Guest guest Posted November 23, 1999 Report Share Posted November 23, 1999 says that one must treat the whole of the person and his/her life. The best acupuncture cure for weight loss is to needle for damp (if relevant) spleen, etc. and TELL THEM TO DIET! Sorry for the response. But really, the needles by themselves can't do it. They must change their lives. Green tea can also help, exercise. Diet which is very good: Eat like a king in the morning, prince in the afternoon and pauper in the evening. The Chinese eat their big meal of the day about 10:00 (after the stomach of the Chinese clock). Throughout the day less and less food. This way the person can burn off the food. Also white rice with mung beans for strengthing the spleen. Problem is most overweight people are looking for easy cures. Dr. Rick Kramer wrote: > > > I am an acupuncturist for a number of years and have come up with a more than > a few patients wanting " weight loss " . They generally are women in their > 40-50's generally very aware that cultural pressures are defining their > self-esteem. In other words, intelligent yet they still ask me to help. > I used to avoid weight loss and worked on the esteem etc... but now I really > feel like I should address the physical aspects. I have had little success I > must admit. > Do other practitioners of acupuncture/herbs have special skills they can > share? For the most part these patients eat very little and are 10-30 pounds > over " ideal weight " (whatever that is). The main diagnosis is spleen > deficiency. > Thanks > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 1999 Report Share Posted November 24, 1999 said: >I am an acupuncturist for a number of years and have come up with a more >than >a few patients wanting " weight loss " . They generally are women in their >40-50's generally very aware that cultural pressures are defining their >self-esteem. In other words, intelligent yet they still ask me to help. >I used to avoid weight loss and worked on the esteem etc... but now I really >feel like I should address the physical aspects. I have had little success I >must admit. >Do other practitioners of acupuncture/herbs have special skills they can >share? For the most part these patients eat very little and are 10-30 pounds >over " ideal weight " (whatever that is). The main diagnosis is spleen >deficiency. >Thanks I say: I find that these kind of people (perpetual dieters) have often lost their connection with their appetite (part of the spleen qi defic.). I tell them that my goal with the treatment is actually to restore their appetite, and get them in touch with their body's nutritional needs so they eat based on that, not based on stifled emotions. Often Liver or Gall Bladder is in excess (Liver if they have a lot of unprocessed deep anger, GB if they are " control freaks " dealing with lots of current hassles and stress) and I treat that. I recommend that they eat lots of oats each morning, that in my experience really helps tonify the spleen and restore (balance) the appetite. If they want to exercize but can't get motivated, treating Liv. Qi Stagnation can help. If they do a lot of junk food binging and want help changing that behavior, ear acupuncture can help(I use the 5 needle protocol for stop smoking but substitute Mouth for Lung). Also, the most important is that they eat good organic food, so that their bodies won't be compelled to keep fat for storing toxins. -- Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 1999 Report Share Posted November 25, 1999 hi Greg I'm interested in your mention of the five needles protocol - could you give us more information, please? thanks Amanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Hello, Now this is just my opinion. In my experience weight has more to do with emotional issues than how much the person is actually eating. So in some ways, looking at it from this view is the best way to do anything permanent with it. Quite often people with weight are Earth CFs ( ie permanent St. and Spl. deficient ). So that means they are carrying a lot of emptiness/neediness and usually a lot of anger around that feeling from their childhood. I always check for blocks from the Liv. to the Lung meridian. Feeling for a large G.B./ Liv pulse and a non existent Lung/L.I. pulse. This block quite often comes from repressed anger. I keep this unblocked by tonifying Liv.14 and Lu1 as opposed to sedating the Wood meridians. They might experience some of this anger as it releases but it will help them feel lighter and the digestion should flow better. Next it is important to fill them emotionally. Points like " Receive Fullness " (St 20) and Abdomen Sorrow (Sp16) are good with moxa, if you tonify the point. Ren 8 " Spirit Deficiency " Moxa on salt up to 11 cones. This will help them feel fullness and not have to fill an inside hole with an outside things Not that this is going to change everything for them but at least you have hit the nail on the head and not just treated the symptoms. Again this is from a Five Element perspective and my opinion. All the best Gye Bennetts - acupuncture Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:43 acupuncture patients who want weight loss I am an acupuncturist for a number of years and have come up with a more than a few patients wanting " weight loss " . They generally are women in their 40-50's generally very aware that cultural pressures are defining their self-esteem. In other words, intelligent yet they still ask me to help. I used to avoid weight loss and worked on the esteem etc... but now I really feel like I should address the physical aspects. I have had little success I must admit. Do other practitioners of acupuncture/herbs have special skills they can share? For the most part these patients eat very little and are 10-30 pounds over " ideal weight " (whatever that is). The main diagnosis is spleen deficiency. Thanks --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! <a href= " http://clickme./ad/gator4 " >Click Here</a> ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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