Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 " Allen Darman " Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:51:25 -0000 Nutrients for inhibition, sleep, hypomania w/note to Julia Ross Dear group: I recently posted the following to another egroup. I thought that perhaps some in this group might find this post of interest. Allen Dear group: I wrote the following post to a person in our sister egroup safeharbor2 that had just purchased some GABA in which to try for help with sleep. Although this material is a bit redundant to older posts that I have made to this group, I thought some might find it interesting. Specifically for Julia Ross: I can't thank you enough for your book " The Mood Cure " . In my opinion it is the first published book that that contains solid advice on which amino acids to use for inhibition, as well as contains much other excellent material as well. Amino acids for inhibition are a key part of the equation for many persons that are struggling with benzo addiction, sleep issues, anxiety, hypomania, and the like. My only suggestion to you in regard to using nutrients for inhibition is to trial the nutrient combination of 500 mg. (or perhaps 1000 mg. for some) of L-carnitine in the morning and 3 to 5 capsules of phosphatidyl choline (Solgar's sells phos chol caps) during the day (this can be taken in divided doses or all at once). This nutrient combination can be unparalleled in regard to slowing down the spontaneous rate of neuronal firing in the brain, just like lithium, but without any negative side effects whatsoever. It's effect on me when I first discovered this nutrient combination in the fall of 1997 was absolutely profound. I believe that this nutrient combination of carnitine and phosphatidyl choline is a " must worthy trial " in almost any person that is hyperactive, talks louder than normal, talks faster than normal, cannot stay focused on one task, is bipolar, is anxious, etc. I do admit that there may be other nutrient factors involved for this nutrient combination to work, but as any chemically compromised person ought to be taking nearly the entire vitamin and mineral range for the most part, these cofactors should be already covered. Sincerely, Allen Darman Dear (xxx) and the group: Try adding taurine to the GABA. Taurine is generally more inhibitory than GABA for most. If and/or when this combination of amino acids helps you, then try adding tryptophan to it. Tryptophan can swing both ways... for some persons it is excitatory, and for some it is inhibitory. Only you can determine this yourself (via trial and error). Glycine is also a known inhibitor as well. Glycine is a rather weak inhibitor for me, but I have used it in combination with tryptophan, taurine, and GABA for sleep for years with great success. Margot Kidder once stated that 1000 mg. each of tryptopan, taurine, and GABA helped her before bedtime. I commonly use 1500 mg. to 2000 mg. of each of these aminos, as 1000 mg. is often not enough of each of these inhibitory nutrients for me. Dosage is an individual issue, but this is the general ballgame (1000 mg. to 2000 mg.) that works for many. I do suggest that you read Julia Ross's book " The Mood Cure " as well. Ms. Ross also suggests tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and glycine for inhibition as well. The three amino acids of tryptophan, taurine, and GABA helped me to resolve an 18 month addiction to Klonopin for sleep in the fall of 1997. I got off Klonopin in less than a month quite easily, and was getting the best sleep of my entire adult life way back in September of 1997. This has continued since. I have easily taken 1200 or more doses of these three amino acids since 1997, along with some other nutrient inhibitors.... however these three amino acids represent the heart of what I am doing. I have also played quite a bit with histidine as an inhibitor in the past few years, and it clearly helps me, but for some persons it may not help them, if not may actually hurt them (some persons are already too high in histamine, and histidine is a key nutrient precursor to histamine, an allergic mediator). I also commonly take methionine with my bedtime nutrient regime as well. Methionine is neutral in regard to inhibition/excitation for me, but I take it for other reasons. The calming minerals of calcium and magnesium are often helpful in combination with inhibitory amino acids before bedtime as well. Vitamin D is needed for calcium absorption. In addition to these inhibitory amino acids and minerals, I have found that 3 to 5 capsules (I use Solgar caps, they are fairly cheap) of phosphatidyl choline really help me to slow down as well. For some reason that I still don't understand, I need to take 500 mg. of L-carnitine in the morning for this phos chol supplementation to work for me. This carnitine and phos chol combination acts just like lithium for me... it has a really profound effect in (1) slowing down " my brain speed " , (2) lowering the volume of my speech, and (3) slowing down my speech rate as well. The source www.jomarlabs.com really cuts down on the cost of taurine, GABA, glycine, and carnitine vs. what you would pay in a health food store. I highly recommend this source for all amino acids except glutamine, which can be purchased much cheaper elsewhere (a whole lb. can be bought elsewhere for under $35.), and tryptophan, which they do not carry. I sincerely hope that this helps. 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Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Dear group: I recently posted the following to another egroup. I thought that perhaps some in this group might find this post of interest. Allen Dear group: I wrote the following post to a person in our sister egroup safeharbor2 that had just purchased some GABA in which to try for help with sleep. Although this material is a bit redundant to older posts that I have made to this group, I thought some might find it interesting. Specifically for Julia Ross: I can't thank you enough for your book " The Mood Cure " . In my opinion it is the first published book that that contains solid advice on which amino acids to use for inhibition, as well as contains much other excellent material as well. Amino acids for inhibition are a key part of the equation for many persons that are struggling with benzo addiction, sleep issues, anxiety, hypomania, and the like. My only suggestion to you in regard to using nutrients for inhibition is to trial the nutrient combination of 500 mg. (or perhaps 1000 mg. for some) of L-carnitine in the morning and 3 to 5 capsules of phosphatidyl choline (Solgar's sells phos chol caps) during the day (this can be taken in divided doses or all at once). This nutrient combination can be unparalleled in regard to slowing down the spontaneous rate of neuronal firing in the brain, just like lithium, but without any negative side effects whatsoever. It's effect on me when I first discovered this nutrient combination in the fall of 1997 was absolutely profound. I believe that this nutrient combination of carnitine and phosphatidyl choline is a " must worthy trial " in almost any person that is hyperactive, talks louder than normal, talks faster than normal, cannot stay focused on one task, is bipolar, is anxious, etc. I do admit that there may be other nutrient factors involved for this nutrient combination to work, but as any chemically compromised person ought to be taking nearly the entire vitamin and mineral range for the most part, these cofactors should be already covered. Sincerely, Allen Darman Dear (xxx) and the group: Try adding taurine to the GABA. Taurine is generally more inhibitory than GABA for most. If and/or when this combination of amino acids helps you, then try adding tryptophan to it. Tryptophan can swing both ways... for some persons it is excitatory, and for some it is inhibitory. Only you can determine this yourself (via trial and error). Glycine is also a known inhibitor as well. Glycine is a rather weak inhibitor for me, but I have used it in combination with tryptophan, taurine, and GABA for sleep for years with great success. Margot Kidder once stated that 1000 mg. each of tryptopan, taurine, and GABA helped her before bedtime. I commonly use 1500 mg. to 2000 mg. of each of these aminos, as 1000 mg. is often not enough of each of these inhibitory nutrients for me. Dosage is an individual issue, but this is the general ballgame (1000 mg. to 2000 mg.) that works for many. I do suggest that you read Julia Ross's book " The Mood Cure " as well. Ms. Ross also suggests tryptophan, taurine, GABA, and glycine for inhibition as well. The three amino acids of tryptophan, taurine, and GABA helped me to resolve an 18 month addiction to Klonopin for sleep in the fall of 1997. I got off Klonopin in less than a month quite easily, and was getting the best sleep of my entire adult life way back in September of 1997. This has continued since. I have easily taken 1200 or more doses of these three amino acids since 1997, along with some other nutrient inhibitors.... however these three amino acids represent the heart of what I am doing. I have also played quite a bit with histidine as an inhibitor in the past few years, and it clearly helps me, but for some persons it may not help them, if not may actually hurt them (some persons are already too high in histamine, and histidine is a key nutrient precursor to histamine, an allergic mediator). I also commonly take methionine with my bedtime nutrient regime as well. Methionine is neutral in regard to inhibition/excitation for me, but I take it for other reasons. The calming minerals of calcium and magnesium are often helpful in combination with inhibitory amino acids before bedtime as well. Vitamin D is needed for calcium absorption. In addition to these inhibitory amino acids and minerals, I have found that 3 to 5 capsules (I use Solgar caps, they are fairly cheap) of phosphatidyl choline really help me to slow down as well. For some reason that I still don't understand, I need to take 500 mg. of L-carnitine in the morning for this phos chol supplementation to work for me. This carnitine and phos chol combination acts just like lithium for me... it has a really profound effect in (1) slowing down " my brain speed " , (2) lowering the volume of my speech, and (3) slowing down my speech rate as well. The source www.jomarlabs.com really cuts down on the cost of taurine, GABA, glycine, and carnitine vs. what you would pay in a health food store. I highly recommend this source for all amino acids except glutamine, which can be purchased much cheaper elsewhere (a whole lb. can be bought elsewhere for under $35.), and tryptophan, which they do not carry. I sincerely hope that this helps. 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