Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 (Why don't they make sure she is at least 60 as well, with a womb transplant too, may as well go the whole hog.) First cloned human embryo is ready to implant in surrogate mother, scientist claims By Charles Arthur Technology Editor 16 September 2003 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=443860 An American scientist claims to have made the world's first cloned human embryo and says he will implant it in a surrogate mother later this year. Dr Panyiotis Zavos, a fertility specialist at the University of Kentucky, also said he had created hybrid embryos by putting human DNA into " emptied " cows' eggs. He insisted that this was not in poor taste but was done as a scientific model for future human cloning efforts. But the claim met scepticism from other scientists, who pointed out that the work had not been published in scientific journals where others could verify the procedures and data. He joins a burgeoning group who have claimed to have made cloned embryos or even humans. Dr Severino Antinori and the Raelian cult made separate claims last year but neither has been verified. Dr Zavos said at a meeting in London yesterday that he created the cloned embryo earlier this year with cells taken from a woman. " We attempted to transfer [implant] it in July but our surrogate [mother] developed complications and we had to postpone, " he said. " But we will try again this year. " The embryo was at an early stage, where it had only grown to about eight cells, and had been kept frozen - as is commonly done with embryos for test- tube babies - until the surrogate was ready to receive it. The experiment is being done in a secret location outside the US and Europe, which outlaw human cloning for reproduction. Some sources speculated that Dr Zavos, a Cypriot by birth, may be doing the work in the Middle East or even China. But Dr Jackie O'Connell of Cambridge University expressed doubts over the research and its chances of success if it were true. " The major problem with cloning is that many embryos survive to the blastocyst stage, of 128 cells, but then there's a massive rate of attrition. Most implanted cloned embryos never reach maturity. " Dr Zavos said that the purpose of his cows' egg experiment was to understand the mechanisms of cell developments and cloning methods. " We aren't creating humans by putting DNA into bovine eggs, " he said. " We aren't interested in creating monsters. " Dr Zavos said that he chose not to submit his work to the best-known scientific journals, Science and Nature, because he preferred to be published in journals read by reproductive scientists. His latest work on the bovine-human hybrid is to be published in an online peer-reviewed journal called Reproductive Biology Medicine. 17 September 2003 01:31 Search this site: Printable Story ---------- ---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 I get so disgusted with reports like this – women past their child-bearing years having children. I think there must have been a reason why the good Lord made women NOT able to conceive after menopause. Ok women – who in their right mind would WANT to take care of a baby when you’re 60 years old?????? Carol ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 I agree with you, Carol. I am an older mama - I am 41 and have a 4 month old. Although in some respects I am more patient than I was when I was younger, I am definitely more tired. I haven't closed the door entirely on having more children, but it isn't too likely. I couldn't imagine being much older than this and having babies. Even in optimum help I don't see how a 60 year old could keep up with a little one. And imagine an almost 80 year old having to put up with a teenager! ~Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 How about adding human growth hormone to your “diet” in order to feel young again. Or putting in the stuff to stimulate its production in your body. Another hormone therapy? How do those types of things relate to the change of hormone levels that occurs as we age. What would be the thoughts on aging and using the kind of things to put the hormone levels back to what they were when we were younger. My own thought is that if we do that through the various supplements that supposedly stimulate their production, or the hormones themselves we could have some unforeseen consequences. Ed ky_wendylynn [ky_wendylynn] Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:10 AM To: Re: First cloned human embryo is ready to implant in surrogate mother I agree with you, Carol. I am an older mama - I am 41 and have a 4 month old. Although in some respects I am more patient than I was when I was younger, I am definitely more tired. I haven't closed the door entirely on having more children, but it isn't too likely. I couldn't imagine being much older than this and having babies. Even in optimum help I don't see how a 60 year old could keep up with a little one. And imagine an almost 80 year old having to put up with a teenager! ~Wendy «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» NATIONWIDE DENTAL BENEFITS PACKAGE PLUS SAVE UP TO 80% on DENTAL, PRESCRIPTIONS DRUGS, GLASSES, CONTACTS, VISION CARE, & CHIROPRACTIC. $11.95 For Single or $19.95 For an entire household per month! Immediate Coverage * No Waiting Period Pre-existing Covered * No Limit on Benefits http://www.mybenefitsplus.com/MMerrill/ Email: MEM121 «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» § - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! § Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Hi Wendy – Or having that teenager, graduating from high school, being asked from a friend “oh, I see you brought your great grandparents with you?” I almost gagged when I read that story about Joan London with her brand new twins. Although she didn’t HAVE the babies, she still has to raise them. Well, on second thought – I guess she won’t raise them – she’ll have nannies. But that also involved a surrogate mother, although not old – I just think it is wrong wrong wrong!! Carol -----Original Message----- ky_wendylynn [ky_wendylynn] I agree with you, Carol. I am an older mama - I am 41 and have a 4 month old. Although in some respects I am more patient than I was when I was younger, I am definitely more tired. I haven't closed the door entirely on having more children, but it isn't too likely. I couldn't imagine being much older than this and having babies. Even in optimum help I don't see how a 60 year old could keep up with a little one. And imagine an almost 80 year old having to put up with a teenager! ~Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Hi Wendy? Was it hard getting pregnant, or was your baby a surprise. I am 42 and sort of would like a baby...I have a 20 year old and a 15 year old, so I have no intentions of seeing any type of specalist about it since I already have 2, but sometimes I think another baby would be nice, it it happened naturally. A lady at my church had a baby this year and she is 42..her baby was a big surprise to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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