Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 BSE crosses the Atlantic New Scientist vol 178 issue 2397 - 31 May 2003, page 6 The US and Canada were warned that some of their cattle might have mad cow disease. But neither country has been testing enough animals to rule this out THE discovery of a BSE-infected cow in Canada confirms warnings from European scientists three years ago that cattle in North America could be infected. And if Canadian cattle are infected it is likely that the disease is also present in the US. The US and Canada test so few animals that low levels of BSE infection would not be detected. Indeed, the number Canada tests would be unlikely to reveal a level of infection any lower than what the UK now has. Other countries have found many more cases after increasing testing when the first infected cattle were reported. What's more, neither country has taken any of the measures needed to prevent people being infected by meat from diseased cattle (see " What to do now " ). Even if people are eating infected meat, there are unlikely to be many cases of vCJD, the human disease linked to BSE. In the UK, the country worst hit by the disease, it is thought unlikely that there will be more than 200 vCJD cases in total. But BSE could still have a huge economic impact on the massive $400 billion North American beef industry. The Canadian case was an eight-year-old Black Angus beef cow in the western province of Alberta. The province tests a sample of " high- risk " cattle: those found dead or disabled on farms, or with neurological symptoms, or that have been rejected by the abattoir. Such animals are up to 10 times as likely as other animals to have undetected BSE, so they are ideal for monitoring purposes. This cow was rejected by an abattoir late in January because it had pneumonia. The result was not announced until 20 May due to delays caused by a backlog in testing, the 10 days it takes to do the test that Canada uses, and the need to confirm the finding at the world BSE reference laboratory at Weybridge in England. Unlike Canada's only previous case, diagnosed in 1993 in a cow born in Britain in 1987, this animal was born in Canada and must have been infected there, probably by eating contaminated feed eight years ago. Canada's Agriculture minister Lyle Vanclief insists it is an " isolated case " . But cases of BSE don't happen spontaneously, and other cattle would have eaten the same feed. " There must be more cases, " says Marcus Doherr of the University of Bern in Switzerland, a leading expert on BSE epidemiology. " For every case we detect, we estimate there were three to five animals exposed. " Europe has been urging North Americans to do more testing, Doherr says. In 2000, he and other scientists working for the European Commission concluded that BSE could be circulating at low levels in the US and Canada, because British cattle imported before 1990 were recycled as feed (New Scientist, 10 June 2000, p 4). The risk would have peaked between 1993 and 1997. The Alberta cow was born in 1995. But North America has been slow to test for BSE and does not use the fast tests developed in Europe. This is partly because these tests tend to produce false positives, which could be a headache in a country that claims to be BSE-free. In Alberta, which has 2.5 million cattle over 18 months old, the target group for testing, only 1655 animals have been tested for BSE since 1996 - half of them last year. Because so few animals are being tested, infected cattle could go undetected. The 849 high-risk cattle Alberta tested last year would only have been enough to reliably detect a prevalence of infection in the high-risk group of 0.035 per cent, slightly more than the current rate in the UK. Of course, there is a big margin of error: the true prevalence could be lower or higher. The situation is slightly better in the US, where nearly 20,000 cattle found dead on farms were tested for BSE last year. All were negative. But the sample is still far too small to rule out the existence of BSE in the US herd. And until the US border was closed to Canadian beef last week, the two countries' cattle industries were closely integrated. Last year, Alberta shipped over half a million live cattle to the US. They also trade large volumes of meat and bonemeal for feeding to animals - the main way BSE is transmitted. What to do now The US and Canada should use the rapid tests developed in Europe to test as many sick and dead animals as possible. Some apparently healthy animals should also be tested at slaughter to ensure that farmers do not stop sending sick animals to the slaughterhouse for fear BSE will be discovered on their farms. The US should drop the $75 fee it charges farmers who bring reject animals for rendering. This encourages farmers to quietly bury them, so they cannot be tested. If BSE is found: Ban all ruminants (cattle and sheep) being turned into meat and bone meal (MBM) for feeding to animals. The US and Canada still allow ruminants to be fed to non-ruminants, and vice versa. But Europe's experience suggests this consistently leads to ruminants eating ruminants, because of accidental contamination in feed mills, failure to follow the rules and farmers feeding, say, pig feed to cows to avoid waste. Better still, completely ban the use of MBM, as Europe did when it discovered that it was too complicated to ban some feeds for some animals. Both the US and Canada insist they already have adequate procedures in place, but a US General Accounting Office report last year found many feed companies aren't following the rules. Remove from food the parts of cattle most likely to transmit the disease to people, including the brain, spinal cord and spleen. Ban mechanical separators for extracting meat from the spinal cord for hot dogs and sausages. Stop abbatoirs using stun guns that can scatter brain tissue onto parts of the animal eaten by people (the US is considering this). Debora MacKenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Like so much of what is passed off as " Medical Science " these days, research into BSE and its associated diseases -- Mad Cow Disease, Wasting Syndrome, New-varient Creutzfeld Jacob Disease, et al -- has become so politicized that much of what is said about it by the medical junta must be taken with the proverbial grain of salt. Groundbreaking research by some politically-incorrect scientists such as Mark Purdy and David Brown is being swept under the rug and their research is being denied funding. In the words of Mark Purdy " : " Since 1986, the infamous neurodegenerative syndrome known as Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) has blighted the heartbeat of British Agriculture. The disease has led to the annihilation of thousands of cattle, whilst its human analogue, new-varient Creutzfeld Jakob Disease (vCJD), has blighted the lives of a growing number of young people. Moreover, the spongiform epidemic has created a fierce battleground between nations, vested interests, political parties, farmers, victims and consumers. " But despite the severity of the BSE legacy, little genuine attempt has been made to crack the causal riddle of these diseases, thereby leaving us devoid of insight into measures that would best cure, control and, better still, prevent this terrible illness. " To read about this go to the following URLs: Educating Rida http://www.westonaprice.org/myths_truths/myths_truths_mad2.html Animal Pharm <http://www.westonaprice.org/myths_truths/myths_truths_mad.html> and > >BSE crosses the Atlantic > >New Scientist vol 178 issue 2397 - 31 May 2003, page 6 > > >The US and Canada were warned that some of their cattle might have >mad cow disease. But neither country has been testing enough animals >to rule this out > > >THE discovery of a BSE-infected cow in Canada confirms warnings from >European scientists three years ago that cattle in North America >could be infected. And if Canadian cattle are infected it is likely >that the disease is also present in the US. > >The US and Canada test so few animals that low levels of BSE >infection would not be detected. Indeed, the number Canada tests >would be unlikely to reveal a level of infection any lower than what >the UK now has. Other countries have found many more cases after >increasing testing when the first infected cattle were reported. > >What's more, neither country has taken any of the measures needed to >prevent people being infected by meat from diseased cattle >(see " What to do now " ). Even if people are eating infected meat, >there are unlikely to be many cases of vCJD, the human disease >linked to BSE. In the UK, the country worst hit by the disease, it >is thought unlikely that there will be more than 200 vCJD cases in >total. But BSE could still have a huge economic impact on the >massive $400 billion North American beef industry. > >The Canadian case was an eight-year-old Black Angus beef cow in the >western province of Alberta. The province tests a sample of " high- >risk " cattle: those found dead or disabled on farms, or with >neurological symptoms, or that have been rejected by the abattoir. >Such animals are up to 10 times as likely as other animals to have >undetected BSE, so they are ideal for monitoring purposes. > >This cow was rejected by an abattoir late in January because it had >pneumonia. The result was not announced until 20 May due to delays >caused by a backlog in testing, the 10 days it takes to do the test >that Canada uses, and the need to confirm the finding at the world >BSE reference laboratory at Weybridge in England. > >Unlike Canada's only previous case, diagnosed in 1993 in a cow born >in Britain in 1987, this animal was born in Canada and must have >been infected there, probably by eating contaminated feed eight >years ago. Canada's Agriculture minister Lyle Vanclief insists it is >an " isolated case " . But cases of BSE don't happen spontaneously, and >other cattle would have eaten the same feed. " There must be more >cases, " says Marcus Doherr of the University of Bern in Switzerland, >a leading expert on BSE epidemiology. " For every case we detect, we >estimate there were three to five animals exposed. " > >Europe has been urging North Americans to do more testing, Doherr >says. In 2000, he and other scientists working for the European >Commission concluded that BSE could be circulating at low levels in >the US and Canada, because British cattle imported before 1990 were >recycled as feed (New Scientist, 10 June 2000, p 4). The risk would >have peaked between 1993 and 1997. The Alberta cow was born in 1995. > >But North America has been slow to test for BSE and does not use the >fast tests developed in Europe. This is partly because these tests >tend to produce false positives, which could be a headache in a >country that claims to be BSE-free. > >In Alberta, which has 2.5 million cattle over 18 months old, the >target group for testing, only 1655 animals have been tested for BSE >since 1996 - half of them last year. Because so few animals are >being tested, infected cattle could go undetected. The 849 high-risk >cattle Alberta tested last year would only have been enough to >reliably detect a prevalence of infection in the high-risk group of >0.035 per cent, slightly more than the current rate in the UK. Of >course, there is a big margin of error: the true prevalence could be >lower or higher. > >The situation is slightly better in the US, where nearly 20,000 >cattle found dead on farms were tested for BSE last year. All were >negative. But the sample is still far too small to rule out the >existence of BSE in the US herd. > >And until the US border was closed to Canadian beef last week, the >two countries' cattle industries were closely integrated. Last year, >Alberta shipped over half a million live cattle to the US. They also >trade large volumes of meat and bonemeal for feeding to animals - >the main way BSE is transmitted. > > >What to do now > >The US and Canada should use the rapid tests developed in Europe to >test as many sick and dead animals as possible. Some apparently >healthy animals should also be tested at slaughter to ensure that >farmers do not stop sending sick animals to the slaughterhouse for >fear BSE will be discovered on their farms. > >The US should drop the $75 fee it charges farmers who bring reject >animals for rendering. This encourages farmers to quietly bury them, >so they cannot be tested. > >If BSE is found: > >Ban all ruminants (cattle and sheep) being turned into meat and bone >meal (MBM) for feeding to animals. The US and Canada still allow >ruminants to be fed to non-ruminants, and vice versa. But Europe's >experience suggests this consistently leads to ruminants eating >ruminants, because of accidental contamination in feed mills, >failure to follow the rules and farmers feeding, say, pig feed to >cows to avoid waste. > >Better still, completely ban the use of MBM, as Europe did when it >discovered that it was too complicated to ban some feeds for some >animals. Both the US and Canada insist they already have adequate >procedures in place, but a US General Accounting Office report last >year found many feed companies aren't following the rules. > >Remove from food the parts of cattle most likely to transmit the >disease to people, including the brain, spinal cord and spleen. > >Ban mechanical separators for extracting meat from the spinal cord >for hot dogs and sausages. > >Stop abbatoirs using stun guns that can scatter brain tissue onto >parts of the animal eaten by people (the US is considering this). -- Neil Jensen: neil The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ " Dragons is sooooo stupid! " -- Yosemite Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 ---that BSE crap came from fricking America , the British were brave enough to be the first to admit it was in their country, and yes there are some people out there that do know what the cause is and youre not being told, probably just like K-17 or RVK-17 and a myriad of others In , Neil Jensen <neil@s...> wrote: > Like so much of what is passed off as " Medical Science " these days, research into BSE and its associated diseases -- Mad Cow Disease, Wasting Syndrome, New-varient Creutzfeld Jacob Disease, et al -- has become so politicized that much of what is said about it by the medical junta must be taken with the proverbial grain of salt. Groundbreaking research by some politically-incorrect scientists such as Mark Purdy and David Brown is being swept under the rug and their research is being denied funding. In the words of Mark Purdy " : > > " Since 1986, the infamous neurodegenerative syndrome known as > Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) has blighted the > heartbeat of British Agriculture. The disease has led to the > annihilation of thousands of cattle, whilst its human > analogue, new-varient Creutzfeld Jakob Disease (vCJD), has > blighted the lives of a growing number of young people. > Moreover, the spongiform epidemic has created a fierce > battleground between nations, vested interests, political > parties, farmers, victims and consumers. > > " But despite the severity of the BSE legacy, little genuine > attempt has been made to crack the causal riddle of these > diseases, thereby leaving us devoid of insight into measures > that would best cure, control and, better still, prevent this > terrible illness. " > > To read about this go to the following URLs: > > Educating Rida > http://www.westonaprice.org/myths_truths/myths_truths_mad2.ht ml > Animal Pharm > <http://www.westonaprice.org/myths_truths/myths_truths_mad.ht ml> and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Did you even bother to read the articles that i posted and instead of finding out what they had to say? I don't think so. If you had read the just the first paragraph of the article " Animal Pharm " you would have discovered that Mark Purdy is an Englishman who runs a dairy farm in Somerset, UK. If his theories are right, and i think there is a strong possibility that they are, the English government would be open to lawsuits by English farmers because of their mandate that farmers spray their cattle with extremely high doses of organophosphate (OP) insecticide in response to the warble fly outbreak which coincided with the outbreak of BSE in the UK. How can you dismiss what Mr. Purdy has to say without even finding out what he has to say? If i am wrong and you did read the articles, you should at least be able to refute them point by point. It's much easier though to curse at me for my attempt to show that other possibilities than the official line exist. It was my aim to present evidence that contradicts the official theory of causes, prevention and even cures for of BSE, vCJD, etc., that you and my friend Luckypig presented in this forum. From your tone you seem to want to engage in a flame war instead of dialog. Sorry, i'm not up for it. I'll just let the good people on this list read the articles, if they are interested, and decide for themselves. I learned a long time ago that it is useless to argue with ardent followers of the official line. Their minds are already made up and facts only serve to confuse them. >---that BSE crap came from fricking America , the British were brave >enough to be the first to admit it was in their country, and yes >there are some people out there that do know what the cause is and >youre not being told, probably just like K-17 or RVK-17 and a myriad >of others -- Neil Jensen: neil The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ " It was always much pleasanter... when one wasn't always being ordered about by mice and rabbits. " -- Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 --- Neil I have posted enough in the past for you to know that I am not a conformist of any sort or spout the party line...did it ever occur to you that I know him(Purdy) personally? ya want me to ask him if I gave give ya his #?, I also know the president of the cattlemens assoc, and they know that the warblerfly spray is related to Saron, who do you think creates all the screwed up chemicals in the world? England?we do!have you forgotten that my mother died from nvCJD aka madhuman,I sold assets like in a game of monoply to prove she had it, I was raided without search warrant because in order to get the autopsy done I literally had to mastermind the smuggling of her body to the facility which not long after I recieved confirmation was closed by the FED and all records seized, I became a member of an interantioal news agency in order to get out the press release 'cause mainstream would not put it out, so dont go there with me about spouting the party line OK?,what is Oak Wilt? a prion disease! what animals eat the Oak? the FOOLS here in Texas( and everywhere) used to burn dead Oak Wilt trees! and spread it around! what country first admitted to having Oak Wilt ?the Oak is to the wildlife what the Hackberry is to the forest...... namaste Karl In , Neil Jensen <neil@s...> wrote: > Did you even bother to read the articles that i posted and instead of finding out what they had to say? I don't think so. If you had read the just the first paragraph of the article " Animal Pharm " you would have discovered that Mark Purdy is an Englishman who runs a dairy farm in Somerset, UK. If his theories are right, and i think there is a strong possibility that they are, the English government would be open to lawsuits by English farmers because of their mandate that farmers spray their cattle with extremely high doses of organophosphate (OP) insecticide in response to the warble fly outbreak which coincided with the outbreak of BSE in the UK. How can you dismiss what Mr. Purdy has to say without even finding out what he has to say? > > If i am wrong and you did read the articles, you should at least be able to refute them point by point. It's much easier though to curse at me for my attempt to show that other possibilities than the official line exist. It was my aim to present evidence that contradicts the official theory of causes, prevention and even cures for of BSE, vCJD, etc., that you and my friend Luckypig presented in this forum. From your tone you seem to want to engage in a flame war instead of dialog. Sorry, i'm not up for it. I'll just let the good people on this list read the articles, if they are interested, and decide for themselves. I learned a long time ago that it is useless to argue with ardent followers of the official line. Their minds are already made up and facts only serve to confuse them. > > >---that BSE crap came from fricking America , the British were brave > >enough to be the first to admit it was in their country, and yes > >there are some people out there that do know what the cause is and > >youre not being told, probably just like K-17 or RVK-17 and a myriad > >of others > > > -- > Neil Jensen: neil@s... > The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ > " It was always much pleasanter... when one wasn't always > being ordered about by mice and rabbits. " -- Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 And how in the World am i supposed to know of your inside information Karl? Perhaps you have said it before on this forum(?) There are thousands of posts here and i often trash them without reading them because i have become tired of the thread, or something. Couldn't you have said so in the first " fricking " place and shared your information? Yes Karl, i know that you generally are not a conformist and tend not to follow the flock. But all of us, myself of course included, have some things which can charge us up emotionally and destroy our objectivity regarding that thing. Please don't jump on me as i am not accusing you of that but i sure would like to see a rebuttal of the information that i posted. >--- >Neil I have posted enough in the past for you to know that I am not >a conformist of any sort or spout the party line...did it ever occur >to you that I know him(Purdy) personally? ya want me to ask him if I >gave give ya his #?, I also know the president of the cattlemens >assoc, and they know that the warblerfly spray is related to >Saron, who do you think creates all the screwed up chemicals in the >world? England?we do!have you forgotten that my mother died from >nvCJD aka madhuman,I sold assets like in a game of monoply to prove >she had it, I was raided without search warrant because in order to >get the autopsy done I literally had to mastermind the smuggling of >her body to the facility which not long after I recieved >confirmation was closed by the FED and all records seized, I became >a member of an interantioal news agency in order to get out the >press release 'cause mainstream would not put it out, so dont go >there with me about spouting the party line OK?,what is Oak Wilt? a >prion disease! what animals eat the Oak? the FOOLS here in Texas( >and everywhere) used to burn dead Oak Wilt trees! and spread it >around! what country first admitted to having Oak Wilt ?the Oak is >to the wildlife what the Hackberry is to the forest...... >namaste >Karl -- Neil Jensen: neil The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/ " Dragons is sooooo stupid! " -- Yosemite Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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