Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 - -Rick- [Chemtrail_Illness_Research] Fw: Heavy spraying over Vancouver today Hi Everyone, It deeply saddens me to have to send out this email about what is happening over our skies. Today was the worst spraying I've seen in Vancouver in five years. If you object to being spraying with chemicals, take a few minutes out of your day and phone the media when you see it. I have found the most effective way to do it is to simply ask the newsrooms if there is anyone there who can tell me what they are spraying over the city. Here are some numbers to call: Air Traffic Control for Vancouver: 604 276-6177 City Hall: 604 606 2676 Coastal Health Authority: 604 871-6540 Environmental Protection: 604 736-2866 CityTV: 604 872-6122 CTV: 604 608-2868 CBC: 604 662-6900 Environment Canada (Bruce Thompson) (don't have the # handy) any others? Email me and let me know Below is a copy of an email I've just sent to an interested reporter at the CBC. It gives a background and research information. Please forward this email to anyone who might be interested. To Gregor Craigie Hi Gregor, Thanks for speaking with me on Sunday on this important issue. If you had looked up today, you would have seen yet again another example of massive spraying over the city. 95-100% of the cloud cover today all came from airplanes as they flew over the city one after another in parallel lines. Over downtown today at 12:00 there was even one of the “X’s” (intersecting lines) so often reported by others in the States but rarely seen in Vancouver, and another one again this evening. People speculate that is for easier satellite identification. As I said, I’ve been aware of this issue for several years now, but only started looking into this myself since last fall to try to get some answers. Until then I didn't really believe it could be possible that this would be done to an unsuspecting public. I started a website at http://www.lifeprobe.com/, but there is so much information and work to do for one citizen that I have had to put it aside until later. Once I found out about Will Thomas and his efforts to bring attention to this issue, I volunteered to redo his website. I finished it in March. The first day it was posted it received over 800 visitors. In the past 3 months since it has been up it’s had over 33,000. The U.S. Military and government are regular visitors. The address is http://www.willthomas.net/. (It’s not in perfect condition now as Will has taken it over and his web skills are not that advanced). The numbers of people that are aware of this issue and wanting to get answers are hidden, but sizeable. Thompson from Environment Canada told me that on every clear day he receives two to three phone calls from people concerned about suspicious “contrails”. That’s a remarkable figure considering few people bother to phone anyone, and fewer still would think to phone and get in touch with him. Hardly any would phone him back too, I suspect, since he just tells everyone they are seeing water vapor and normal engine exhaust gases and that’s the end of it. CFRB radio in Toronto held a show on the subject and viewer response to the show was the best of any show they have ever had, according to the host. Torontonians phoned in very angry and motivated to stop this. A proposal was made to petition Mel Lastman to get the spraying stopped. There have been other petitions also: 550 residents from the small town of Espanola, Ontario petitioned the government to stop the spraying, citing increased health problems among the residents. Brain Holmes from Ontario has just submitted a national petition to the government consisting of over 1500 signatures. By popular demand, Will Thomas and Carnicom has been interviewed on the Coast to Coast radio show (audience 15-20 million) and the Jeff Rense Radio show (large audience as well) on this subject. People all over the world in 14 NATO-affiliated countries are reporting this activity on thousands of websites. Some of the more active ones are: The Chemtrail Tracking Group, where mostly Americans report efforts to stop the spraying, and new research on the message board, and log spraying in their area in the calendar section. Here is the home page: http://users.ev1.net/%7Eseektress/club2.htm. Here is the direct link to the community (you’ll have to sign up-it’s free): chemtrailtrackingusa/ Carnicom at http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm. He has done the most solid scientific research on the subject. See http://www.carnicom.com/precip1.htm for collection methods and analysis. Here are Carnicom’s thoughts on debunker’s claims that this is a non-issue: "To characterize carefully accumulated evidence of photography, videography, air filtration and rainfall samples, spectroscopy, meteorological studies, laboratory and chemical analyses, microscopy, aviation physics, direct methods of particulate observation, visibility studies, deteriorating air quality, insurance exclusions, drought considerations, electrolysis and chemical precipitation examinations, plasma physics and electromagnetic considerations, biological investigations, eyewitness testimony, fleeting congressional legislation, federal mortality and illness statistics, and the patent and documented failure of federal and state officials and organizations to adequately address the civil calls for investigation as a "belief" is disingenuous at best. "--Clifford Carnicom Chemtrail Central (http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/) for FAQs, video, research, etc. Here are is an introductory article from Will Thomas’s site: http://www.willthomas.net/chemconfirmedart.htm There are audio interviews about Chemtrails you can hear free on the Internet: Will Thomas on Rense.com last week( 06-05-03): http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rense/ Another interview by him here: http://www.unisun.org/data/audio/channels/myth/myth1.ram (streaming may take a while to kick in). There is medical research and analysis of spraying and samples purposely dropped from planes by trained health professionals, (http://www.moonbowmedia.com/ei/ct/index.htm), there is research proposing such military campaigns (http://www.rense.com/general18/scatteringEdTellerwithnotes.pdf), and there are patents describing the technology and purposes: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1 & Sect2=HITOFF & d=PALL & p=1 & u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm & r=1 & f=G & l=50 & s1='4,686,605'.WKU. & OS=PN/4,686,605 & RS=PN/4,686,605 , http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1 & Sect2=HITOFF & d=PALL & p=1 & u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm & r=1 & f=G & l=50 & s1='5003186'.WKU. & OS=PN/5003186 & RS=PN/5003186 There are statements of intent by the military to control the weather through this technology: (https://research.au.af.mil/papers/spacecast/volume3/chap15/vol3ch15.pdf). Some of this research has been removed from the Internet by their request (http://hyperion.gsfc.nasa.gov/AEAP/ ). There is funding and equipment (over 800 KC135 tankers in the U.S. fleet), and there is eyewitness, video and photographic evidence of it occurring, and there are air traffic controllers who have come forward about it: http://www.willthomas.net/Articles/airtrafficconcerned.htm. Chemtrail spraying has now been acknowledged by the U.S. Air Force and the FAA, and was proposed to be banned in Senate Resolution HR 2977, sponsored by Congressman Kucinich, (http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/text/chemtrails_acknowl.html) where it is named as an "exotic atmospheric weapons system." Later versions of the bill had references to chemtrails deleted. There are also ways to confirm the spraying by scientific analysis: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/report.shtml . Last week at a press conference Kucinich, who is running for President, admitted chemtrails are real. I have a copy of Will Thomas’ 30 minute video on the subject that I would be most happy to drop off to you, as well as his book on the subject. I can also lend you a home made video by another fellow in the states. I would be happy to give you copies of audio interviews by Carnicom, and the interview on CFRB as well. A copy of the KC135 tanker circling over Victoria spraying the city is also availble as I taped it when CHEK TV ran the news story. My presentation at a local community center was recorded by WorkingTV and will be aired shortly. I’ll let you know the date. The reaction of the small community presentation to the showing of the video was one of strong emotion. There is fear and anger, and frustration as to why the mainstream media won’t discuss it. WorkingTV they told me their previous chemtrail presentation by Will Thomas garnered the highest viewer response they’ve ever had, and Noam Chomsky is one of their past speakers. The health issue is one of great to concern to me and many others. I have documented a list of alleged symptoms of the spraying here: http://www.lifeprobe.com/healtheffects.htm. The key point to note is that people are reporting flu like symptoms with a persistent, dry cough, without a fever. This seems to fall in line with claims by Carnicom and others that there is a biological/fungal component to the spray as well. I drove up to meet a man and his family in Powell River last week for two days to learn his story. He has been trying to get some answers to the heavy spraying from Comox over his town, to no avail. His photographs are excellent. He has two young daughters and a wife who works in the health care field. One of his daughters actually lost her entire memory for several days after a bout of spraying. She couldn't recognize her family, friends, or teachers at school, nor could she remember what she had learned. She wasn't sure who she was or where she was. Comprehensive tests were run and the doctors shrugged their shoulders and suggested she had "eaten some bad food". This man has also experienced this memory loss, as have others throughout the States.. He refers to Powell River as a Petri dish for Comox Air Force Base. His story reminds me of Erin Brockovich. On the way up to visit him I camped out on Denman Island and watched as planes flew overhead every 10 minutes methodically over every part of the sky for hours, until the entire sky was covered in white haze: This continued from 6:00 p.m. until I finally went to sleep past 1:00 a.m. I had heard reports of night spraying but had never seen it until then. The next day the skies where completely white. The two most challenging issues as I see it are the fact that the U.S. military refuses to acknowledge it is happening (as they did the Gulf War Syndrome), and the idea of being sprayed seems to be too odd to be initially believed. It requires people to learn to look up at the sky, to observe the patterns and persistence of the lines, and then to find out the temperature and humidity at that time to see if persistent chemtrails are possible (temperature must be -70 and humidity must be at least 70%). All this with denial from the government and media. Atmospheric conditions yesterday and today did not support the formation of persistent contrails. It also takes a willingness to look into this issue seriously, and most importantly to have the courage to consider the possibility that things are not as they seem. The movie the Matrix is a great analogy for this. This story will break sooner or later-it just depends on who has the ethical strength and willpower to do it. Perhaps you know someone like that. In my opinion, the end result will lead to a class-action lawsuit against the governments http://www.rbs2.com/weather.htm . For my own part, I’ve finally decided to move to a country that doesn’t spray its citizens with hazardous chemicals without their knowledge or consent. I am packing now and leave Vancouver in two weeks. I am happy to meet with you before then to discuss any of this in further detail. I have much more to tell if you are interested. Please forward this email on to anyone who might be interested. Regards, Scott Dagilis 488-1205, cell: 657-9152 __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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