began checking my blood pressure. It was staying in

> the

> > 140/90 range which is not normal for me. By the end of the week I

> was

> > up in the 150/90 to 150/100 range. I began to get worried because

> I

> > was doing my best to relax but the more I tried to do regular

> activity

> > the worse I felt. I am a small woman, only weigh about 128

pounds,

> and

> > have always been healthy.

> >

> > I ended up in my doctor's office and am on atenolol once a day

and

> the

> > pressure went back into the 120/80 range which is my baseline. He

> said

> > I have an anxiety disorder resulting from the stress I have been

> under.

> >

> > I hate taking medication and am angry at myself for not being

able

> to

> > control this on my own. I always prided myself on being able to

> relax

> > and not get overwhelmed.

> >

> > Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse

but

> > worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart

> enough to

> > know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I

> am

> > planning on joining a yoga group again.

> >

> > Thanks, Trina

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was told by my medical doctor (who likes natural medicine) that we need

natural sodium for high blood pressure. He said to eat 3-5 stalks of celery a

day and to use natural Himilayan or pink or grey sea salt. This has worked for

me for the past year and I have not had to take meds. Also, I read the book

" Water & Salt the essence of life " by Barbara Hendel. Our bodies need REAL SALT

(not table salt that is full of chemicals) and good water!!! Try it and see if

it works for you.

Hope this helps, Marc

 

 

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Marc...

 

> Our bodies need REAL SALT (not table salt that is full of chemicals)

> and good water!!!

 

I'm wondering what is in table salt other than sodium and chloride....

 

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I agree, but with my high blood pressure, I am careful with the salt until it

returns to normal,

Trina

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Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:21 AM

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Marc...

 

> Our bodies need REAL SALT (not table salt that is full of chemicals)

> and good water!!!

 

I'm wondering what is in table salt other than sodium and chloride....

 

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[Guest guest]

Oops,

Hi Marc,

I missed this post,

I will check into this. Like I said, I have never had high blood pressure, only

when my anxiety gets out of control. I have never heard of taking sea salt.

Trina

-

mizz1

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:10 AM

Re: Re:Need advice to breathe properly

 

 

I was told by my medical doctor (who likes natural medicine) that we need

natural sodium for high blood pressure. He said to eat 3-5 stalks of celery a

day and to use natural Himilayan or pink or grey sea salt. This has worked for

me for the past year and I have not had to take meds. Also, I read the book

" Water & Salt the essence of life " by Barbara Hendel. Our bodies need REAL SALT

(not table salt that is full of chemicals) and good water!!! Try it and see if

it works for you.

Hope this helps, Marc

 

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-Dear All,

If we get an analog clock, one with hands, hour and minute. Just

start breathing and slow down to about ten breaths per minute.

''

or you can buy a machine called resperate for 300 dollars to do the

samt thing. Clocks are a lot cheaper.

Love and Light

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-- In , " lightning_chaser83 " <trina83

wrote:

>

> Hi to all,

> I wrote in about the dizziness and hyperventilation over a weeks

ago.

> The dizziness got worse over the past week, and since I work in a

> hospital, I began checking my blood pressure. It was .staying in

the

> 140/90 range which is not normal for me. By the end of the week I

was

> up in the 150/90 to 150/100 range. I began to get worried because

I

> was doing my best to relax but the more I tried to do regular

activity

> the worse I felt. I am a small woman, only weigh about 128 pounds,

and

> have always been healthy.

>

> I ended up in my doctor's office and am on atenolol once a day and

the

> pressure went back into the 120/80 range which is my baseline. He

said

> I have an anxiety disorder resulting from the stress I have been

under.

>

> I hate taking medication and am angry at myself for not being able

to

> control this on my own. I always prided myself on being able to

relax

> and not get overwhelmed.

>

> Any advice on how I can get myself back on track? I am a nurse but

> worry about putting chemicals in my body, although I am smart

enough to

> know that a blood pressure that high is not safe for me either. I

am

> planning on joining a yoga group again.

>

> Thanks, Trina

>

[Guest guest]

Hello there, my name is John

 

I am registered Nurse and I have been doing biofeedback for over 15

years, the Respirate is advertised a FDA approved (only) device for

controlling Bloop Pressure but the fact is not everyone responds to

it as advertised. My objective here is to give a partial explaination

why it doesn't.

 

There is the mechanical side to respiration rate and depth, and the

ventilation of gazes across a cell wall (Capillaries) as a result of

mechanical movement of the chest. I will be addressing mostly the

ventilation, and understand that this explaination is pretty crude or

rough.

 

If one's blood chemistry at the end of the breath where the CO2

(carbon dioxide) levels should be between 35 and 45 torr or mmHg...as

gases are measured in partial pressures, then the body's chemistry

for the transport of O2 would be attaching and detaching from the

hemoglobin, relatively well. However, most people are hypocapnic,

that means that they tend to blow off too much CO2 and this can have

both short term and long term consequenses, such as cognitive

impairement, emotional reactivity, physical impairements eg some

asthma attacks or even heart attacks without disease. Actually, when

it comes to physiology, metabolism is the dance that we all have to

do to stay well...and CO2 levels control how O2 (oxygen) binds to the

Hemoglobin. BTW 60% of all intercity ambulance calls are due to

symptomes due to hypocapnia or overbreathing and we usually have them

breathe into paper bags to increase the CO2. 3 minutes of

overbreathing or severe hypocapnia, can reduce the 02 level to the

brain and the heart by as much as 40%.

 

Hypocapnia is considered a functional disorder, since it is not

pathological, it is rarely dealt with or diagnosed in doctors offices.

 

That being said, when one has regulated the CO2 metabolism, the

increase Nitrous Oxide levels may cause vasodialation, and therefore

could decrease the Blood pressure. Hyperventilation or Hypocapnia has

been used in the past to create vasoconstriction in the brain surgery

but had to be stopped because it was too effective and they were

having difficulty to revasodialate. After one has learnt to stay in

the CO2 zone then one could learn to coordinate the Breathing and the

Heart Rhythm which is what the Respirate does and jump a critical

step which for a lot of people would not be so critical...yes one

could get a metronome and count every 5 seconds breathing in and

breathe out every 5 seconds, but breathing should be effortless thru

the mouth slowly, and eventually without having to think about it.

Which leads to HRV (Heart rate Variation) which the single most well

studied phenomena and indicator of health..so much so that Drug

Companies use this variable to indicate the efficacity of a drug...

 

This is the short of it....and is a lot more complex then this but

should give you enough of a clue...there are devices on the market

for measuring the ETC02 (end tidal CO2) levels and do require some

training and usually are expensive compared to the respirate. the

Nijmegen questionaire is a good place to start for evaluatting if one

seems overbreathing...and since Breathing for most part is a learnt

behavior it lends itself well, to reeducation.