Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 B1/Mg Deficiencies Cause TS Symptoms " Hypothesis: Vitamin B1 and/or Magnesium Deficiency Cause Symptoms Associated with Tourette's Syndrome in Children with Alcoholic Relatives " by Frances Jurnak I would like to comment on the role of diet in Tourette's syndrome. There are likely to be several causes of the symptoms of Tourette's Syndrome. A deficiency in vitamin B1 (thiamine) or Mg is probably one of the MAJOR causes, particularly in those cases in which there is a family history of ALCOHOLISM. B1 affects the proper metabolism of sugar/carbohydrates and some amino acids found in proteins. Vitamin B1 is also involved in the synthesis of neurotransmitters, particularly acetylcholine and GABA, which affect brain functions. Vitamin B1 (<400 mg/day) must always be administered with magnesium (Mg)(<400 mg/day), otherwise a high dose of B1 could deplete the body's Mg reserves and lead to death. There are a few reports of an adverse reaction to B1 at doses higher than 400 mg/day. In be effective in children, B1/Mg must be given thrice daily or with every meal, otherwise the B1/Mg is passed quickly into the urine. Studies in Germany have shown that ALL children require a much higher level of B1/Mg, particularly during the years of 2-5 and 7 to 10. Because these years correspond to the years in which the brain is most active in development, it would make sense that brain development must be accompanied by an increase in the components, including B1, necessary for neurochemical reactions. The need for B1 decreases with the onset of puberty, thus many children who are on the threshold of B1 deficiency before puberty will become symptom free after the onset of puberty. Other children are not so lucky because there is likely to be a genetic defect in a B1-utilizing enzyme in those families with a history of alcoholism, particularly if the family has a European heritage. B1/Mg deficiency can also be caused by a malabsorption of the vitamin, particularly in cases of a viral, bacterial or parasitic infection. B1/Mg deficiencies can also be found in children with carbohydrate-rich diets or in critically ill children who are unable to eat properly. Physicians, especially pediatricians, are no longer trained to recognize the clinical symptoms of vitamin B1/Mg deficiency. Symptoms of mild B1 deficiency include nausea, lack of appetite, irritability, depression, fatigue, lack of energy, lack of automatic reflexes 2-3 hours after a meal, and rage tantrums 4-6 hours after a meal. With prolonged B1 deficiency, the peripheral nervous system is affected, leading to mental confusion as well as to muscle coordination problems, particularly in the eyes and extremities. In children, these symptoms are displayed as visual processing learning disabilities, dyslexia, fine motor skill problems, inability to focus, excessive daydreaming, inability to notice fine details, clothing sensitivities (eg socks), numbness in hands/feet, and/or motor/vocal tics, particularly those involving the eyes/face. Most children do not exhibit all of the B1-deficient symptoms, thus it may be difficult to recognize. In some children, the aggregate symptoms may appear to be hypoglycemia, in layman's terms, but not in the strictest definition of the medical disorder. In families with a history of alcoholism, children often exhibit symptoms of ADHD (mixed inattentive and hyperactivity type), visual learning disabilities and, depending upon the severity of the B1/Mg deficiency, tics. The problems are likely due to a genetic defect in a metabolic process that utilizes vitamin B1. A B1/Mg deficiency may also be responsible for some cases of hyper-insulinism (a form of pre-diabetees) and for the hyperactive sugar effect seen in some children. If a low-carbohydrate diet ameliorates some behavioral problems, then a B1/Mg deficiency should be suspected. The metabolically active form of B1 is thiamine pyrophosphate (TPP). This involves a number of enzymes to absorb, transport and convert B1 into TPP. Mg and TPP are both essential for converting glucose into energy and into the neurotransmitters, acetylcholine and GABA. In glucose metabolism, TPP and Mg are the cofactors for two complex enzymes called pyruvate dehydrogenase and alpha-ketoglutarate dehydrogenase. Glucose is obtained by direct ingestion of sugar or by the metabolic breakdown of simple and complex carbohydrates, such as those found in grains. Glucose is the only form of energy used by the brain. If there is a B1 or Mg deficiency or a genetic defect in the TPP-dependent enzymes, the brain would not be able to synthesize the proper amounts of GABA or acetylcholine. Insufficient supply of acetylcholine is likely to cause a poor automatic reflex. This is usually accompanied by daydreaming. Moreover, the receptor for this neurotransmitter is the same one to which nicotine binds, causing tobacco addiction in these susceptible individuals. It is well established that moderate B1 deficiency causes Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome, particularly in a subpopulation of alcoholics of European heritage. In addition to the symptoms of B1 deficiency already mentioned, a more severe deficiency leads to ataxia (very poor muscle coordination), ophthalmoplegia (loss of eye coordination, nystagamus), and mental confusion. Autopsies of the brains of such individuals usually display lesions or soft spots in certain areas of the brain. No one has considered the possibility that prolonged, mild B1 deficiency may cause similar, but smaller brain lesions in children, which ultimately result in tics and the long-term neurological damage behind visual learning disabilities and inability to focus. In alcoholics, the Wernicke part of the syndrome is usually reversible with proper thiamine/Mg administration, but the Korsakoff part responsible for mental confusion (inability to focus) may not be completely reversible. In addition to the generation of energy, GABA and acetylcholine in glucose metabolism, TPP is also utilized by an enzyme called transketolase, This enzyme converts one of the products of glucose into ribose used in the synthesis of nucleic acid precursors and into NADPH used in fatty acid biosynthesis. Transketolase is particularly important because it forms the basis of the most sensitive clinical assay for measuring B1 deficiency in red blood cells. In addition to the enzymes involved in glucose metabolism, TPP is also used by a B1-dependent enzyme, called branched-chain alpha-keto acid dehydrogenase, in the degradation of several amino acids found in protein (leucine, isoleucine and valine). Thus, a low-carbohydrate diet, may not resolve all symptoms, because a B1-dependent enzyme is required in the digestion of proteins. The clinical assays for B1 typically measure serum levels and this may be quite unrelated to B1 levels in the brain. The best test is called a transketolase assay, in which the activity of the enzyme is measured with and without added TPP to obtain the TPP differential. A TPP differential of 14% or greater is considered to be a significant B1 deficiency. This assay used to be commonly carried out among alcoholic populations but it is rarely done in children. It may be difficult to find a laboratory in the USA that does the assay properly. Please note that the transketolase assay is not able to detect a B1-deficiency in the brain or if the B1-utlizing enzymes in the brain are properly binding to TPP. Thus, an individual may have B1-responsive symptoms, but no known serum assay will detect a B1 deficiency. Who am I and how do I know all of this and why do I care? I am a professor who has conducted biochemical research for more than 20 years. Since my son was eight months old, I suspected that something was wrong with his metabolism. I took him to over 20 physicians, including pediatricians and numerous kinds of specialists. All missed clinical signs of vitamin B1 and vitamin C deficiencies. When my son was 8 years old, he was diagnosed with ADHD, Tourette's syndrome and visual learning disabilities. I started researching the medical literature myself, with some key references given below. When I realized he displayed all symptoms of Wernicke-Korsakoff's syndrome (albeit in a milder form), I began the proper administration of 350 mg of B1 and 400 mg Mg, split into 3 daily doses. Within 30 hours, his mood changed from depressed to very happy; within a week, all tics disappeared; within four weeks, his nearly constant nausea disappeared; and his focus continues to improve, albeit more slowly. I am now looking into ways to reverse the neurological damage that has occurred over the first eight years of his life. I am not a physician and cannot help individuals with their problems. However, I would like to collect antidotal stories and the names of individuals who think that B1-Mg supplementation may be helping their children. Six Important References: 1. L. Pantoni, L. Poggesi, A. Repice and D. Inzitari. " Disappearance of motor tics after Wernicke's encephalopathy in a patient with Tourette's syndrome. " Neurology, 48:381-383 (1997). 2. A. Brenner. " The effects of megadoses of selected B complex vitamins on children with hyperkinesis: controlled studies with long-term follow-up. " Journal of Learning Disabilities, 15(5):258-264 (1982). 3. L. Reinken, H. Stolley and W. Droese. " Biochemical assessment of thiamine nutrition in childhood. " European Journal of Pediatrics, 131:229-235 (1979) 4. A.B. Mukherjee, S. Svoronos, A. Ghazanfari, P.R. Martin, A. Fisher, B. Roecklein, D. Rodbard, R. Staton, D. Behar, C.J. Berg and R. Manjunath. " Transketolase abnormality in clutured fibrobnlasts from familial chronic alcoholic men and their male offspring. " The Journal of Clinical Investigation, 79:1039-1043 (1987). 5. J.P. Blass and G.E. Gibson. " Abnormality of a thiamine-requiring enzyme in patients with Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome " . The New England Journal of Medicine, 297:1367-1370 (1977). 6. R.L. Hoffman. " The natural approach to attention deficit disorder: drug-free ways to treat the roots of this childhood epidemic. " Good Health Guide published by Keats Publishing, Inc., New Canaan, Connecticut, 1997. In the course of my research, I have learned of physicians who have expertise in the field of vitamin B1, including Dr. Arnold Brenner from Randallstown, Maryland; Dr. Derrick Lonsdale in the Chicago area; and Dr. Ronald Hoffman in the New York City area. http://dem0nmac.mgh.harvard.edu/forum/TouretteSyndromeF/2.14.997.39PMTSparen tsanE.html http://dem0nmac.mgh.harvard.edu/forum/TouretteSyndromeF/2.14.996.25PMsibsoft skids.html http://dem0nmac.mgh.harvard.edu/forum/TouretteSyndromeMenu.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonathan c Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I am currently on 1500mg of magnesium citrate and 300mg of b1 is order to help my stutter, I have read a few articles that claim it helps (in some cases cures) stutters. Been on it a few days and so far only noticed a runny tummy which is a common side effect of high dose magnesium. I will post on here again in a couple weeks with my results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonathan c Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 After two weeks noticed no noticeable effect from the supplement besides a runny tummy. My speech got a little worse tho I'm blaming that on environmental factors. Did not work for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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