[energyhealing-essentialskills] The Secret Convincer Strategies for Earth & Water Elements!

March 9, 2005

Yeah, Doc, real smart. And I think Chris will do an awesome job.

I know some of what he did, and that's real neat. But I don't understand why

anyone would want to moderate that group. If they want to fall apart and not

have a moderator, fuck 'em -- go start a new group.

And no disrespect to Donna Eden, here, either... What's this horseshit about

Donna and David have to approve the new moderator? Did they approve the current

moderator? Do they participate in the list? What does anyone's approval have

to do with whether or not someone is a GOOD list moderator?

And how in the name of hell would Donna and David get a GOOD, CLEAR PICTURE of

the person who wanted to moderate, anyway, when all they get is the " bitch

reports " like the ones they got about you that were completely and totally

false?

So what the fuck difference does it make what anyone thinks? When's the last

time you really tried real hard to make a bunch of people happy??? Did it work?

And how much did you " enjoy " the experience yourself?

Yeah, that's what I thought... :-)

Anyways, I'm only on there because they were bitching about you, so I went over

to post some TRUE things about you, and then when I got over there, I figure,

what the hell, maybe one of them will fuck up and post something about grids or

something else I don't know much about.

BTW, one night I had a " basic grid seminar " with you, telepathically, and I

thought for shit sure I would remember all of it, which means I didn't record

it... (And contrary to " normal " auditory strategies I have, I can't remember

ANY of it, other than it occurred...) Sometimes I'm an amaaaazzzzing dumb

fuck...

Anyhow, see you soon,

Jim

docspeed2001 <docspeed2001

Mar 8, 2005 7:32 PM

energyhealing-essentialskills

[energyhealing-essentialskills] The Secret Convincer Strategies for

Earth & Water Elements!

Hi group,

The following is an interesting post from Chris to another group

where he will soon become the new moderator.

Chris, I hope it is okay that I reposted some of it here for a

learning process for those of our group? I do mean well, and it'll

probably be fun for you also.

I loved the post because of the way he processes information, and

how he spoon-fed that information to those parties that make

decisions.

Those Earth elements and Water elements are now flocking to him like

bees do to honey!

Amazing!

If anyone wants to have a fun time, I suggest you elicite his basic

13 meta-strategies on how he makes decisions.

I did, and now I know why certain types of people, (Earth and Water

elements to be more specific) like him...

....and more importantly, I know why (if I actually gave a damn)

about why those same personality profiles had negative energies

about how I act and how I think.

It would be a fun drill to do if anyone is interested.

I do know that it was an IMPORTANT DRILL for me to do.

It was important for me to NOTICE THE DIFFERENCES!

Ps. REMEMBER, HIS POST is about ANOTHER GROUP, " NOT " this group.

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> I guess I had hoped that someone would step in and co-ordinate the

> help offered by group members and that there would be a smooth

> transition from one moderator to the next. Unless I have missed

> something, I haven't seen anything concrete come out of this

> discussion and it doesn't feel to me that the discussion is moving

> forward.

> I sat down and reread the emails around this subject and made what

> for me, is a big decision - I am offering to be a moderator for the

> group.I am not the most experienced therapist on the group,nor am

> I the most computer literate. The bottom line is - this group is

> too valuable a resource lose in terms of spreading Energy Medecine

> around the World.

> Sooooo.....I would like to have feedback from the group as it

>stands as to whether or not you would be happy with me taking on

>this responsibility?

> Donna and David would also need to give their approval - or not.

> And finally, xxx, I would need to liaise with you about the

> nuts and bolts of how this works as I haven't a clue. If the

> proposal meets with everyone's approval then I would need an

>idiot's guide to how to modereate a group AND this one in

>particular!

March 9, 2005

Hi jack,

No probs with you posting this at all - it was in the public forum after all.....

I am still waiting for my books on meta strategies so I can't yet work out my own - although I am sure it would be fun and enlightening......or anyone else can work 'em out and post them so I can get even more frustrated that i haven't got the books yet

About the drill....what is it?

Jim, I saw your response to Jack's post *smile* and it's next on my reply list but for now i have a client so it will have to wait even if I am itching to grespond now....

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docspeed2001

energyhealing-essentialskills

Wednesday, March 09, 2005 4:32 AM

[energyhealing-essentialskills] The Secret Convincer Strategies for Earth & Water Elements!

Hi group,The following is an interesting post from Chris to another group where he will soon become the new moderator.Chris, I hope it is okay that I reposted some of it here for a learning process for those of our group? I do mean well, and it'll probably be fun for you also.I loved the post because of the way he processes information, and how he spoon-fed that information to those parties that make decisions.Those Earth elements and Water elements are now flocking to him like bees do to honey! Amazing!If anyone wants to have a fun time, I suggest you elicite his basic 13 meta-strategies on how he makes decisions.I did, and now I know why certain types of people, (Earth and Water elements to be more specific) like him......and more importantly, I know why (if I actually gave a damn) about why those same personality profiles had negative energies about how I act and how I think.It would be a fun drill to do if anyone is interested.I do know that it was an IMPORTANT DRILL for me to do.It was important for me to NOTICE THE DIFFERENCES!Ps. REMEMBER, HIS POST is about ANOTHER GROUP, "NOT" this group.-----------------------------> I guess I had hoped that someone would step in and co-ordinate the> help offered by group members and that there would be a smooth> transition from one moderator to the next. Unless I have missed> something, I haven't seen anything concrete come out of this> discussion and it doesn't feel to me that the discussion is moving> forward.> I sat down and reread the emails around this subject and made what> for me, is a big decision - I am offering to be a moderator for the> group.I am not the most experienced therapist on the group,nor am> I the most computer literate. The bottom line is - this group is> too valuable a resource lose in terms of spreading Energy Medecine> around the World.> Sooooo.....I would like to have feedback from the group as it>stands as to whether or not you would be happy with me taking on >this responsibility?> Donna and David would also need to give their approval - or not.> And finally, xxx, I would need to liaise with you about the> nuts and bolts of how this works as I haven't a clue. If the> proposal meets with everyone's approval then I would need an>idiot's guide to how to modereate a group AND this one in >particular!

March 9, 2005

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your confidence - awesome job or not, I guess I believed in the function of the group enough to step forward and in a way which would be heard.

The reference to Donna and David was in response to the original post from the moderator stating that the appointment would likely be subject to a D & D approval. The web is a wonderful tool (as is Energy Medecine) and I guess not much could be done if a group were set up to discuss a particular practitioners techniques in a way which that practitioner didn't like BUT my sense is that this group (CE) evolved out of Donna's workshops and seminars and as such is something that she and David might wish to keep a long distance eye on. I don't mind that and I take my hat off to D & D for the work they have put in to getting the Energy Medecine message out to the world.

That doesn't of course, mean that other groups can't spring into existence - just that their function might be slightly different. I have met D & D so their judgement of whether or not I would be a good moderator would, I guess, be based on that, on my contributions to the group and to the workshops I have attended. That being said, just because all that comes together doesn't NOT mean that I will be a good moderator for the CE group........

I don't think it was a case of no-one stepping forward to moderate - a number of people stepped forward to offer help. What I found interesting is that the conversation stopped there - in other words no action followed on from it, hence my offer in clear terms, to moderate the group. Meta strategies or not (can you tell I am really bugged by the fact that i haven't got the books yet,) things have moved on and that was my primary objective - there were secondary objectives too and no doubt you have the skills to read what those were - I am damned sure that Jack does and indeed I hoped he would.

My motives for stepping forward are and were many. here's one more to add to the list - my energies can get thrown off by people who are energetically unbalanced so it occurred to me just now that the more people do the drills, the less people there are going to be around to throw me out. This group and the other, are a way of getting the drills out there in the public forum and encouraging people to do them - how's that for a less selfless motive.

Seriously though, at some point energy work will reach a critical mass. Quite what will happen then I don't know but sometimes I visualise a world in which everyone does drills and is energetically balanced - how would it look and how much more could we achieve in such a world. We get glimpses of the awesome strength through the reports from Jack's seminars/workshops, from energy workers in practice and from personal accounts on groups like this. If that were multiplied across the globe that would be awesome.

As for reports on Jack from other people on CE, I dunno what that is about. I like Jack - though I have never met him (at least I don't think I have). It is rare to come across a person who has so much information, knowledge and understanding AND is willing to share it AND give references for the source material.

I like your reasons for staying with the CE group:if 95% of what someone is saying turns me off or worse, then I try very hard to find the 5% that I am going to find useful. maybe people use that strategy with me cos I have a tendency sometimes to ramble

So there you go, thought I would take the time to respond to your post. Both this group and the other have different styles and I enjoy the variety that provides - hopefully I will go some way to maintaining that variety.....

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James R. Knippenberg

energyhealing-essentialskills

Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:39 AM

Re: [energyhealing-essentialskills] The Secret Convincer Strategies for Earth & Water Elements!

Yeah, Doc, real smart. And I think Chris will do an awesome job.I know some of what he did, and that's real neat. But I don't understand why anyone would want to moderate that group. If they want to fall apart and not have a moderator, fuck 'em -- go start a new group.And no disrespect to Donna Eden, here, either... What's this horseshit about Donna and David have to approve the new moderator? Did they approve the current moderator? Do they participate in the list? What does anyone's approval have to do with whether or not someone is a GOOD list moderator?And how in the name of hell would Donna and David get a GOOD, CLEAR PICTURE of the person who wanted to moderate, anyway, when all they get is the "bitch reports" like the ones they got about you that were completely and totally false?So what the fuck difference does it make what anyone thinks? When's the last time you really tried real hard to make a bunch of people happy??? Did it work? And how much did you "enjoy" the experience yourself?Yeah, that's what I thought... :-)Anyways, I'm only on there because they were bitching about you, so I went over to post some TRUE things about you, and then when I got over there, I figure, what the hell, maybe one of them will fuck up and post something about grids or something else I don't know much about.BTW, one night I had a "basic grid seminar" with you, telepathically, and I thought for shit sure I would remember all of it, which means I didn't record it... (And contrary to "normal" auditory strategies I have, I can't rememberANY of it, other than it occurred...) Sometimes I'm an amaaaazzzzing dumb fuck...Anyhow, see you soon,Jimdocspeed2001 <docspeed2001Mar 8, 2005 7:32 PMenergyhealing-essentialskills Subject: [energyhealing-essentialskills] The Secret Convincer Strategies for Earth & Water Elements!Hi group,The following is an interesting post from Chris to another group where he will soon become the new moderator.Chris, I hope it is okay that I reposted some of it here for a learning process for those of our group? I do mean well, and it'll probably be fun for you also.I loved the post because of the way he processes information, and how he spoon-fed that information to those parties that make decisions.Those Earth elements and Water elements are now flocking to him like bees do to honey! Amazing!If anyone wants to have a fun time, I suggest you elicite his basic 13 meta-strategies on how he makes decisions.I did, and now I know why certain types of people, (Earth and Water elements to be more specific) like him......and more importantly, I know why (if I actually gave a damn) about why those same personality profiles had negative energies about how I act and how I think.It would be a fun drill to do if anyone is interested.I do know that it was an IMPORTANT DRILL for me to do.It was important for me to NOTICE THE DIFFERENCES!Ps. REMEMBER, HIS POST is about ANOTHER GROUP, "NOT" this group.-----------------------------> I guess I had hoped that someone would step in and co-ordinate the> help offered by group members and that there would be a smooth> transition from one moderator to the next. Unless I have missed> something, I haven't seen anything concrete come out of this> discussion and it doesn't feel to me that the discussion is moving> forward.> I sat down and reread the emails around this subject and made what> for me, is a big decision - I am offering to be a moderator for the> group.I am not the most experienced therapist on the group,nor am> I the most computer literate. The bottom line is - this group is> too valuable a resource lose in terms of spreading Energy Medecine> around the World.> Sooooo.....I would like to have feedback from the group as it>stands as to whether or not you would be happy with me taking on >this responsibility?> Donna and David would also need to give their approval - or not.> And finally, xxx, I would need to liaise with you about the> nuts and bolts of how this works as I haven't a clue. If the> proposal meets with everyone's approval then I would need an>idiot's guide to how to modereate a group AND this one in >particular!