Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 JoAnn On that list of B17 foods, did you purposely leave off blue berries? Also, should there be a comma between buckwheat and currants or is there a buckwheat currant I don't know about? Thanks, Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Dear Group, At the last that I had heard, there were about 1700 plants that had been identified as having this substance. Of course most are not in the modern fast food/refined diets. Nor, are most now in most food animal diets either. There is a lot on B-17 (Laetrile) in our archives and a lot on our links page. Frank Gettingwell , " Claire West " <clairewest1@e...> wrote: > JoAnn > > On that list of B17 foods, did you purposely leave off blue berries? Also, should there be a comma between buckwheat and currants or is there a buckwheat currant I don't know about? > > Thanks, > > Claire > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 ---Claire, Actually the source I derived the list from, didn't include blueberries. Also, I believe there is a buckwheat currant Claire. I'll do a search and see what I can some up with for you. Apparently black raspberries is one of the best sources according to some recent info. Very interesting! " Raspberries contain many vitamins, minerals, plant compounds and antioxidants known as anthocyanins that may protect against cancer. According to a recent research study reported by Cancer Research 2001;61:6112-6119, rats fed diets of 5% to 10% black raspberries saw the number of esophageal tumors decrease by 43% to 62%. A diet containing 5% black raspberries was more effective than a diet containing 10% black raspberries. Research reported in the journal Nutrition and Cancer in May 2002 shows black raspberries may also thwart colon cancer. Black raspberries are rich in antioxidants, thought to have even more cancer-preventing properties than blueberries and strawberries. " Some people are under the impression that laetrile is found only in apricot pits, however there are so many others as Frank mentioned! JoAnn Guest mrsjoguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html In Gettingwell , " Claire West " <clairewest1@e...> wrote: > JoAnn > > On that list of B17 foods, did you purposely leave off blue berries? Also, should there be a comma between buckwheat and currants or is there a buckwheat currant I don't know about? > > Thanks, > > Claire > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Hi JoAnn, <A diet containing 5% black raspberries was more effective than a diet containing 10% black raspberries. Now that sounds odd. <Black raspberries are rich in antioxidants, thought to have even more cancer-preventing properties than blueberries and strawberries. " Two reasons I've been asking about blueberries: 1) I dislike the seeds in black raspberries and can't find an organic variety and 2) I can find blueberries that, although frozen, are not only organic, they're wild--which means they are much darker than the light blue ones in the supermarket. In fact, they're almost black. Thanks for your kelp article. I haven't been able to find the Norwegian kelp in anything except tablet form--unless it's made for pets (maybe just as good but still gives me pause). Do you have a product/company to recommend? Thanks, Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Bluberries have more than just anti cancer properties. But if it's anti cancer stuff you're looking for you should be aware of this: New substance called MGN-3 for cancer prevention/cure. Interesting that it's derived from rice bran and shittake mushroom. Read section called: " New Research On MGN3 " at: http://www.publishedresearch.com rusty - " Claire West " <clairewest1 Sunday, February 02, 2003 6:18 PM Re: Re: Laetrile: B-17 & Cancer > Hi JoAnn, > > <A diet containing 5% black raspberries was more effective than a diet > containing 10% black raspberries. > > Now that sounds odd. > > <Black raspberries are rich in antioxidants, > thought to have even more cancer-preventing properties than > blueberries and strawberries. " > > Two reasons I've been asking about blueberries: 1) I dislike the seeds in black raspberries and can't find an organic variety and 2) I can find blueberries that, although frozen, are not only organic, they're wild--which means they are much darker than the light blue ones in the supermarket. In fact, they're almost black. > > Thanks for your kelp article. I haven't been able to find the Norwegian kelp in anything except tablet form--unless it's made for pets (maybe just as good but still gives me pause). Do you have a product/company to recommend? > > Thanks, > > Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Gettingwell , " Claire West " <clairewest1@e...> wrote: > Hi JoAnn, > > <A diet containing 5% black raspberries was more effective than a diet > containing 10% black raspberries. > > Now that sounds odd. > > <Black raspberries are rich in antioxidants, > thought to have even more cancer-preventing properties than > blueberries and strawberries. " > > Two reasons I've been asking about blueberries: 1) I dislike the seeds in black raspberries and can't find an organic variety and 2) I can find blueberries that, although frozen, are not only organic, they're wild--which means they are much darker than the light blue ones in the supermarket. In fact, they're almost black. > > Thanks for your kelp article. I haven't been able to find the Norwegian kelp in anything except tablet form--unless it's made for pets (maybe just as good but still gives me pause). Do you have a product/company to recommend? > Thanks, > Claire NOW foods online offers a Norwegian kelp in powder form and if you are unable to tolerate it in tablet form, this may provide a good alternative. " Nature's Life " has the Atlantic Kelp *granules* for a rather nominal price, also " World Organics " offers it in liquid form, however I find that I prefer Norwegian kelp over the others so I usually purchase NOW brand. I trust NOW brand completely. Seeds do pose quite a problem for some people, especially those with diverticulosis (sp?) so in my opinion if you have a history of digestive problems it would be wise to use the organic blueberries instead. Blueberries are definitely my favorite also. :-) The lady who passed on the article to me had it written up for another group. Could it be that smaller portions provide us with more of the benefits? Sometimes less is best. Just a thought anyway. <g> JoAnn Guest mrsjoguest Friendsforhealthnaturally ' DietaryTipsForHBP http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html http://www.NOWfoods.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 - <angelprincessjo Monday, February 03, 2003 1:06 PM Re: Laetrile: B-17 & Cancer > Seeds do pose quite a problem for some people, especially those with > diverticulosis (sp?) so in my opinion if you have a history of > digestive problems it would be wise to use the organic blueberries > instead. > Blueberries are definitely my favorite also. :-) The lady who passed > on the article to me had it written up for another group. Could it be > that smaller portions provide us with more of the benefits? Sometimes > less is best. Just a thought anyway. <g> > > JoAnn Guest I use berries in my vitamix blender. The vitamix actually pulverizes all seeds, even strawberry seeds which releases nutrition which otherwise just passes thru undigested. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Laetrile and Cancer JoAnn Guest I have come to believe that a tumor is only the manifestation of cancer, it is not THE cancer. Cancer starts a very long time before a tumor or mass manifests itself. Laetrile or vitamin B17. We used to eat foods high in this vitamin; I will list the foods later, but we've gotten away from them. President Nixon investigated laetrile. He had the Surgeon General conduct a study. The most well known, highly respected cancer researcher in the country was given this task. All tests done up to this time on laetrile were done by companies who would not have been as financially stable if a natural substance worked on cancer as opposed to their chemo drugs. Therefore, the tests were done in manners that negated vitamin b17's value. However in the report given by the Dr. researcher Nixon's attorney general hired stated that it does indeed help the body defend itself and rid itself of cancer. Foods that contain Vit. B17 - Laetrile Alfalfa sprouts, bamboo shoots, barley, beet tops, berries (blackberry, boysenberry, cranberry, gooseberry, huckleberry, loganberry, raspberry, strawberries), bitter almond, brewer's yeast, brown rice, buckwheat currants, fava beans, flax seeds, garbanzo beans, kernels (apricot, cherry, peach, plum), lentils, lima beans, linseed meat, millet, millet seed, nuts (cashew, macadamia, pecan, walnut), quince, sorghum, spinach, sprouts (alfalfa, lentil, mung bean, buckwheat, garbanzo), watercress, yams. JoAnn Guest jogu- Friendsforhea- http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html theaimcompanies " Health is not a Medical Issue " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 --- good article elaine here is something else to add I am sending you this information so that you may evaluate it, properly and share this information with your people.Particular attention should be made to the audio on the web site mentioned . Helpful cancer information on prevention and alleviation You may have noticed the enormous lengths with which people will go to acquire material wealth, many at last are realising that to have real wealth is to have good health as just about anyone who has suffered anything serious will tell you. For of what good is it if you own the world without the health to enjoy it. Following the principles outlined in the Orion project will lead you to real wealth=health. For research purposes only I would like to share with you some information, which has been useful on the subject of cancer, this information is derived from the Edgar cayce research readings and many other reputable sources and from using it at the Edgar cayce clinic, from numerous reports from people who have tried this and from the thousands of Doctors who have been using this kind of information with considerable success some for over 43 yrs. For research purposes only from the Orion project which is set up in a very unique way in that the Orion project is an information sharing resource funded privately, which sells nothing and is there for the sharing of information which is of huge value. This is a totally different set up from being prescribed just drugs where there are huge profits to be made often at the expense of the patients well being even sometimes misery. Subject cancer There is a lot which can be done to ward off cancer and there areas in the world where cancer does not exist , this is to be kept firmly in mind . According to the Edgar cayce research information anti-tumour action was known empirically for many years, but in the last thirty five years has been scientifically proven, primarily through the clinical studies directed by well respected metabolic physicians around the world. Among them are Dr. Ernesto Contreras Rodriguez, of the Oasis of Hope Hospital (Formerly Centro Medico y Hospital Del Mar at Playas de Tijuana, B.C.N. Mexico); Dr. Harold Manner of the Manner Clinic in Playas de Tijuana, Mexico; etc Quite clearly stated is that anyone who eats 4-or so almonds a day need never fear cancer this was stated many years ago. What is it in almonds, which has this ability? Well vitamin B17 is within almonds ,and apparently is within the diet of those people in the world where there is no cancer. Typically our western diet does not have much b17 at all within it . According to Dr. Krebs, we need a minimum of 100 mg of vitamin B-17 (the equivalent of about seven apricots seeds) too nearly guarantee a cancer free life. Foods that contain vitamin B-17 are particularly within apricot kernals KERNELS OR SEEDS OF FRUIT: The highest concentration of vitamin B-17 to be found in nature, aside from bitter almonds. Apple, apricot, cherry, nectarine, peach, pear, plum, prune. BEANS: broad (Vicia faba), burma, NUTS: Bitter almond, macadamia, cashew. BERRIES: Almost all wild berries. Blackberry, chokeberry, Christmas berry, cranberry, elderberry, raspberry, strawberry. SEEDS: Chia, flax, sesame. GRAINS: oat groats, barley, brown rice, buckwheat groats, chia, flax, millet, rye, vetch, wheat berries. bamboo shoots, It has been clearly stated that anyone having cancer will also benefit hugely from taking B17 though the dose needs to be higher. Have a listen to the audio at this web sitehttp://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/index.htmlfor more info on B17, the drug companies do not want you to have this information because it will affect their profits . Of course Mental constructive purposeful attitudes are to be cultivated in all that are sick and injured. Your Mind can either build you or sleigh you. As you can imagine a good diet is essential in maintaining good health, emphasis was on fresh vegetables often eaten raw or grated to gain the maximum amount of goodness into you and fruits whole grains and light proteins. The application of animated ash and the ultraviolet light has also been shown to of great value. Preferably use the quartz light of the mercury quartz light .The light taken after the ash will cause the ash to clarify through the releasing of oxygen in the blood stream by being centered on the portion of the lungs affected and the adjacent tissues. See the cancer section on the web site Another avenue to dig into is the work of noted scientist Dr Raymond Rife ,just type in the words Raymond rife in your search engine . Also as ever Spiritual healing has been shown to be of huge and extreme benefit in many illnesses, as millions have testified,this can also help those who are just about to pass to the other side of life Further information on cancer and other ailments and therapies will be found at my web site. I do not sell anything – for the cynics amongst you, or you can e mail me on pho for further information on other ailments dealt with by cayce research which I believe total over 350 from stuttering to Parkinson's.those who would like to go on our healing list free just e mail me Feel free to copy and share this information In , " Elaine " <mem121@a...> wrote: > Laetrile and Cancer JoAnn Guest > > I have come to believe that a tumor is only the manifestation of cancer, it > is not THE cancer. Cancer starts a very long time before a tumor or mass > manifests itself. > > Laetrile or vitamin B17. > > We used to eat foods high in this vitamin; I will list the foods later, but > we've gotten away from them. > > President Nixon investigated laetrile. He had the Surgeon General conduct a > study. > > The most well known, highly respected cancer researcher in the country was > given this task. All tests done up to this time on laetrile were done by > companies who would not have been as financially stable if a natural > substance worked on cancer as opposed to their chemo drugs. > > Therefore, the tests were done in manners that negated vitamin b17's value. > > However in the report given by the Dr. researcher Nixon's attorney general > hired stated that it does indeed help the body defend itself and rid itself > of cancer. > > Foods that contain Vit. B17 - Laetrile > > Alfalfa sprouts, bamboo shoots, barley, beet tops, berries (blackberry, > boysenberry, cranberry, gooseberry, huckleberry, loganberry, raspberry, > strawberries), bitter almond, brewer's yeast, brown rice, buckwheat > currants, fava beans, flax seeds, garbanzo beans, kernels (apricot, cherry, > peach, plum), lentils, lima beans, linseed meat, millet, millet seed, nuts > (cashew, macadamia, pecan, walnut), quince, sorghum, spinach, sprouts > (alfalfa, lentil, mung bean, buckwheat, garbanzo), watercress, yams. > > JoAnn Guest jogu- Friendsforhea- > http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html theaimcompanies " Health is not > a Medical Issue " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Thanks for this information. I am trying to eat almonds and cranberries everyday, along with servings of the other fruits and veggies recommended. I have gotten more cautious....reading labels, etc. Today I saw unsweetened pickle relish on the shelf at the grocery store. Checking the ingredients I saw Splenda added. I just say to myself......WHY? Judy - " pjb12345uk " <pho Friday, December 12, 2003 12:48 PM Re: Laetrile: B-17 & Cancer --- good article elaine here is something else to add I am sending you this information so that you may evaluate it, properly and share this information with your people.Particular attention should be made to the audio on the web site mentioned . Helpful cancer information on prevention and alleviation You may have noticed the enormous lengths with which people will go to acquire material wealth, many at last are realising that to have real wealth is to have good health as just about anyone who has suffered anything serious will tell you. For of what good is it if you own the world without the health to enjoy it. Following the principles outlined in the Orion project will lead you to real wealth=health. For research purposes only I would like to share with you some information, which has been useful on the subject of cancer, this information is derived from the Edgar cayce research readings and many other reputable sources and from using it at the Edgar cayce clinic, from numerous reports from people who have tried this and from the thousands of Doctors who have been using this kind of information with considerable success some for over 43 yrs. For research purposes only from the Orion project which is set up in a very unique way in that the Orion project is an information sharing resource funded privately, which sells nothing and is there for the sharing of information which is of huge value. This is a totally different set up from being prescribed just drugs where there are huge profits to be made often at the expense of the patients well being even sometimes misery. Subject cancer There is a lot which can be done to ward off cancer and there areas in the world where cancer does not exist , this is to be kept firmly in mind . According to the Edgar cayce research information anti-tumour action was known empirically for many years, but in the last thirty five years has been scientifically proven, primarily through the clinical studies directed by well respected metabolic physicians around the world. Among them are Dr. Ernesto Contreras Rodriguez, of the Oasis of Hope Hospital (Formerly Centro Medico y Hospital Del Mar at Playas de Tijuana, B.C.N. Mexico); Dr. Harold Manner of the Manner Clinic in Playas de Tijuana, Mexico; etc Quite clearly stated is that anyone who eats 4-or so almonds a day need never fear cancer this was stated many years ago. What is it in almonds, which has this ability? Well vitamin B17 is within almonds ,and apparently is within the diet of those people in the world where there is no cancer. Typically our western diet does not have much b17 at all within it . According to Dr. Krebs, we need a minimum of 100 mg of vitamin B-17 (the equivalent of about seven apricots seeds) too nearly guarantee a cancer free life. Foods that contain vitamin B-17 are particularly within apricot kernals KERNELS OR SEEDS OF FRUIT: The highest concentration of vitamin B-17 to be found in nature, aside from bitter almonds. Apple, apricot, cherry, nectarine, peach, pear, plum, prune. BEANS: broad (Vicia faba), burma, NUTS: Bitter almond, macadamia, cashew. BERRIES: Almost all wild berries. Blackberry, chokeberry, Christmas berry, cranberry, elderberry, raspberry, strawberry. SEEDS: Chia, flax, sesame. GRAINS: oat groats, barley, brown rice, buckwheat groats, chia, flax, millet, rye, vetch, wheat berries. bamboo shoots, It has been clearly stated that anyone having cancer will also benefit hugely from taking B17 though the dose needs to be higher. Have a listen to the audio at this web sitehttp://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/index.htmlfor more info on B17, the drug companies do not want you to have this information because it will affect their profits . Of course Mental constructive purposeful attitudes are to be cultivated in all that are sick and injured. Your Mind can either build you or sleigh you. As you can imagine a good diet is essential in maintaining good health, emphasis was on fresh vegetables often eaten raw or grated to gain the maximum amount of goodness into you and fruits whole grains and light proteins. The application of animated ash and the ultraviolet light has also been shown to of great value. Preferably use the quartz light of the mercury quartz light .The light taken after the ash will cause the ash to clarify through the releasing of oxygen in the blood stream by being centered on the portion of the lungs affected and the adjacent tissues. See the cancer section on the web site Another avenue to dig into is the work of noted scientist Dr Raymond Rife ,just type in the words Raymond rife in your search engine . Also as ever Spiritual healing has been shown to be of huge and extreme benefit in many illnesses, as millions have testified,this can also help those who are just about to pass to the other side of life Further information on cancer and other ailments and therapies will be found at my web site. I do not sell anything - for the cynics amongst you, or you can e mail me on pho for further information on other ailments dealt with by cayce research which I believe total over 350 from stuttering to Parkinson's.those who would like to go on our healing list free just e mail me Feel free to copy and share this information In , " Elaine " <mem121@a...> wrote: > Laetrile and Cancer JoAnn Guest > > I have come to believe that a tumor is only the manifestation of cancer, it > is not THE cancer. Cancer starts a very long time before a tumor or mass > manifests itself. > > Laetrile or vitamin B17. > > We used to eat foods high in this vitamin; I will list the foods later, but > we've gotten away from them. > > President Nixon investigated laetrile. He had the Surgeon General conduct a > study. > > The most well known, highly respected cancer researcher in the country was > given this task. All tests done up to this time on laetrile were done by > companies who would not have been as financially stable if a natural > substance worked on cancer as opposed to their chemo drugs. > > Therefore, the tests were done in manners that negated vitamin b17's value. > > However in the report given by the Dr. researcher Nixon's attorney general > hired stated that it does indeed help the body defend itself and rid itself > of cancer. > > Foods that contain Vit. B17 - Laetrile > > Alfalfa sprouts, bamboo shoots, barley, beet tops, berries (blackberry, > boysenberry, cranberry, gooseberry, huckleberry, loganberry, raspberry, > strawberries), bitter almond, brewer's yeast, brown rice, buckwheat > currants, fava beans, flax seeds, garbanzo beans, kernels (apricot, cherry, > peach, plum), lentils, lima beans, linseed meat, millet, millet seed, nuts > (cashew, macadamia, pecan, walnut), quince, sorghum, spinach, sprouts > (alfalfa, lentil, mung bean, buckwheat, garbanzo), watercress, yams. > > JoAnn Guest jogu- Friendsforhea- > http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html theaimcompanies " Health is not > a Medical Issue " «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ » § - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! § Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Judy are you sure that pickle relish did not say sugar free? And Splenda is used for the sweetener? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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