Special Request

June 26, 2000

I'm on Annual Leave until 10th July. If there are any urgent issues then

Catherine Kerr is covering for me (0208 411 4595

June 27, 2000

1) it depends on the underlying condition, i.e. if he is deficient in any organ pertaining to the areas of perceived obstruction.

One must identify the most tender spots for Ashi application, other than that it must be the proximal points to damage, then distal to draw Qi and smooth the flow through the channels. This is a very un-ideal prognosis, as a full diagnostic evaluation will better the patient as a whole.

Thus there may be other diagnostic, avenues pursued that may indicate specific channel problems that are pertinent to the treatment principles that should ameliorate his condition. As much as one would like to have a patient to healing all, a hands on diagnosis and therefore "intent" will be more beneficial.Obvious local and distal points come to mind, but true healing is down to the practitioner at hand, and his/her perception of the condition. As this is acute condition and for you to attempt a rapid development of the condition, work with "Ashi" points as dictated by the patient, and then distal points to the channels that you perceive as affected. With your correct intention, and attainment of de-qi, you should realise the beneficial effects. That is of course if you are a practitioner, regardless your intent to redress the problem is a wholesome start.

Titan

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Ivan Geovani Nandor

acupuncture

26 June 2000 19:25

acupuncture Special Request

Jose is my brother in law. But he is like my blood brother - realy good fellow.

He fell from the roof, broke/injuried is cervical vertebra (between 5-6) an is tertra

plegic. This hapened 90 days ago. He went through a cirgury to realign the vertebrae

70 days ago, but the situation is quite the same. He can move his left arm - but not

the left hand. He can move the internal muscles of the right arm - not the hands. He

has begun phisioteraphy, and is beguining to feel very strong "pains" in the whole

body - waist up (good sign?). I haven't seen him yet personaly since - we are a bit

far from each other. He is about to take his neck suporting/protector stuff, and I will

be seeing him in July. Taking in account that I can't give a precise diagnose, or a precise

avaliation on the "profundity" of the injury (the Doctors can't either - it seems), I

would like to look at the "window" of possibilities for acupuncture treatment in such cases.

I know about a particular "grid" technique: to work in a square around the injuried

vertebrae (GV - Blader...). Other information/possibilities are wellcome.

Thanks

Ivan

June 27, 2000

1) it depends on the underlying condition, i.e. if he is deficient in any organ pertaining to the areas of perceived obstruction.

One must identify the most tender spots for Ashi application, other than that it must be the proximal points to damage, then distal to draw Qi and smooth the flow through the channels. This is a very un-ideal prognosis, as a full diagnostic evaluation will better the patient as a whole.

Thus there may be other diagnostic, avenues pursued that may indicate specific channel problems that are pertinent to the treatment principles that should ameliorate his condition. As much as one would like to have a patient to healing all, a hands on diagnosis and therefore " intent " will be more beneficial.Obvious local and distal points come to mind, but true healing is down to the practitioner at hand, and his/her perception of the condition. As this is acute condition and for you to attempt a rapid development of the condition, work with " Ashi " points as dictated by the patient, and then distal points to the channels that you perceive as affected. With your correct intention, and attainment of de-qi, you should realise the beneficial effects. That is of course if you are a practitioner, regardless your intent to redress the problem is a wholesome start.

Titan

Yes titan, I am a practicioner. But the question is: how can I use " distal " points

if there is no sensation? He is tertraplegic. Is there any meaning in needling

insensitive points? Anyway... I will avaliate the amount of sensitivity left, and the

areas where work can be done.

thanks

ivan

June 27, 2000

Without any doubt, the best tehcnique for him is the eye-reflex acupuncture. Maybe with diod laser.

If you can, take it directly to Beijin for an intensive treatment. I sent a patient of mine some years ago and with great results.

Best of my wishes.

Muchas gracias por su atención, Than you very much for all your attention, Josep Carrion.

jcarrionterapeuta

-----Mensaje original-----De: Ivan Geovani Nandor [inandor]Enviado el: lunes, 26 de junio de 2000 20:25Para: acupuncture Asunto: acupuncture Special Request