Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 Australian Pediatric Soy Protein Formula Policy 9/22/01- http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/22/soy_protein_formula_policy.htm - Australian Pediatric Soy Protein Formula Policy Policy Statement of Royal College of Australian Physicians The lack of a suitable diagnostic test for food intolerance has allowed for an exaggeration of the incidence and a tendency for over-diagnosis. The true incidence of milk intolerance in our community is difficult to ascertain but a reasonable working figure would be 2.0% (1). The number of infants on soy formula outweighs this figure as soy formula accounts for approximately 10% of formula sales in Australia. There is no evidence that soy formulas are nutritionally better than cow's milk formula for normal infants. The assumption that symptomatic infants who improve on soy formula are therefore intolerant of milk protein is addressed in this statement (2). There are several well-characterized disorders caused by cow's milk protein intolerance (CMPI), including cow's milk allergy, cow's milk enteropathy and cow's milk colitis. There is also a range of vague signs and symptoms ascribed to CMPI, which includes excessive crying, vomiting, wind, colic, vague ill health, and tension-fatigue syndrome (3). With the latter symptoms, there is usually no evidence of associated chronic diarrhea or growth failure. Of concern, is that many of these latter symptoms may be the result of parent-child relationship problems, which are inappropriate to treat with soy formula. Controlled trials of cow's milk and soy formulae in colicky infants have not demonstrated a benefit from soy formula (4). The rationale for the use of soy formula is the assumption that soy protein is less antigenic than cow's milk protein and thus should be used in the treatment of CMPI, or prophylactically in patients at high risk for developing CMPI. Soy protein can cause intolerance reactions with gastrointestinal symptoms as well as acute anaphylaxis and up to 40% of infants intolerant of cow's milk also develop soy protein intolerance (6). Studies show that feeding soy formulae from birth in infants at increased risk of developing allergy, does not have a beneficial effect (7-9). Eastham et al, in a prospective feeding trial, showed soy protein to be at least as antigenic as cow's milk protein (8). Miskelly et al, in a randomized clinical trial of cow's milk vs soy protein formulae in children with family histories of atopic disease, demonstrated a similar incidence of wheezing and eczema between the groups and an increased incidence of napkin rash, diarrhea and oral thrush in the group fed soy formula (9). Thus, it seems that soy formula is inappropriate even in cases of proven CMPI, because of its ability to cause reactions. In cases of true gastrointestinal CMPI, the use of protein which has been hydrolyzed to the point that it is no longer antigenic, is preferred. Soy protein contains only one-third of available nitrogen as essential or semi-essential amino acids (10) and therefore has a lower biological value than milk protein. Soy may cause loss from the gut of vitamins, minerals and trace elements and it has been suggested that 10% more calories are needed in soy preparations in order to promote equivalent growth to infants breastfed or fed a milk formula (11). Low levels of chloride have been reported and may result in serious hypochloraemic alkalosis in infants fed soy formula (12). Manufacturers currently attempt to compensate for these potential problems by adding extra protein, trace elements and chloride to soy formulae. Growth of infants fed soy formulae is similar to that of infants fed formulae based on cow's milk protein but there is concern about poorer bone mineralization in infants fed soy formulae (13). The carbohydrate content of soy formula differs in each of the three commonly available preparations (Isomil: sucrose 36%, corn syrup solids 64%; Prosobee: maltodextrins 100%; Infasoy: sucrose 25%, corn syrup solids 75%). Sucrose is not the preferred carbohydrate in infancy because of its potential effect on teeth and development of inappropriate eating habits. High aluminum content has also been documented in soy formula (14). Soy is also a rich source of phytoestrogens (nonsteroidal estrogens of the isoflavone class). It is unclear whether these are beneficial (protect against breast and prostate cancer) or harmful (result in infertility and liver disease) (15). It is also possible that soy formula impairs immunity. Infants fed soy formula had lower levels of antibodies in response to routine immunizations and more infections than those fed human milk or cow's milk formula (16). Policy Statement of Royal College of Australian Physicians DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: It is great to find a major professional organization come down so strongly against soy formula. Perhaps soon the rest of the sleeping medical community will wake up on this issue. As I said last year: Soy formula is one of the worst foods that you could feed your child. Not only does it have profoundly adverse hormonal effects as discussed above, but it also has over 1000% more aluminum than conventional milk based formulas. I don't recommend either, but if one, for whatever reason, cannot breast feed, then Carnation Good Start until six months and Carnation Follow-Up after that seem to be the best commercial formula currently available, although it may not contain taurine, in which case it should be added. The milk protein is hydrolyzed 80% which tends to significantly decrease its allergenicity. It is also important to note that when breast feeding it is wise to avoid drinking milk as it has been shown for several decades that the milk will pass directly into the breast milk which can cause potential problems in the infant. Taurine is a " conditionally essential " amino acid and not present in sufficient quantities in most formulas. It would also be wise to split a 500 mg Taurine capsule into 7 parts and add one part a day to the formula so the total daily dose will be about 75 mg. It would also be wise to add 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of cod liver oil a day to the babies diet even if being breast fed as the vitamin D and fatty acid DHA are incredibly important essential nutrients that are frequently lacking in an infant's diet. Related Articles: Soy Formulas and the Effects of Isoflavones on the Thyroid How Safe is Soy Infant Formula? Soy Formula Exposes Infants to High Hormone Levels References 1. Jacobsson I, Lindberg T. A prospective study of cow's milk protein intolerance in Swedish infants. Acta Paediatr Scand 1979; 68:853. 2. Editorial. How necessary are elimination diets in childhood? BMJ 1980; 1:138. 3. Tait LS. Soy feeding in infancy. Arch Dis Child 1982; 57:814-15. 4. Lothe L, Lindberg T, Jakobsson I. Cow's milk formula as a cause of infantile colic: a double-blind study. Pediatrics 1982; 70:7-10. 5. Taubman B. Parental counseling compared with eliminating of cow's milk or soy milk protein for the treatment of infant colic syndrome: a randomised trial. Pediatrics 1988; 81:756-61. 6. Hill DJ, Ford RPK, Shelton MJ, et al. A study of 100 infants and young children with cow's milk allergy. Clin Rev Allergy 1984; 2:125-42. 7. Gruskay FL. Comparison of breast, cow and soy feedings in the prevention of onset of allergic disease. Clin Paediatr 1982; 21:486-91. 8. Eastham EJ, Lichauco T, Grady MI, et al. Antigenicity of infant formulas: role of immature intestine on protein permeability. J Pediatr 1978; 93:561-4. 9. Miskelly FG, Burr MC, Vaughan-Williams E, et al. Infant feeding and allergy. Arch Dis Child 1988; 63:388-93. 10. Graham GC, Placko RP, Moralk E, et al. Dietary protein quality in infants and children. Am J Dis Child 1970; 120:419-23. 11. Avery GB, Fletcher AB. Nutrition: In: Avery GB (ed). Neonatology. Lippincott, Philadelphia, pp1002-60. 12. Linshaw MA, Harrison HL, Groskin AB, et al. Hypochloraemic alkalosis in infants associated with soy protein formula. J Pediatr 1980; 96:635-40. 13. Steichen JJ, Tsang RC. Bone mineralisation and growth in term infants fed soy-based or cow milk-based formula. J Pediatr 1987; 110:687-92. 14. Simmer K, Fudge A, Teubner G, et al. Aluminium concentrations in infant formulae. J Paediatr Child Health 1990; 26:9-11. 15. Essex C. Phytoestrogens and soy based infant formula. BMJ 1996; 313:507-8. 16. Zoppi G, Gasparini R, Mantovanelli F, et al. Diet and antibody response to vaccinations in healthy infants. Lancet 1983; ii: 11-13. ©Copyright 1997-2001 by Joseph M. Mercola, DO. . This content may be copied in full, with copyright; contact; creation; and information intact, without specific permission, when used only in a not-for-profit format. If any other use is desired, permission in writing from Dr. Mercola is required. Disclaimer - Newsletters are based upon the opinions of Dr. Mercola. They are not intended to replace a one-on-one relationship with a qualified health care professional and they are not intended as medical advice. They are intended as a sharing of knowledge and information from the research and experience of Dr. Mercola and his community. Dr. Mercola encourages you to make your own health care decisions based upon your research and in partnership with a qualified health care professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 The only place I've read a lot of anti-Soy stuff from 'alternative health' sources is Mercola. However nothing to say he isn't get paid by someone. Anyway, I take soy for estrogen content and I was soo very sick from coming off of HRT and within a few days of taking Soy replacement was better, dramatically better. Then stopped it and symptoms resumed and stopped again when I took it so take it every day now. There is too much money on the sides oposing soy for me to give much credence to this, soy used in so many countries for so long. Anyway this is nothing that you can eat that is not risk free or not tolerated by certain people while okay in others, look at people allergic to peanuts, milk, medicine (while others do fine), so I think soy is okay. As for aluminum in pediatric soy, well arsenic and other toxins in the water also; give the kid breast milk of mother not on 'anything' to be safe. Our food sources will never be 100% pure, ever. barb --- Elaine <mem121 wrote: > Australian Pediatric Soy Protein Formula Policy > 9/22/01- > http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/22/soy_protein_formula_policy.htm > - > > Australian Pediatric Soy Protein Formula Policy > Policy Statement of Royal > College of Australian Physicians The lack of a > suitable diagnostic test for > food intolerance has allowed for an > exaggeration of the incidence and a > tendency for over-diagnosis. The true incidence > of milk intolerance in our > community is difficult to ascertain but a > reasonable working figure would be > 2.0% (1). The number of infants on soy formula > outweighs this figure as soy > formula accounts for approximately 10% of > formula sales in Australia. There > is no evidence that soy formulas are > nutritionally better than cow's milk > formula for normal infants. The assumption that > symptomatic infants who > improve on soy formula are therefore intolerant > of milk protein is addressed > in this statement (2). There are several > well-characterized disorders caused > by cow's milk protein intolerance (CMPI), > including cow's milk allergy, > cow's milk enteropathy and cow's milk colitis. > There is also a range of > vague signs and symptoms ascribed to CMPI, > which includes excessive crying, > vomiting, wind, colic, vague ill health, and > tension-fatigue syndrome (3). > With the latter symptoms, there is usually no > evidence of associated chronic > diarrhea or growth failure. Of concern, is that > many of these latter > symptoms may be the result of parent-child > relationship problems, which are > inappropriate to treat with soy formula. > Controlled trials of cow's milk and > soy formulae in colicky infants have not > demonstrated a benefit from soy > formula (4). The rationale for the use of soy > formula is the assumption that > soy protein is less antigenic than cow's milk > protein and thus should be > used in the treatment of CMPI, or > prophylactically in patients at high risk > for developing CMPI. Soy protein can cause > intolerance reactions with > gastrointestinal symptoms as well as acute > anaphylaxis and up to 40% of > infants intolerant of cow's milk also develop > soy protein intolerance (6). > Studies show that feeding soy formulae from > birth in infants at increased > risk of developing allergy, does not have a > beneficial effect (7-9). Eastham > et al, in a prospective feeding trial, showed > soy protein to be at least as > antigenic as cow's milk protein (8). Miskelly > et al, in a randomized > clinical trial of cow's milk vs soy protein > formulae in children with family > histories of atopic disease, demonstrated a > similar incidence of wheezing > and eczema between the groups and an increased > incidence of napkin rash, > diarrhea and oral thrush in the group fed soy > formula (9). Thus, it seems > that soy formula is inappropriate even in cases > of proven CMPI, because of > its ability to cause reactions. In cases of > true gastrointestinal CMPI, the > use of protein which has been hydrolyzed to the > point that it is no longer > antigenic, is preferred. Soy protein contains > only one-third of available > nitrogen as essential or semi-essential amino > acids (10) and therefore has a > lower biological value than milk protein. Soy > may cause loss from the gut of > vitamins, minerals and trace elements and it > has been suggested that 10% > more calories are needed in soy preparations in > order to promote equivalent > growth to infants breastfed or fed a milk > formula (11). Low levels of > chloride have been reported and may result in > serious hypochloraemic > alkalosis in infants fed soy formula (12). > Manufacturers currently attempt > to compensate for these potential problems by > adding extra protein, trace > elements and chloride to soy formulae. Growth > of infants fed soy formulae is > similar to that of infants fed formulae based > on cow's milk protein but > there is concern about poorer bone > mineralization in infants fed soy > formulae (13). The carbohydrate content of soy > formula differs in each of > the three commonly available preparations > (Isomil: sucrose 36%, corn syrup > solids 64%; Prosobee: maltodextrins 100%; > Infasoy: sucrose 25%, corn syrup > solids 75%). Sucrose is not the preferred > carbohydrate in infancy because of > its potential effect on teeth and development > of inappropriate eating > habits. High aluminum content has also been > documented in soy formula (14). > Soy is also a rich source of phytoestrogens > (nonsteroidal estrogens of the > isoflavone class). It is unclear whether these > are beneficial (protect > against breast and prostate cancer) or harmful > (result in infertility and > liver disease) (15). It is also possible that > soy formula impairs immunity. > Infants fed soy formula had lower levels of > antibodies in response to > routine immunizations and more infections than > those fed human milk or cow's > milk formula (16). Policy Statement of Royal > College of Australian > Physicians > > DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: It is great to find a > major professional organization > come down so strongly against soy formula. > Perhaps soon the rest of the > sleeping medical community will wake up on this > issue. As I said last year: > Soy formula is one of the worst foods that you > could feed your child. Not > only does it have profoundly adverse hormonal > effects as discussed above, > but it also has over 1000% more aluminum than > conventional milk based > formulas. I don't recommend either, but if one, > for whatever reason, cannot > breast feed, then Carnation Good Start until > six months and Carnation > Follow-Up after that seem to be the best > commercial formula currently > available, although it may not contain taurine, > in which case it should be > added. The milk protein is hydrolyzed 80% which > tends to significantly > decrease its allergenicity. It is also > important to note that when breast > feeding it is wise to avoid drinking milk as it > has been shown for several > decades that the milk will pass directly into > the breast milk which can > cause potential problems in the infant. Taurine > is a " conditionally > essential " amino acid and not present in > sufficient quantities in most > formulas. It would also be wise to split a 500 > mg Taurine capsule into 7 > parts and add one part a day to the formula so > the total daily dose will be > about 75 mg. It would also be wise to add 1/4 > to 1/2 teaspoon of cod liver > oil a day to the babies diet even if being > breast fed as the vitamin D and > fatty acid DHA are incredibly important > essential nutrients that are > frequently lacking in an infant's diet. Related > Articles: Soy Formulas and > the Effects of Isoflavones on the Thyroid How > Safe is Soy Infant Formula? > Soy Formula Exposes Infants to High Hormone > Levels References > 1. Jacobsson I, Lindberg T. A prospective study > of cow's milk protein > intolerance in Swedish infants. Acta Paediatr > Scand 1979; 68:853. > 2. Editorial. How necessary are elimination > diets in childhood? BMJ 1980; > 1:138. > 3. Tait LS. Soy feeding in infancy. Arch Dis > Child 1982; 57:814-15. > 4. Lothe L, Lindberg T, Jakobsson I. Cow's milk > formula as a cause of > infantile colic: a double-blind study. > Pediatrics 1982; 70:7-10. > 5. Taubman B. Parental counseling compared with > eliminating of cow's milk or > soy milk protein for the treatment of infant > colic syndrome: a randomised > trial. Pediatrics 1988; 81:756-61. > 6. Hill DJ, Ford RPK, Shelton MJ, et al. A > study of 100 infants and young > children with cow's milk allergy. Clin Rev > Allergy 1984; 2:125-42. > === message truncated === SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Then you haven't been looking. Perhaps sticking your head in the sand is the best course for you to follow though. You obviously don't want to be confused by a lot of facts. >The only place I've read a lot of anti-Soy stuff >from 'alternative health' sources is Mercola. -- Neil Jensen: neil The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ " Dragons is sooooo stupid! " -- Yosemite Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 - " Judy " <ramcd > I was taking soy products for several months because I went off HRT, and my > cholesterol seemed to go up a few notches. _________ I wouldn't be so quick to assume that it's the soy tht raised your choleserol a " few notches. " You might try consuming half as much soy, and see what the results are. I have also read about a lage amount of pesticides found in soy. _________ Search for " organic " soy products. There are large amounts of pesiticide on nearly all foods, which is why I always search for " organic " when I shop for nearly all foods. > Judy > - > " Neil Jensen " <neil > > Sunday, July 06, 2003 11:51 AM > Re: High aluminum content in Pediatric Soy > Protein Formula > > > Then you haven't been looking. Perhaps sticking your head in the sand is the > best course for you to follow though. You obviously don't want to be > confused by a lot of facts. > > >The only place I've read a lot of anti-Soy stuff > >from 'alternative health' sources is Mercola. > > -- > Neil Jensen: neil > The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ > " Dragons is sooooo stupid! " -- Yosemite Sam > > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > > NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUS > SAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS, > GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC. > $11.95 For Single or > $19.95 For an entire household per month! > Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period > Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits > > http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/ > > Email: MEM121 > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ > » > > § - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! § > > Subscribe:......... - > To :.... - > > Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news > related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a > qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, > especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, > any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without > profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving > the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes > only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Yes. I have started to shop at Wild Oats grocery here which carries primarily organically grown foods and hormone free meat, etc. They are national chain but not big yet, only one in whole city. Everything is a bit more expensive though. barb --- John Polifronio <counterpnt wrote: > > > I wouldn't be so quick to assume that it's the > soy tht raised your > choleserol a " few notches. " You might try > consuming half as much soy, and > see what the results are. > > I have also read about a lage amount of > pesticides found in soy. > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 I was taking soy products for several months because I went off HRT, and my cholesterol seemed to go up a few notches. I have also read about a lage amount of pesticides found in soy. Judy - " Neil Jensen " <neil Sunday, July 06, 2003 11:51 AM Re: High aluminum content in Pediatric Soy Protein Formula Then you haven't been looking. Perhaps sticking your head in the sand is the best course for you to follow though. You obviously don't want to be confused by a lot of facts. >The only place I've read a lot of anti-Soy stuff >from 'alternative health' sources is Mercola. -- Neil Jensen: neil The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ " Dragons is sooooo stupid! " -- Yosemite Sam «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUS SAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS, GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC. $11.95 For Single or $19.95 For an entire household per month! Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/ Email: MEM121 «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ » § - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! § Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Our definitions of " big " must vary considerably. Wild Oats is just about everywhere. That makes them BIG in my book. Even at the, so called, Whole Foods Markets, the bywords are caveat emptor. Their meat may be free of antibiotics and artificial hormones but the cattle are still raised on piles of their own excrement in gigantic feed lots. Their feed (grain) is totally unsuitable for ruminants (grass eaters) and as a result, many important nutrients are lacking in their meat. Foremost among these are Omega-3 fatty acids. Yes, buying your meat from Wild Oats is better than buying it from the supermarket -- but just barely. In fact, Wild Oats brazenly lies on the labels of their house brand of eggs. They claim that they are from free-ranging, vegetarian hens. Anyone who fails to see the oxymoron here simply doesn't know much about chicken and their natural diet. You see, one of the reasons that chickens, beside their eggs and meat, make such wonderful barnyard animals is that they eat a lot of bugs, thereby ridding the farm of many pests. Bugs are not vegetables. More than half of the products that line the shelves at Wild Oats contain poison, in one form and another. Although it has been thoroughly discredited, the lipid hypothesis is alive and well there and they are still pushing polyunsaturated and hydrogenated oils -- especially rapeseed oil (aka Canola). When i walk around the nearest local Wild Oats and read the package labels, i want to laugh, cry and scream at the same time. Yes, i do most of my shopping at Wild Oats and the local Co-Op, but i read the labels on EVERYTHING before it goes into my shopping cart. I buy my meat from a small store here in Albuquerque called Keller's Farm Store. All of their meats are from pasteured animals which are fed their natural diet -- grass in the warm months, hay and silage during the winter. CAVEAT EMPTOR (LET THE BUYER BEWARE)! >Yes. I have started to shop at Wild Oats grocery >here which carries primarily organically grown >foods and hormone free meat, etc. They are >national chain but not big yet, only one in whole >city. Everything is a bit more expensive though. > barb -- Neil Jensen: neil The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ " Dragons is sooooo stupid! " -- Yosemite Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 - " Neil Jensen " <neil More than half of the products that line the shelves at Wild Oats contain poison, in one form and another. Although it has been thoroughly discredited, the lipid hypothesis is alive and well there and they are still pushing polyunsaturated and hydrogenated oils -- especially rapeseed oil (aka Canola). ___ I was buying cold, whole grain cereals for a while, and checked out the bulk-barrel stock at Whole-Foods. Out of about 16 bulk cereal formulas, 15 used Canola Oil. It was depressing. How the hell did this oil get such widespread use; it's in thousands of products. JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Cereals that are made from whole grains are often called whole grain cereals, even though that are processed foods, have other junk added to them, and are really " cracked " grains. This is quite different than oat groats, whole wheat berries, millet, etc., that will sprout if it is soaked in water. -- Donald E. Jacobs Registered Massage Therapist Macrobiotic Counselor Reiki Practitioner Professional Speaker > More than half of the products that line the shelves at Wild Oats contain > poison, in one form and another. Although it has been thoroughly > discredited, the lipid hypothesis is alive and well there and they are > still > pushing polyunsaturated and hydrogenated oils -- especially rapeseed oil > (aka Canola). > ___ > I was buying cold, whole grain cereals for a while, and checked out the > bulk-barrel stock at Whole-Foods. Out of about 16 bulk cereal > formulas, 15 > used Canola Oil. It was depressing. How the hell did this oil get such > widespread use; it's in thousands of products. > JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Hi Barb. I shop there also, in Eugene Oregon. Donna - Barb Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:32 PM Re: High aluminum content in Pediatric Soy Protein Formula Yes. I have started to shop at Wild Oats groceryhere which carries primarily organically grownfoods and hormone free meat, etc. They arenational chain but not big yet, only one in wholecity. Everything is a bit more expensive though. barb--- John Polifronio <counterpntwrote:> > > I wouldn't be so quick to assume that it'sthe> soy tht raised your> choleserol a "few notches." You might try> consuming half as much soy, and> see what the results are.> > I have also read about a lage amount of> pesticides found in soy.> SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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