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> JIM & BECKY PAYNE wrote:

>

> After having my left leg amputated below the knee there was nothing

> that would stop the phantom pains. No pain killer would work. But

> something did work...magnets, So now nearly 5 years later when the

> pains start up magnets on that area are the only thing to give me

> relief. In case any of you do not know what phantom pains are like,

> for me it felt like something was dropped on my foot that was not

> there anymore or sometimes a stab over and over or ranges all the way

> down to a maddening itch. Imagine wanting to scratch a foot that is

> not there. The magnets do work for me and as a side note the doctors

> were amazed how fast the stump healed up. I slept on a magnet pad, I

> believe that had a lot to do with it. I know the article warned

> against using magnets around the head, but my wife who suffers from

> miagraines uses them that way for relief.

> Jim Payne

 

I'm sorry you had to go through all of that, Jim. I had phantom pain

described to me by a doctor that said the nerves that are severed are

trying to reach out and connect with the missing limb. It takes a long

time to heal those nerves. I had constant and awful pain after waking up

from a surgery. It would not go away night or day. It was driving me

crazy. I wish I'd known about magnets then.

 

I finally found a doctor who gave me a solution to the awful pain. He

severed the nerve going to my foot that had scar tissue surrounding that

nerve. He then relocated the end of the nerve back up to my calf. I

still had a lot of pain till that nerve healed. Now if I get pain in my

foot it usually is set off by bumping the calf against something. The

nerve still thinks it's connected to the foot. But this is rare now.

 

DL

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I had used magnetic insoles for my

collapsing arches in my feet. That was while I was running on concrete

floors at work for 8 hours a day. Very painful. Not like a foot

that is no longer there though. Anyways, at the time, I got a cortisone

shot in both feet. I didn’t like that. Not because of pain in

the heel from the shot, but because I don’t like to put their cortisone

in me. And the foot doctor recommended making orthopedic arches for my

shoes.

Well, those got made, I reckon,

incorrectly. After I had them, I felt like I was walking/running around

on a roll of quarters all the time. 8 hours later my feet would be

killing me from them. So, they didn’t last long. Then a friend of

mine told me about the magnetic insoles. I bought a couple pairs, and

just a matter of a day later, all the pain I had was gone. That was the

only thing different, so I give those magnetic insoles all the credit. I

still sleep on the magnetic pad I got from the same company. I don’t

like their pillows though. Too much support for the head. And they

were only comfortable in one position. I sleep in multiple positions, not

one.

 

 

JIM & BECKY PAYNE

[rebecca.payne]

Thursday, August 21, 2003

8:56 AM

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After having my left leg amputated

below the knee there was nothing that would stop the phantom pains. No pain

killer would work. But something did work...magnets, So now nearly 5 years

later when the pains start up magnets on that area are the only thing to give

me relief. In case any of you do not know what phantom pains are like, for me

it felt like something was dropped on my foot that was not there anymore or

sometimes a stab over and over or ranges all the way down to a maddening itch.

Imagine wanting to scratch a foot that is not there. The magnets do work for me

and as a side note the doctors were amazed how fast the stump healed up. I

slept on a magnet pad, I believe that had a lot to do with it. I know the

article warned against using magnets around the head, but my wife who suffers

from miagraines uses them that way for relief.

 

 

Jim Payne

 

 

 

 

 

 

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After having my left leg amputated below the knee there was nothing that would stop the phantom pains. No pain killer would work. But something did work...magnets, So now nearly 5 years later when the pains start up magnets on that area are the only thing to give me relief. In case any of you do not know what phantom pains are like, for me it felt like something was dropped on my foot that was not there anymore or sometimes a stab over and over or ranges all the way down to a maddening itch. Imagine wanting to scratch a foot that is not there. The magnets do work for me and as a side note the doctors were amazed how fast the stump healed up. I slept on a magnet pad, I believe that had a lot to do with it. I know the article warned against using magnets around the head, but my wife who suffers from miagraines uses them that way for relief.

Jim Payne

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Pain is your body's way of saying that something is wrong. Before you

just turn off the pain, with magnets or anything else, it is a good idea

to find out what is causing the pain.

 

Your body senses pain in many strange ways. Often the pain is referred

to a remote area; Where it hurts is not always the problem area. For

example, trigger points in your arm may refer pain to your wrist (how

many people who have had needless carpal tunnel surgery had simple

trigger points).

 

Surgery and medication should be for emergency and critical situations,

not a LONG TERM solution.

 

You might want to get a copy of " Pain Free in 6 Weeks " by Dr Sherry Rogers.

--

Donald E. Jacobs

Registered Massage Therapist

Macrobiotic Counselor

Reiki Practitioner

Professional Speaker

 

>

> > JIM & BECKY PAYNE wrote:

> >

> > After having my left leg amputated below the knee there was nothing

> > that would stop the phantom pains. No pain killer would work. But

> > something did work...magnets, So now nearly 5 years later when the

> > pains start up magnets on that area are the only thing to give me

> > relief. In case any of you do not know what phantom pains are like,

> > for me it felt like something was dropped on my foot that was not

> > there anymore or sometimes a stab over and over or ranges all the way

> > down to a maddening itch. Imagine wanting to scratch a foot that is

> > not there. The magnets do work for me and as a side note the doctors

> > were amazed how fast the stump healed up. I slept on a magnet pad, I

> > believe that had a lot to do with it. I know the article warned

> > against using magnets around the head, but my wife who suffers from

> > miagraines uses them that way for relief.

> > Jim Payne

>

> I'm sorry you had to go through all of that, Jim. I had phantom pain

> described to me by a doctor that said the nerves that are severed are

> trying to reach out and connect with the missing limb. It takes a long

> time to heal those nerves. I had constant and awful pain after waking up

> from a surgery. It would not go away night or day. It was driving me

> crazy. I wish I'd known about magnets then.

>

> I finally found a doctor who gave me a solution to the awful pain. He

> severed the nerve going to my foot that had scar tissue surrounding that

> nerve. He then relocated the end of the nerve back up to my calf. I

> still had a lot of pain till that nerve healed. Now if I get pain in my

> foot it usually is set off by bumping the calf against something. The

> nerve still thinks it's connected to the foot. But this is rare now.

>

> DL

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I agree with all of this Donald.  For me,

it was the job of running around on concrete.  Combined with all the rest of

life’s (including my own physical body) varying circumstances.  I sought

out the podiatrist and he recommended certain of his possible solutions.  I did

know what the solution was.  His were not a part of it.  He had wanted me to do

the arches thing as well as continuing cortisone shots.  After I used the

magnetic insoles, I continued to run on concrete floors.  The arches ached again

only after the insoles wore out.  But never as bad as the first time again. The

magnetic solution was better than the health benefit solutions of arches,

cortisone shots, and cut the plantarfascia tendon.  So, out of immediate

possibilities I chose to do the magnets, and was quite happy that I did.  About

18 months later the knees started aching. 

  Same thing.  No magnets this time.  Already

slept on the pad.  But that is supposed to be like sleeping on the ground in

terms of the magnetic field it puts out.  But that didn’t stop anything. 

 

  The doctor said that I had arthritis in

the knees.  Here is 800 mg of ibuprofen.  La de dah.  I’m not going to

use that. 

  Change of lifestyle is the key.  My kids

are basically raised and I don’t have to have nearly the money, although

I do, to be required to work that job.  I quit.  No more concrete floors,

except to go into a store of some sort or another. 

  But, most inflammatory diseases are

signs of the wrong nourishment for one’s own body.  There are a number of

bodily processes that when given the correct nutrition, either through

supplementing or actually eating of the correct foods for yourself, that get

rid of inflammation.  And if one works with oneself, those body processes are

actually such that inflammation does go away, and the parts of yourself that

are inflamed do not continue to get inflamed.

  So there are all sorts of herbs

available that do this.  Most of what you see though are in a format like a

turmeric standardized to a certain percentage of curcumin.  As if the curcumin

is the only part of the plant that works in the body and does its job.  (I

might add that the same thing is wrong with all the ma huang products that get

standardized to a certain level of ephedrine or pseudoephredrine, from 15% to

24%, and cause all the physiological side effects that ma huang just brewed as

a tea does not have, when imbibed by the person who has the right body to be

able to make use of it.)

  There are also companies out there who

use whole herbs in the making of their products and don’t standardize any

one particular chemical to a certain percentage within their products.  Used

much as traditional cultures used the herb.  This is one of favored ways to use

herbs, other than as teas, or infusions. 

  I’ve just recently learned that

nitric oxide is also a very potent anti-inflammatory.  You don’t eat it

or drink it.  It is a chemical your body makes as a part of all the various

cells of your body just doing their normal thing.  But it is an anti-flammatory

in muscle tissue.  The amino acid arginine stimulates it.  So, don’t

everybody with the various inflammatory diseases go out and buy arginine.  Your

body can produce too much nitric oxide and then it starts to smother the

processes going in various cellular structures.  Defeating the purpose.  The

amount of nitric oxide your body is utilizing/creating is measurable in a urine

test through measuring nitrates. 

 But, again, the stress here is on the

proper diet for the individual, nutrition.  Perhaps, specific nutrients in the

form of supplements, for people who can’t make the decision to eat

correctly, or on an emergency basis until diet does work, or one can reach the

knowledge about who to use one’s diet to make it work for oneself.

  I utilized magnetism, and supplements

while working in the factory.  But knowing that that was both expensive, and

not really getting at the real problem.  I ate a certain way while working at

the factory as well.  Life got centered around working at the factory.  And

that is the way it is for many of us.  The job creates the center of one’s

life.  That is not necessarily the way that it should be unless the “job”

can be a proper place to center at.

 

Ed

 

 

Donald E. Jacobs

[donald.jacobs6]

Thursday, August 21, 2003

9:43 AM

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Re:

magbets

 

Pain is your body's way of saying that something is

wrong. Before you

just turn off the pain, with magnets or anything

else, it is a good idea

to find out what is causing the pain.

 

Your body senses pain in many strange ways. Often

the pain is referred

to a remote area; Where it hurts is not always the

problem area. For

example, trigger points in your arm may refer pain

to your wrist (how

many people who have had needless carpal tunnel

surgery had simple

trigger points).

 

Surgery and medication should be for emergency and

critical situations,

not a LONG TERM solution.

 

You might want to get a copy of " Pain Free in

6 Weeks " by Dr Sherry Rogers.

--

Donald E. Jacobs

Registered Massage Therapist

Macrobiotic Counselor

Reiki Practitioner

Professional Speaker

 

>

> > JIM & BECKY PAYNE wrote:

> >

> > After having my left leg amputated below

the knee there was nothing

> > that would stop the phantom pains. No

pain killer would work. But

> > something did work...magnets, So now

nearly 5 years later when the

> > pains start up magnets on that area are

the only thing to give me

> > relief. In case any of you do not know

what phantom pains are like,

> > for me it felt like something was

dropped on my foot that was not

> > there anymore or sometimes a stab over

and over or ranges all the way

> > down to a maddening itch. Imagine

wanting to scratch a foot that is

> > not there. The magnets do work for me

and as a side note the doctors

> > were amazed how fast the stump healed

up. I slept on a magnet pad, I

> > believe that had a lot to do with it. I

know the article warned

> > against using magnets around the head,

but my wife who suffers from

> > miagraines uses them that way for

relief.

> > Jim Payne

>

> I'm sorry you had to go through all of that,

Jim. I had phantom pain

> described to me by a doctor that said the

nerves that are severed are

> trying to reach out and connect with the

missing limb. It takes a long

> time to heal those nerves. I had constant and

awful pain after waking up

> from a surgery. It would not go away night or

day. It was driving me

> crazy. I wish I'd known about magnets then.

>

> I finally found a doctor who gave me a

solution to the awful pain. He

> severed the nerve going to my foot that had

scar tissue surrounding that

> nerve. He then relocated the end of the nerve

back up to my calf. I

> still had a lot of pain till that nerve

healed. Now if I get pain in my

> foot it usually is set off by bumping the

calf against something. The

> nerve still thinks it's connected to the foot.

But this is rare now.

>

> DL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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