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" Pedro Morales " <pamg21

 

 

Hi Giovani,

I would had like to answer before to your kind letter, yet I have been moving.

 

geovani> ...hmmm...i understand :^)

 

 

P>Any way, answering your questions, I have been doing acupuncture since 1974,

when I studied following the Argentinian school which did nourish from Nguyen

Van nghi.

 

geovani> What would you like to tell us about your acupuncturist

" path " , and what would you like to ask?

 

Pedro> That would be a long answer and I am sure we shall have time to

share. After so many years I have come to my own path: I consider our body as an

instrument designed as a lab to develop qualities.

 

geovani>Yes. It seems that one of the main " qualities " is the perception of

non-duality.

The perception that all events - inner or outer - belong to the one and only

" movement " there is. It is being it as " this " . There is not an inner entity - as

a " me " - separate from the rest of the universe - as an outsider.

 

P>The administration, metabolism, causes & effects of the manifestation of

qualities in our microcosm -our body- reflects as health or illness. One way to

deal with such a situation is Acupuncture. In that sense I use points as

qualities resonators, and I work in them not only with needles, but also with

qualified energy.

 

G>In wich pathological " field " you think

acupuncture is most effective?

 

P>I would not speak in this case of pathologies, but I would thing in beings

that deserve this treatment.

 

geovani> Sure! Thanks for reminding me. There is only energetic

desequilibrium.

 

 

G>Do you know anything about the modality

of the " five elements acupuncture " ?

 

P> Yes I do, and by the way I don't agree with it. Take for example earth

element. It is a protoelement like the greek element aether, to which it

corresponds. How could it go between fire & metal if it is in the center? (That

would make up a good discusion any way). There are other inconsistencies in this

theory also. It is less accepted in China than in Occident, and according to

sinologists, it hasn't been kept that way along chinese history.

 

geovani> Well, my question was refering specificly to J. R. Worsley's - the

so called

5E acup. Now about the 5 elements " theory " - it can be discussed. First, I

feel it is not a theory, but a pragmatic law of nature. There is no need, imo,

to place the element earth in the center at all. Why should it? It doesn't

refer to the planet earth.

The 5 elements, as i see it, are 5 " qualities " or 5 energies, or 5 phases

(Greg), in nature.

The fases, or qualities, are facts. The 5 elements are only simbols that

try to point to those qualities of nature. You could call them A, B, C, D, F -

or anything else. The association with those elements of nature was just a good

" reminder " , a way to comunicate those qualities - 3 thousunds years ago. It is

not trying to fit facts into the theory, but fitting the simbols according to

the empirical facts. I also feel, that the meaning of the expressions like

Liver, Lungs, Kidneys etc...should be, as was originaly, seen in an objective

" psichological " way. In other words - they must be seen or felt. Please feel

free to object.... :^)

 

 

G> Do you take in consideration the names of points?

 

P>I try, but I believe there is a great gap in history. Somewhere, somehow

knowledge got lost. My intuition is that we don't know for real what that thing

really means.

 

geovani> Agreed. But i also feel that we maybe could " find them " again...why

not?

If I puncture a point and feel " happy, satisfied " , and many other people

do....maybe we can arrive at a consensus about the real psichological meaning of

that point - and eventualy conclude that the original expression can somehow be

" fitted " - or not.

 

G>Have you ever noticed any " agravation " after the first sessions, or

at any other time?

 

P>Yes of course, but normally it happens in the first session.

 

geovani> interesting.

 

 

P>I have to say also that I use many other treatments that minimize

agravations like homeopathy, diet, supplements, Intravenous mineral inyections

and EAV.

 

G>How much importance do give to the " mental simptoms " ?

 

T> Total. Defining which qualities are deficient is based on mental and

emotional symptoms.

 

 

wellcome, Pedro...

geovani

 

Thank you. I see we are " neighbours " . I live in Venezuela.

Pedro

 

 

 

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