Guest guest Posted November 23, 1999 Report Share Posted November 23, 1999 I'm very curious about where indeed the discourse of TCM vis á vis 5 Elements stems from? Does anyoe here really know the answer to this question? In Sweden TCM means Traditional Within this paradigm Yin/Yang and Wu Xing are an integral part of TCM. No ancient writings nor modern translations of these writings that I've read suggest that TCM is either this or that. In diagnosing we take into consideration Yin/Yang, Wu Xing, The 6 energy levels: Tai Yang, Shao Yang, Yang Ming, Tai Yin, Tsue Yin, and Shoa Yin, also The 8 extraordinary Meridians:Du Mai, Ren Mai, Chong Mai, Dai Mai, Yin/Yang Qiao, and Yin/Yang Wei. There is indeed different spelling for these concepts depending on what " school " one's knowledge was acquired. It is quite intriguing to listen to this sort of discourse in fact the rhetoric of many in this discussion is confusing. This approach or that approach has an heir of " us and/or them " . I concur with Geovani about recipes.I believe a recipe is not and individual approach and often forgets to that symptoms and sickness can come from many different sources. There are a few points that are always specific for some imbalances but then there are always individual points as well. Regards Patrick Dooley -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: geovani [inandor] Skickat: den 22 november 1999 15:19 Till: acupuncture Ämne: acupuncture TCM/5E It seems to me, more and more, that there is not realy any deep fundamental difference between the two approuches we are talking about. The point where things might have taken a differnt turn, is where the professional starts to rely on the treatment recepies. In the TCM it is pointed out that the 5 elements as pairs of organ/viscera are interdependent on each other and mutualy conected to form an entirety. If one goes further into these expositions, it is clearly noted that it is not sugested in any way that one should depart from the vision of the human being as a whole. Maybe the so called 5E school of acup. trys to take advantage, or looks more intensly, or considers more fundamental, in order to " see " the nature of the weak link in the chain of 5 elements, the psichical or mental manifestations. But the TCM approuche is not far from that, by looking into the " general " deviations of the individual - things like heat, damp, humid, active etc...Both approuches are envisioning the human entity as an entirety. The real " gap " appears, it seems to me, in the end part of these TCM books, where they suddenly go on into expounding the recepies for the " cure " of different desieses. In one hand i feel that those recepies are indeed important data gathered through centurys of clinical practice....but maybe they lead the less attent practicioner to slip into the notion that that is the important or fundamental part of the whole " teaching " . All i can say ,at this point of my inquiery, that maybe one should, reavaliate the real meaning of the acup. recepies. They must have a definite place in the tottality of the acup. knowledge, for they may represent some statistical reality...but not exactly where they seem to fit. geovani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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