Duncan Crow's on Primal Defense probiotic

October 7, 2003

I agree. The use of ALL supplements should be short term and should not

make up for a poor lifestyle.

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Donald E. Jacobs

Registered Massage Therapist

Macrobiotic Counselor

Reiki Practitioner

Professional Speaker

> Believe it or not, although I support Primal Defense purely because

> it seems to produce short-term results, I don't believe it to be

> the best product for the job of culturing the bowel bacteria.

>

> The reason I don't believe it is is the solution to bowel problems

> is that PD contains several soil based and a couple of

> animal bowel bacteria. Although the soil based and the friendly

> yeast quickly overpopulate and overwhelm bad bowel bacteria (and

> probably good and neutral bacteria too, short-term) they are

> essentially transient populations; they diasppear as the proper

> bacteria starts to fluorish as it gets a chance to outcompete.

> Using animal bacteria that are meant to be more permanent but are

> not native to humans is not well-studied, and the Gastroenterology

> Journal expresses concern about the wisdom of such a move.

>

> Regardless of this wisdom or lack of it, the bottom line is that a

> good portion of the PD mix is transient and not at all useful in

> the long term. And people who use it long term find this when they

> stop taking it and experience a relapse.

>

> So what I recommend is more of a permanent fix. Use Primal Defense

> temporarily if you feel it's right for you, and after a month or

> two, switch to a cheaper but more useful, natural formula of human

> probiotics such as one containing several bifidobacteria strains

> and a few lactobacilli strains, and feed it inulin to establish a

> natural bowel culture. That's it; there can be eubacteria or a

> strain of staphylococcus in it, or special breeds of organisms you

> can use depending on whether you're fighting candida, such as DDS-1

> and etc... anyway I've read an awful lot of the literature now, and

> getting to normal evolutionary organisms is most desireable in my

> view.

>

> Here's a short list of a few good potent brands; there are many

> others I'm sure:

> http://www.consumerlab.com/results/probiotics.asp

>

> Don't forget the inulin. In using it we again validate the

> approach, just as they did in medieval times, ancient Greece, and

> ancient China. If interest justifies the bother with the product,

> several companies will undoubtably start to offer the sugar- and

> FOS-free type properly packaged and labelled (instead of in an

> unlabelled ziploc bag hehe). Meanwhile, it's being put into foods

> on an industrial level as a sugar and fat replacer and thickener.

>

> Here's the science on inulin. This is the only location for this

> exhausive work online:

> http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/inulin_review.html

>

> Duncan Crow

October 7, 2003

Are you advising people to use Vitamin C, or E, or A, or the B complex,

etc., " short term? " If I lived under ideal circumstances, in a perfectly

unpolluted environment, with perfect soil in which to grow perfect plant

foods, and was never exposed to excess stresses, and had no illnesses or

physical shortcomings, I'm still not sure I wouldn't benefit from

supplements.

Their seems to be a knee-jerk suspicion of any nutrient that doesn't enter

our body as part of a whole food. I find this a foolish reaction. I take

it for granted that most nutrients are best obtained in foods, but that

doesn't mean that nutritional extracts which are encapsulated or tableted

are worthless. It isn't all or nothing. The extracted nutrients are " less "

potent.

I have " never " known any adult that considered nutritional supplements as a

substitute for natural foods. People understand what the word " supplement "

means.

As for the folly of using supplements in an effort to " make up for a poor

lifestyle, " I must disagree. If a person insists on living on junk foods,

they have far " more " to gain from using supplements.

I do think that people ought to research the progress of the science of

nutritional supplementation, looking for the best quality and forms of the

nutrients they use, as well as dropping the more exotic and expensive

products from their daily supplements regimen, as research shows them to be

of little or no value, and substituting products of better quality and

effectiveness.

JP

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" Donald E. Jacobs " <donald.jacobs6

Monday, October 06, 2003 8:55 PM

Re: Duncan Crow's on Primal Defense probiotic