Britain bakes, Europe burns. Is this proof of global warming?

[Guest guest]

Britain bakes, Europe burns. Is this proof of global warming?

 

 

By Michael McCarthy, Environment Editor

 

05 August 2003

 

If it isn't proof of global warming at last, it certainly looks like it. As

much of Europe burns like a furnace and rivers run dry across the

continent, Britain is bracing itself for its own record temperature.

 

Sometime tomorrow, in southern England or the Midlands, the mercury in the

thermometer may pass 37.1C, which became the national record when

registered in Cheltenham on 3 August 1990. That centigrade peak translates

as 98.8 Fahrenheit, so the remarkable figure for Britain of 99 or even

100F- is on the cards.

 

" We reckon there's a 20 per cent chance it will happen, but in any case

it's going to get very very close, " said Andy Yeatman of the Met Office.

 

A record would be hugely significant - a three-figure Fahrenheit

temperature for the UK would be breaking psychological as well as new

meteorological ground as it would give many people for the first time the

perception that global warning is a real, not a theoretical phenomenon -

and that it is happening to them.

 

If we do see a record, and possibly 100F, meteorological scientists will

not directly attribute it to climate change - natural climate variability

is too great for a single heat episode to be put down to global warming.

But they will certainly say it is in line with what global warming is

predicted to produce by complex mathematical models of the Earth's climate

run on supercomputers.

 

And even if the record is not quite breached, Britain's weather services

are agreed that tomorrow temperatures will be in the upper 30s Centigrade

(or the high 90s Fahrenheit), certainly hitting 35-36C (95-97F). These are

temperatures that, in the past, have been reached only a few times per

century, and in anticipation, temporary speed restrictions were imposed

yesterday on some of Britain's busiest rail routes for fear of rails

buckling in the heat. Long-distance Virgin routes from London to the

Midlands and the North will be most affected, with a 60mph limit imposed by

Network Rail along the west coast main line from Euston to Crewe and the

cross-country network.

 

Individuals should be equally careful. Don't plan anything strenuous, put

suncream on the children and keep your bottled water handy. Britain will

bake.

 

It has been coming for weeks. Across Europe, an unending episode of

unprecedented heat has this summer reduced major rivers to a trickle in

Italy, turned southern France into an inferno of forest fires and sent

people in Germany to their deaths from heatstroke. Only the Atlantic

westerly winds have kept the burning air from Britain - and now the winds

are blowing from the south-east, and blowing the heat our way.

 

But what a contrast, in central and Eastern Europe, with just a year ago.

Then the problems were not heat and drought - they were torrential

downpours and flooding.

 

As two depressions came together last August and dumped a deluge of

biblical proportions over southern Germany, the Czech Republic, Austria and

Hungary, the region's great rivers burst their banks and drowned more than

100 people amid millions of pounds worth of damage. The two jewel cities of

Mitteleuropa, Dresden and Prague, were inundated as the Elbe and the Vltava

overflowed, and only its high flood defence walls saved Budapest as the

Danube rose nearly 10 metres. (This year it is, in places, only a metre

deep).

 

However, Europe's record soaking summer of 2002 and its record baking

summer of 2003 do not cancel each other out in terms of indicating global

warming - just the opposite.

 

Both are in line with one of the key features predicted for climate change,

if levels of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere, such as carbon dioxide

(CO2), keep going up - more extreme weather occurs.

 

" They are both consistent with what the computer models of the climate are

saying will become more frequent, if CO2 levels continue to rise, " said

Simon Brown, who is in charge of researching extreme events at the Met

Office's Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research.

 

Higher temperatures mean the air could hold more moisture, Dr Brown said,

so even in a dry summer, when rain falls, it could be much heavier.

 

Five weeks ago, in an unprecedented announcement, the World Meteorological

Organisation signalled weather extremes were being recorded all across the

world, from Switzerland's hottest-ever June to a record month for tornadoes

in the US - and linked them to global warming directly.

 

No one can prove it. But as you swelter in the heat today, you should

realise the evidence is stacking up.

 

Portugal

 

Portugal declared a state of national disaster yesterday after the worst

spate of forest fires in more than two decades killed nine people, torched

thousands of hectares of tinder-dry forest and destroyed scores of homes,

writes Tim Gaynor.

 

The emergency declaration allowed more than ¬100m (£70m) in aid to be

released. The funds will go to people who have lost their jobs and homes,

farmers who have lost crops and livestock, and to local councils so that

they can begin rebuilding infrastructure.

 

Emergency services in Lisbon said the fires, which came after weeks without

rain, had hit 15 of the country's 18 regions. Almost 3,000 firefighters,

380 troops, 781 fire engines, 23 helicopters and 12 water-carrying planes

were deployed to fight the blazes, which were fanned by strong winds.

 

The wildfires were raging mostly in the central region near Castelo Branco,

about 120 miles north-east of Lisbon, where the hills are covered with pine

forests.

 

Rescue workers said nine people had died in the past week, including a

fireman who was killed when a fire engine crashed. So far this year there

have been about 1,700 wild fires in the country, destroying more than

26,000 hectares of scrub and trees.

 

As the temperature rose to more than 40C, rail services were halted and

roads were cut off in some regions.

 

SPAIN

 

Emergency services evacuated hundreds of residents from villages and

farmhouses in central and south-west Spain yesterday, writes Tim Gaynor, as

high winds and record temperatures fanned summer fires into roaring blazes

that scorched thousands of hectares of woodland.

 

Hundreds of firefighters and volunteers battled blazes in the province of

Avila, north-west of Madrid, after a separate fire in the region of

Extremadura bordering Portugal, which destroyed 1,000 hectares (2,470

acres) of woodland and led to the evacuation of 750 people, was brought

under control.

 

Emergency services in Avila said the blaze was raging along a front 80

kilometres wide across 5,000 hectares of woodland.

 

Further fires, whipped up by strong winds and record temperatures above 40C

(104F) in much of the country, also burned over the weekend in the western

Andalusian province of Huelva and in Ciudad Real in the central La Mancha

plains. The temperatures in many towns and cities are the highest since

records began.

 

FRANCE

 

As temperatures and ozone levels hit new peaks in France yesterday, the

happiest beasts were 27 polar bears slurping mackerel-flavoured iced

lollies at a zoo near Paris, writes Alex Duval Smith. The worst off, after

police enforced reduced speed limits to cut pollution, were holidaymakers

stuck in their cars.

 

Meteo France said the coolest thing for humans to do, at least until

Thursday, would be to carry out important business at daybreak when

temperatures could fall as low as 20C. Yesterday, Clermont-Ferrand in the

south recorded 43C at midday.

 

The weather forecasting centre said the combination of high temperatures

and heavy traffic last weekend had compounded the pollution. Ozone counts

reached peak levels, including in traditionally temperate cities such as Le

Havre and Reims. In Provence, sulphur dioxide levels reached their highest

rates this year.

 

While the bears at Thoiry Zoo near Versailles were cooling themselves with

mackerel frozen into ice, efforts at France's nuclear power stations to

keep temperatures down met with controversy.

 

The Green Party said Fessenheim nuclear power station in Alsace - where a

temperature of 48C was recorded outside the reactor last week - should be

immediately shut. The party denounced what it called the " irresponsible

attitude " ' of Electricité de France in using a giant water cannon to cool

the outer shell of the plant. The Greens also warned that the falling level

of the Loire had increased the radioactivity of cooling water pumped into

the river from the Villerest reactor.

 

After a weekend of record holiday traffic, police in Paris and

Bouches-du-Rhône reduced the motorway speed limit to 100kph (60mph).

 

ITALY

 

In Italy the priests have asked their congregations to pray for rain,

writes Hugh MacLeod.

 

With the river Po in the north nearly eight metres (24ft) below its normal

levels and still dropping, and the national grid issuing a warning of

possible blackouts, officials are on the point of declaring a state of

emergency in the north.

 

Plans are being drawn up to pump water from Alpine lakes and dams into the

river Po, which is at its lowest level for 100 years.

 

Temperatures in Rome have been hitting 35C for weeks, forcing tourists to

cool off in the Trevi fountain - and pay a fine for doing so.

 

Agricultural groups say farmers have lost about ¬5bn worth of crops, and

the price of some fruit and vegetables has gone up as a result of the

drought.

 

In southern Italy, where lack of water has become a serious problem, large

areas of scrubland were destroyed by fires raging in Calabria and Salento

in the region of Apulia.

 

Fire broke out on Mount Vesuvius but it was reported to have been

extinguished at the weekend.

 

Italy's national grid, GRTN, said there may be power blackouts today due to

high demand and problems with the supply of electricity. Italy has suffered

power cuts in recent weeks as temperatures have soared.

 

A GRTN official said the grid estimated 2,000 megawatts of demand more than

had been expected, and reduced capacity at some power plants may make it

necessary to cut power.

 

GERMANY

 

This time last year the weather in Germany was the opposite of what it is

now. August 2002 brought the worst floods to hit the country in more than

100 years, writes Ruth Elkins.

 

A year on, Germany's media is remembering the tragedy, which cost 11 lives

and caused ¬9.1bn in damage. Now Germany swelters in up to 40C and 95 per

cent humidity. They are the highest temperatures in Germany since 1976, the

German weather service says.

 

Dresden's train station, famously pictured under water at the height of the

floods last year, is now a tangle of train lines on parched grass.

Temperatures in Berlin soared to over 35C at the weekend and the city's

lakeside beaches were packed with people trying to cool off.

 

But Germany's heat wave has also brought its own disasters. " Berlin cooks " ,

screamed the city's tabloid BZ's front page on yesterday. The newspaper

reported the deaths of four Berliners due to the extreme heat, including

two pensioners who died driving.

 

The paper also told of Berlin caretaker Bernd K who died after chasing two

teenagers he suspected of trying to break into a flat. " The heat wave, the

excitement, it was too much for the 49-year-old, " the paper wrote.

 

Many Germans may hope for a Hitzefrei, or " heatwave off " , a rule that

allows workers and schoolchildren to go home if temperatures rise too high

and it becomes too uncomfortably, or dangerously, hot to stay at their

desks.

 

REST OF EUROPE

 

Even Sweden hasn't escaped the blazes which have been sweeping Europe for

the past week, reporting a series of bush fires along its north-eastern

coast, writes Hugh Macleod.

 

Across the continent, gusting winds are fanning the flames through

tinder-dry forests and crops.

 

In Greece, dozens of holidaymakers and residents were evacuated early last

week from properties near the Corinth canal as flames threatened the area,

while the worst fires in 15 years burned outside the Croatian city of

Dubrovnik.

 

In neighbouring Slovenia, about 500 firefighters were fighting the biggest

fire in a decade near the Italian border.

 

Many parts of Switzerland have banned open fires completely while the

levels of the Danube fell to their lowest in more than a century in Serbia

and Montenegro, making the river unnavigable for barges.

 

4 August 2003 05:11

 

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[Guest guest]

On the other hand, Pennsylvania " simmers. " If the

coolness continues, we are going to have a cold winter. Usually, we

have quite a few days in July AND August that are over 90 or

thereabouts. Hardly any at all thus far. Its almost too

chilly to swim. Water in lakes is not as warm as usual at this time

of year. Its been raining and raining and raining.

Evidence of global warming? I don't think so.

Not here in this definite part of the globe.

Ed Siceloff

At 12:30 PM 8/5/03 -0400, you wrote:

Britain bakes, Europe burns. Is

this proof of global warming?

 

By Michael McCarthy, Environment Editor

05 August 2003

If it isn't proof of global warming at last, it certainly looks like it.

As

much of Europe burns like a furnace and rivers run dry across the

continent, Britain is bracing itself for its own record

temperature.

Sometime tomorrow, in southern England or the Midlands, the mercury in

the

thermometer may pass 37.1C, which became the national record when

registered in Cheltenham on 3 August 1990. That centigrade peak

translates

as 98.8 Fahrenheit, so the remarkable figure for Britain of 99 or

even

100F- is on the cards.

" We reckon there's a 20 per cent chance it will happen, but in any

case

it's going to get very very close, " said Andy Yeatman of the Met

Office.

A record would be hugely significant - a three-figure Fahrenheit

temperature for the UK would be breaking psychological as well as

new

meteorological ground as it would give many people for the first time

the

perception that global warning is a real, not a theoretical phenomenon

-

and that it is happening to them.

If we do see a record, and possibly 100F, meteorological scientists

will

not directly attribute it to climate change - natural climate

variability

is too great for a single heat episode to be put down to global

warming.

But they will certainly say it is in line with what global warming

is

predicted to produce by complex mathematical models of the Earth's

climate

run on supercomputers.

And even if the record is not quite breached, Britain's weather

services

are agreed that tomorrow temperatures will be in the upper 30s

Centigrade

(or the high 90s Fahrenheit), certainly hitting 35-36C (95-97F). These

are

temperatures that, in the past, have been reached only a few times

per

century, and in anticipation, temporary speed restrictions were

imposed

yesterday on some of Britain's busiest rail routes for fear of rails

buckling in the heat. Long-distance Virgin routes from London to the

Midlands and the North will be most affected, with a 60mph limit imposed

by

Network Rail along the west coast main line from Euston to Crewe and

the

cross-country network.

Individuals should be equally careful. Don't plan anything strenuous,

put

suncream on the children and keep your bottled water handy. Britain

will

bake.

It has been coming for weeks. Across Europe, an unending episode of

unprecedented heat has this summer reduced major rivers to a trickle

in

Italy, turned southern France into an inferno of forest fires and

sent

people in Germany to their deaths from heatstroke. Only the Atlantic

westerly winds have kept the burning air from Britain - and now the

winds

are blowing from the south-east, and blowing the heat our way.

But what a contrast, in central and Eastern Europe, with just a year

ago.

Then the problems were not heat and drought - they were torrential

downpours and flooding.

As two depressions came together last August and dumped a deluge of

biblical proportions over southern Germany, the Czech Republic, Austria

and

Hungary, the region's great rivers burst their banks and drowned more

than

100 people amid millions of pounds worth of damage. The two jewel cities

of

Mitteleuropa, Dresden and Prague, were inundated as the Elbe and the

Vltava

overflowed, and only its high flood defence walls saved Budapest as

the

Danube rose nearly 10 metres. (This year it is, in places, only a

metre

deep).

However, Europe's record soaking summer of 2002 and its record

baking

summer of 2003 do not cancel each other out in terms of indicating

global

warming - just the opposite.

Both are in line with one of the key features predicted for climate

change,

if levels of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere, such as carbon

dioxide

(CO2), keep going up - more extreme weather occurs.

" They are both consistent with what the computer models of the

climate are

saying will become more frequent, if CO2 levels continue to rise, "

said

Simon Brown, who is in charge of researching extreme events at the

Met

Office's Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research.

Higher temperatures mean the air could hold more moisture, Dr Brown

said,

so even in a dry summer, when rain falls, it could be much

heavier.

Five weeks ago, in an unprecedented announcement, the World

Meteorological

Organisation signalled weather extremes were being recorded all across

the

world, from Switzerland's hottest-ever June to a record month for

tornadoes

in the US - and linked them to global warming directly.

No one can prove it. But as you swelter in the heat today, you

should

realise the evidence is stacking up.

Portugal

Portugal declared a state of national disaster yesterday after the

worst

spate of forest fires in more than two decades killed nine people,

torched

thousands of hectares of tinder-dry forest and destroyed scores of

homes,

writes Tim Gaynor.

The emergency declaration allowed more than ¬100m (£70m) in aid to

be

released. The funds will go to people who have lost their jobs and

homes,

farmers who have lost crops and livestock, and to local councils so

that

they can begin rebuilding infrastructure.

Emergency services in Lisbon said the fires, which came after weeks

without

rain, had hit 15 of the country's 18 regions. Almost 3,000

firefighters,

380 troops, 781 fire engines, 23 helicopters and 12 water-carrying

planes

were deployed to fight the blazes, which were fanned by strong

winds.

The wildfires were raging mostly in the central region near Castelo

Branco,

about 120 miles north-east of Lisbon, where the hills are covered with

pine

forests.

Rescue workers said nine people had died in the past week, including

a

fireman who was killed when a fire engine crashed. So far this year

there

have been about 1,700 wild fires in the country, destroying more

than

26,000 hectares of scrub and trees.

As the temperature rose to more than 40C, rail services were halted

and

roads were cut off in some regions.

SPAIN

Emergency services evacuated hundreds of residents from villages and

farmhouses in central and south-west Spain yesterday, writes Tim Gaynor,

as

high winds and record temperatures fanned summer fires into roaring

blazes

that scorched thousands of hectares of woodland.

Hundreds of firefighters and volunteers battled blazes in the province

of

Avila, north-west of Madrid, after a separate fire in the region of

Extremadura bordering Portugal, which destroyed 1,000 hectares

(2,470

acres) of woodland and led to the evacuation of 750 people, was

brought

under control.

Emergency services in Avila said the blaze was raging along a front

80

kilometres wide across 5,000 hectares of woodland.

Further fires, whipped up by strong winds and record temperatures above

40C

(104F) in much of the country, also burned over the weekend in the

western

Andalusian province of Huelva and in Ciudad Real in the central La

Mancha

plains. The temperatures in many towns and cities are the highest

since

records began.

FRANCE

As temperatures and ozone levels hit new peaks in France yesterday,

the

happiest beasts were 27 polar bears slurping mackerel-flavoured iced

lollies at a zoo near Paris, writes Alex Duval Smith. The worst off,

after

police enforced reduced speed limits to cut pollution, were

holidaymakers

stuck in their cars.

Meteo France said the coolest thing for humans to do, at least until

Thursday, would be to carry out important business at daybreak when

temperatures could fall as low as 20C. Yesterday, Clermont-Ferrand in

the

south recorded 43C at midday.

The weather forecasting centre said the combination of high

temperatures

and heavy traffic last weekend had compounded the pollution. Ozone

counts

reached peak levels, including in traditionally temperate cities such as

Le

Havre and Reims. In Provence, sulphur dioxide levels reached their

highest

rates this year.

While the bears at Thoiry Zoo near Versailles were cooling themselves

with

mackerel frozen into ice, efforts at France's nuclear power stations

to

keep temperatures down met with controversy.

The Green Party said Fessenheim nuclear power station in Alsace - where

a

temperature of 48C was recorded outside the reactor last week - should

be

immediately shut. The party denounced what it called the

" irresponsible

attitude " ' of Electricité de France in using a giant water cannon to

cool

the outer shell of the plant. The Greens also warned that the falling

level

of the Loire had increased the radioactivity of cooling water pumped

into

the river from the Villerest reactor.

After a weekend of record holiday traffic, police in Paris and

Bouches-du-Rhône reduced the motorway speed limit to 100kph

(60mph).

ITALY

In Italy the priests have asked their congregations to pray for

rain,

writes Hugh MacLeod.

With the river Po in the north nearly eight metres (24ft) below its

normal

levels and still dropping, and the national grid issuing a warning

of

possible blackouts, officials are on the point of declaring a state

of

emergency in the north.

Plans are being drawn up to pump water from Alpine lakes and dams into

the

river Po, which is at its lowest level for 100 years.

Temperatures in Rome have been hitting 35C for weeks, forcing tourists

to

cool off in the Trevi fountain - and pay a fine for doing so.

Agricultural groups say farmers have lost about ¬5bn worth of crops,

and

the price of some fruit and vegetables has gone up as a result of

the

drought.

In southern Italy, where lack of water has become a serious problem,

large

areas of scrubland were destroyed by fires raging in Calabria and

Salento

in the region of Apulia.

Fire broke out on Mount Vesuvius but it was reported to have been

extinguished at the weekend.

Italy's national grid, GRTN, said there may be power blackouts today due

to

high demand and problems with the supply of electricity. Italy has

suffered

power cuts in recent weeks as temperatures have soared.

A GRTN official said the grid estimated 2,000 megawatts of demand more

than

had been expected, and reduced capacity at some power plants may make

it

necessary to cut power.

GERMANY

This time last year the weather in Germany was the opposite of what it

is

now. August 2002 brought the worst floods to hit the country in more

than

100 years, writes Ruth Elkins.

A year on, Germany's media is remembering the tragedy, which cost 11

lives

and caused ¬9.1bn in damage. Now Germany swelters in up to 40C and 95

per

cent humidity. They are the highest temperatures in Germany since 1976,

the

German weather service says.

Dresden's train station, famously pictured under water at the height of

the

floods last year, is now a tangle of train lines on parched grass.

Temperatures in Berlin soared to over 35C at the weekend and the

city's

lakeside beaches were packed with people trying to cool off.

But Germany's heat wave has also brought its own disasters. " Berlin

cooks " ,

screamed the city's tabloid BZ's front page on yesterday. The

newspaper

reported the deaths of four Berliners due to the extreme heat,

including

two pensioners who died driving.

The paper also told of Berlin caretaker Bernd K who died after chasing

two

teenagers he suspected of trying to break into a flat. " The heat

wave, the

excitement, it was too much for the 49-year-old, " the paper

wrote.

Many Germans may hope for a Hitzefrei, or " heatwave off " , a

rule that

allows workers and schoolchildren to go home if temperatures rise too

high

and it becomes too uncomfortably, or dangerously, hot to stay at

their

desks.

REST OF EUROPE

Even Sweden hasn't escaped the blazes which have been sweeping Europe

for

the past week, reporting a series of bush fires along its

north-eastern

coast, writes Hugh Macleod.

Across the continent, gusting winds are fanning the flames through

tinder-dry forests and crops.

In Greece, dozens of holidaymakers and residents were evacuated early

last

week from properties near the Corinth canal as flames threatened the

area,

while the worst fires in 15 years burned outside the Croatian city

of

Dubrovnik.

In neighbouring Slovenia, about 500 firefighters were fighting the

biggest

fire in a decade near the Italian border.

Many parts of Switzerland have banned open fires completely while

the

levels of the Danube fell to their lowest in more than a century in

Serbia

and Montenegro, making the river unnavigable for barges.

4 August 2003 05:11

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[Guest guest]

Same thing

in New York state, too. Very cool summer –

tons of rain. I also have

family in New

Jersey, and

they say the same thing – bring some of that

global warming to us J

 

Carol

 

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Ed Siceloff

[siceloff]

 

 

On the other hand, Pennsylvania

" simmers. " If the coolness

continues, we are going to have a cold winter. Usually,

we have quite a few days in July AND August that are over 90 or

thereabouts. Hardly any at all thus

far. Its almost too chilly to

swim. Water in lakes is not as warm as usual

at this time of year. Its been raining

and raining and raining.

Evidence of global warming?

I don't think so. Not here in this definite part of the globe.

Ed Siceloff

 

[Guest guest]

Well there welcome to come here to Utah, we have been over 100 for weeks.

And send some of those cooler temps this way.

 

Gillian

 

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[Guest guest]

Sure would like to exchange some of our

cool for some of your hot. I’m

in Western NY, and right now it is 67 deg. and rainy. It’s been like this all summer so far

– averaging in the 70’s, very seldom into the 80’s. Actually, I really like

the temperature like this – but could do with a little less wet.

 

Carol

 

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essential for the health of people, pets and plants.

 

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Gillian Reed

[ggotts]

 

 

Well there welcome to come here to Utah, we have been over 100

for weeks.

And send some of those cooler temps

this way.

Gillian

 

[Guest guest]

Down here around Pittsburgh is only a little warmer. I went to a

school in western NY over by Olean, a long time ago. And it was

pretty wet. You get everything the that the Great Lakes have to

give.

Anyways, I'm doing all the breathing I can do while trying to

manufacture my own carbon dioxide. Just doing my small part to

cause some, if not global warming, at least some more warmth in my little

part of the world. What is this winter going to be like, I

wonder. Especially if I quit breathing all that carbon dioxide

out. With all the rain, and coolness, I wonder if we aren't headed

for an ice age. Which is what they were predicting when I was in

school, rather than this global warming.

ed

 

At 10:09 PM 8/5/03 -0400, you wrote:

Sure

would like to exchange some of our cool for some of your hot. Im in

Western NY, and right now it is 67 deg. and rainy. Its been like

this all summer so far averaging in the 70s, very seldom into the

80s. Actually, I really like the temperature like this but could do

with a little less wet.

 

 

 

Carol

 

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provide nutrients

 

essential for the health of

people, pets and plants.

 

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Gillian Reed

[ggotts]

 

Well there welcome to come here to Utah, we have been over 100

for weeks.

And send some of those

cooler temps this way.

Gillian

 

 

[Guest guest]

St. Bonaventure?

 

We had a frigid cold and looonnnng winter this past winter, practically

lasted for 7 months. Hope we don’t

have that again! We get all the “lake

effect snows” (2 years ago we had 7 feet in one week!), but in the summer we also get

the cooling breeze off the lakes, which is nice.

 

Carol

 

 

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Message-----

Ed Siceloff

[siceloff]

 

 

Down here around Pittsburgh

is only a little warmer. I went to a school in western NY over by Olean,

a long time ago. And it was pretty wet. You get everything the that

the Great Lakes have to give.

Anyways, I'm doing all the breathing I can do while trying to

manufacture my own carbon dioxide. Just doing my small part to cause

some, if not global warming, at least some more warmth in my little part of the

world. What is this winter going to be like, I wonder. Especially

if I quit breathing all that carbon dioxide out. With all the rain, and

coolness, I wonder if we aren't headed for an ice age. Which is what they

were predicting when I was in school, rather than this global warming.

 

ed

 

 

At 10:09 PM 8/5/03 -0400, you wrote:

 

 

 

Sure would like to

exchange some of our cool for some of your hot. Im in Western NY, and

right now it is 67 deg. and rainy. Its been like this all summer

so far averaging in the 70s, very seldom into the 80s. Actually, I really like

the temperature like this but could do with a little less wet.

 

 

 

Carol

 

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Gillian Reed [ggotts]

 

Well there welcome to come here

to Utah, we have been over

100 for weeks.

And send

some of those cooler temps this way.

Gillian

 

 

[Guest guest]

It is hotter there then here in Florida, although, we are getting alot of rain. We need it, but just not day after day after day )

 

Actually, Florida's pattern is rain in the afternoons, is finally back after seven years plus of drought ...

 

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