The Emotional/Energy CAUSE behind the f...

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc: and Group:

 

This may be off topic, but I was wondering if you or anyone was familiar with Somography? One of the premises of it, as I understand it, is that if we get a pain or a physical problem in a particular area of the body, that it has several significant clues as to what is going on. For instance, a pain on the left side of the body, signifies an issue or a problem with a female in your life, or a more passive area of your life, perhaps needing to be more assertive, etc. The right side, signifies the male aspect of that malady.

 

I was wondering if you would know what it would mean (here again I am troubled by my "reverse" phenomenon, that I spoke about previously), if one experiences pain on the left side, yet there was a diagnosis (just today), that there was "something" on the right kidney.....Seems that I feel all of my aches and pains on my left side, yet tests show stuff going on on my right side. So I am wondering if my "issues" are with female or male representation in my body, a' la' Somography.

 

When I tried to remote view my body, I tend to go where I feel the pain, and cannot be objective as to what I see (I am kinda scared, actually, so may not want to see).

 

Should I even try to remote view my body when I am nervous about what I may find? I feel like such a whimp, LOL

 

Thanks,

 

Paulina

[Guest guest]

Hi Paulina,

 

I don't know about somography but I would class what say that what you are describing is symbolism. Meridians, elements, chakras and the physical body each have their own symbolism. What makes this interesting is that there are different views about what each means....

 

For example whilst it is true that some people work with left is female and right is male, I work with the opposite and find that it works perfectly for me and my clients. i usually offer the symbolic values attached to the system I am working and add that this may speak to the person or not, that I am not a god, nor a magician etc etc. I do this because I think that it is easy for people to get caught up in what things might mean and over intellectualise when actually the most important thing is for them to get achieve balance.

 

You can get referred pain (pain that shows up some place other than where the actual problem is).

 

Where do you think the issues lie for you? What speaks to you more - an issue with male or female? Nothing to stop you from having both of course.....or an issue with one which manifests through the other ( a bit like having a bad day at work and coming home and kicking the cat)....

 

I am not sure I have explained this particularly well. Hope it helps some. i would be happy to go deeper on this discussion if you would like more info.

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Pandora51

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:20 PM

Re: The Emotional/Energy CAUSE behind the f...

Hi Doc: and Group:This may be off topic, but I was wondering if you or anyone was familiar with Somography? One of the premises of it, as I understand it, is that if we get a pain or a physical problem in a particular area of the body, that it has several significant clues as to what is going on. For instance, a pain on the left side of the body, signifies an issue or a problem with a female in your life, or a more passive area of your life, perhaps needing to be more assertive, etc. The right side, signifies the male aspect of that malady.I was wondering if you would know what it would mean (here again I am troubled by my "reverse" phenomenon, that I spoke about previously), if one experiences pain on the left side, yet there was a diagnosis (just today), that there was "something" on the right kidney.....Seems that I feel all of my aches and pains on my left side, yet tests show stuff going on on my right side. So I am wondering if my "issues" are with female or male representation in my body, a' la' Somography.When I tried to remote view my body, I tend to go where I feel the pain, and cannot be objective as to what I see (I am kinda scared, actually, so may not want to see). Should I even try to remote view my body when I am nervous about what I may find? I feel like such a whimp, LOLThanks,Paulina

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/7/05 11:43:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, justmailjaya writes:

 

 

 

Hi Paulina,

 

This is my first leter. I am really amazed the same

thing has happened. I have pain on the left side and

have somethig on my right kidney and in my right

breast. I was wondering wha tis wrong with me. I am

afraid ot remote view my body. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jaya

---

 

Hi Jaya:

 

I wish that I could suggest something to you that would make it easier for you to handle what ever "this" is. As for me, I am having a CAT scan tomorrow of my kidneys and in the mean time, am using some of the healing techniques that I have learned in the past, but have not used on me. Things like Pranic Healing, Quantum Touch, EFT and Silva Mind Control. and am reading things by Serge Kahili King and listening to his audio tapes for healing.....and practicing some of those visualizations where you send light and love to the part of the body that you feel drawn to with your attention.

 

I was actually surprised that I had pain on my left side rather than my right (I think for now I am subscribing to the notion that the left is my female side)...I do have "issues" with a particular male who is passive aggressive and rather sarcastic most of the time, which irritates the heck out of me. So I see this as a passive aggressive response (having the pain on the left, rather than the right, where there is "something" on the kidney). This of course, is all not real, but I will take that to mean that I need to stop resisting and blocking his behavior, because I think I am creating blocks in my body, trying not to deal with him....but just tolerating the crapola.

 

Perhaps, this also tells me that rather than accumulate knowledge and ONLY using it for the benefit of my patients, it is time that I feel worthy enough to use it to better my life. I didn't remote view myself, cause I am afraid, but since I know at least that there is a kidney problem, I just plopped myself on to my screen, and sorta did stuff that felt right to my body, sorta clean it up and spruce it up, and remove anything that didn't belong there.

 

I wish you Perfect Health.

 

Paulina

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/7/05 5:05:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hunter.cris writes:

 

 

Where do you think the issues lie for you? What speaks to you more - an issue with male or female? Nothing to stop you from having both of course.....or an issue with one which manifests through the other (a bit like having a bad day at work and coming home and kicking the cat)....

I am not sure I have explained this particularly well. Hope it helps some. i would be happy to go deeper on this discussion if you would like more info.

 

 

 

 

Hi Cris: I think the problem might have to do with a male, possibly causing the sensitive side of me some pain (female). I do understand it is all symbolic, but it is sometimes helpful to see who or what in someone's life represents the block and inevitably disharmony in the system which, of course, causes it to be out of balance. Having said that, even if I do suspect that the problem is symbolically with a male, and I really do not know what to do about it. It is difficult to see oneself objectively. I can help my patients/clients make sense out of their thoughts and impression, etc., yet feel a bit helpless to do the same for myself.

 

What I really want.....is to have people remote view me and tell me all is fine and dandy, LOL.....big baby that I am.

 

Thanks Cris for sharing your ideas with me.

 

Paulina

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/7/05 11:21:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, b_joki writes:

 

Hello Doc,

I have suffered from asthma since birth and I am interested in what type of attitudes underlie this disease. I treat the symptoms with medication and avoiding environmental triggers. I have recently been working on the yogi breath to try to help cure me of this ailment.

thank you,

Brandon

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Brandon:

 

I am not Doc, but thought if you would like I could quote from Imagineering by Serge Kahili King, as it relates to asthma. It is based on the principle of Somography. I don't know it's validity or lack of it, I am new to it.

 

"Below are some of the typical conflicts that an asthmatic may experience:

 

- a need for dependence (usually starting with a parent) and a desire for independence.

 

- being out of harmony with the environment.

 

- a desire for and a fear of being assertive (the fear is because others might oppose or reject).

 

- fear of not doing what others want or expect and resentment at being manipulated.

 

- guilt from not living up to expectations.

 

- loss of a loved one or rejection by others.

 

Asthmatics also have a tendency to experience the anniversary syndrome. When the conflicts are not so severe, the result may simply be a nonspecific "ache" in the chest."

 

Hope that helps.

 

Paulina

[Guest guest]

Hi Paulina,

 

This is my first leter. I am really amazed the same

thing has happened. I have pain on the left side and

have somethig on my right kidney and in my right

breast. I was wondering wha tis wrong with me. I am

afraid ot remote view my body. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jaya

--- Pandora51 wrote:

> Hi Doc: and Group:

>

> This may be off topic, but I was wondering if you or

> anyone was familiar with

> Somography? One of the premises of it, as I

> understand it, is that if we get

> a pain or a physical problem in a particular area of

> the body, that it has

> several significant clues as to what is going on.

> For instance, a pain on the

> left side of the body, signifies an issue or a

> problem with a female in your

> life, or a more passive area of your life, perhaps

> needing to be more

> assertive, etc. The right side, signifies the male

> aspect of that malady.

>

> I was wondering if you would know what it would mean

> (here again I am

> troubled by my " reverse " phenomenon, that I spoke

> about previously), if one

> experiences pain on the left side, yet there was a

> diagnosis (just today), that there

> was " something " on the right kidney.....Seems that I

> feel all of my aches and

> pains on my left side, yet tests show stuff going on

> on my right side. So I am

> wondering if my " issues " are with female or male

> representation in my body,

> a' la' Somography.

>

> When I tried to remote view my body, I tend to go

> where I feel the pain, and

> cannot be objective as to what I see (I am kinda

> scared, actually, so may not

> want to see).

>

> Should I even try to remote view my body when I am

> nervous about what I may

> find? I feel like such a whimp, LOL

>

> Thanks,

>

> Paulina

>

 

 

 

 

 

Make your home page

http://www./r/hs

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/7/05 5:44:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, b_joki writes:

 

 

Paulina,

That information is very useful. I think a lot of those symptoms apply to me. Now I just need to come up with ways to address those issues.

Thanks a lot

 

 

Glad I could Help Brandon:

 

The book, Imagineering for Health, by King might be helpful in exploring ways to overcome some physical maladies.

 

Paulina

[Guest guest]

Paulina,

That information is very useful. I think a lot of those symptoms apply to me. Now I just need to come up with ways to address those issues.

 

Thanks a lot

 

BrandonPandora51 wrote:

In a message dated 4/7/05 11:21:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, b_joki writes:

Hello Doc,I have suffered from asthma since birth and I am interested in what type of attitudes underlie this disease. I treat the symptoms with medication and avoiding environmental triggers. I have recently been working on the yogi breath to try to help cure me of this ailment.thank you,Brandon

Hi Brandon:I am not Doc, but thought if you would like I could quote from Imagineering by Serge Kahili King, as it relates to asthma. It is based on the principle of Somography. I don't know it's validity or lack of it, I am new to it."Below are some of the typical conflicts that an asthmatic may experience:- a need for dependence (usually starting with a parent) and a desire for independence.- being out of harmony with the environment.- a desire for and a fear of being assertive (the fear is because others might oppose or reject).- fear of not doing what others want or expect and resentment at being manipulated.- guilt from not living up to expectations.- loss of a loved one or rejection by others.Asthmatics also have a tendency

to experience the anniversary syndrome. When the conflicts are not so severe, the result may simply be a nonspecific "ache" in the chest."Hope that helps.Paulina

Better first dates. More second dates. Personals

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/7/05 11:43:04 AM, justmailjaya writes:

 

 

For instance, a pain on the

> left side of the body, signifies an issue or a

> problem with a female in your

> life, or a more passive area of your life, perhaps

> needing to be more

> assertive, etc.  The right side, signifies the male

> aspect of that malady.

 

In Jungian analysis, the left side is the feminine, giving, side. I can be a problem

with someone else, or a problem with yourself. Such as not taking care of yourself,

putting others needs before yours, using up your energies, having your energies

drained because you feel you must help everyone and sacrifice your own health

for them. You KNOW what to do. You've written it.

The Right side is the active, masculine, taking. So you want to balance your

energies so that you can both give and take, act and feel/intuit.

My husband has been disabled for a couple years, and I often have pain on my

right side--tendenitis in the arm and shoulder. I know part of that is that I have

had to be overactive to compensate for his inability to be a full partner and

be active. So, I have needed to supply my left/feminine's needs for love, support,

partnership, etc., in order to resolve the pain on the right side.

I also pay attention to dream imagery--but I already said I was Jungian-ish.

Many blessings for vibrant health in your future.

Sue

 

 

 

www.coachdrgridley.com

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/9/05 8:53:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, coachdrgridley writes:

 

In Jungian analysis, the left side is the feminine, giving, side. I can be a problem

with someone else, or a problem with yourself. Such as not taking care of yourself,

putting others needs before yours, using up your energies, having your energies

drained because you feel you must help everyone and sacrifice your own health

for them. You KNOW what to do. You've written it.

The Right side is the active, masculine, taking. So you want to balance your

energies so that you can both give and take, act and feel/intuit.

My husband has been disabled for a couple years, and I often have pain on my

right side--tendenitis in the arm and shoulder. I know part of that is that I have

had to be overactive to compensate for his inability to be a full partner and

be active. So, I have needed to supply my left/feminine's needs for love, support,

partnership, etc., in order to resolve the pain on the right side.

I also pay attention to dream imagery--but I already said I was Jungian-ish.

Many blessings for vibrant health in your future.

Sue

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sue:

 

I think that what you say about the feminine and masculine energies being out of balance are right on. I have been in the "giving" mode for most of my life, and feel very uncomfortable receiving. It somehow makes me feel vulnerable and needy. Giving, helping , advising, being leaned on makes me feel strong and competent and in control. I guess I can fool others, but perhaps my body is saying something different. I don't like feeling weak, but the aches in my body, at times force me to take care of myself. I am not quite sure how to balance, this male/female disharmony in my body, in practical terms.. Thinking in terms of more balance is a very good starting point, though. Thank you.

 

Paulina

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I have been neglecting myself lately. 3

years back my husband passed away at the age of 54. I

am amazed at the similarity of the pain.

Wishing u all the bestfor present and future,

Jay

[Guest guest]

,

Pandora51@a... wrote:

> Hi Doc: and Group:

>

> This may be off topic, but I was wondering if you or anyone was

familiar with

> Somography? One of the premises of it, as I understand it, is

that if we get

> a pain or a physical problem in a particular area of the body,

that it has

> several significant clues as to what is going on. For instance,

a pain on the

> left side of the body, signifies an issue or a problem with a

female in your

> life, or a more passive area of your life, perhaps needing to be

more

> assertive, etc.

 

Big picture, energy wise, it seems to make sense.

 

Yang body energies are on one side.

 

Yin body energies are on the other side.

 

To learn this the energy medicine way, learn the Star Fish, and all

the Yang meridians, Yin meridians, with the Flow cycles and the

Control cycles.

 

DR.John M. La Tourrette

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/9/05 10:35:15 PM, Pandora51 writes:

 

 

I have been in the "giving" mode for most of my life, and feel very uncomfortable receiving. It somehow makes me feel vulnerable and needy.  Giving, helping , advising, being leaned on makes me feel strong and competent and in control.  I guess I can fool others, but perhaps my body is saying something different.  I don't like feeling weak, but the aches in my body, at times force me to take care of myself.  I am not quite sure how to balance, this male/female disharmony in my body, in practical terms.. Thinking in terms of more balance is a very good starting point, though.  Thank you.

 

Paulina

 

This is a classic description of many people who develop Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and/or

Fibromyalgia. You end up "running on empty." Trust me, I know from experience. If you

don't listen to the messages from Spirit, you will keep getting stronger reminders until

you have no choice

 

One thing I wanted to make clear about the balance and didn't do in the first note:

just as there is yin and yang, there is masculine and feminine energy (animus and

anima in Jungian work). They are both all part of one, dancing in interplay. Your problems

with the masculine can just as easily be your own animus rather than an external source.

Take care of yourself,

Sue

 

 

 

www.coachdrgridley.com

[Guest guest]

Paulina and Michael,

 

This is called " Borrowing Benefits " by Gary Craig and you can find out more

about it from his site. www.emofree.com

 

Good Luck with you issues.

 

Utilize Everything,

Dr. Houston (Doc Results) Vetter

http://www.achieve-your-potential.com

 

P.S. IF you want to handle all the different aspects that can come up with

EFT, try Shallow PEAT -it is like EFT on Steriods.

 

At 10:16 AM 4/11/2005, you wrote:

 

 

>Hi Paulina,

>

>Something you could try for your issue(s): when doing EFT on your

>clients, think of your issue before your client taps out theres.

>Then go through the EFT routine with your client as per normal. Make

>sure you do a SUDS reading before and after on your issue. Let us

>know your results. By the way, you are both tapping together.

>

>We did this at a David Feinstein workshop in London a few years ago,

>it's surprising how those SUDS came down, it made a believer out of

>me anyway.

>

>Regards,

>

>Michael.

>

> ,

>Pandora51@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 4/11/05 8:17:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > hunter.cris@w... writes:

> >

> > > It sounds like this could be a good place for EFT - can't

>remember if you

> > > are familiar with it. Accepting that even though you may not

>be sure how to

> > > find that balance, how to receive etc etc....

> > >

> > > Cris

> > >

> >

> > Hi Cris:

> >

> > I do a lot of EFT with clients/patients; never thought of doing

>that on

> > myself on this " issue " .

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Paulina

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/11/05 9:08:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, coachdrgridley writes:

 

 

This is a classic description of many people who develop Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and/or

Fibromyalgia. You end up "running on empty." Trust me, I know from experience. If you

don't listen to the messages from Spirit, you will keep getting stronger reminders until

you have no choice

 

 

 

Sue:

 

You are so right about the getting stronger reminders. I tell others that same thing, yet failed miserably to listen to my own signals. I had been diagnosed with Ebsteins Bar years ago (I think it is along the line of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome). I remember telling a friend that I felt like I was "running on empty", yet felt like I was expected to keep giving anyway. It's funny that you should use that phrase, it's like you read my mind.

 

Paulina

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc Houston,

 

Borrowing Benefits eh, nice stuff.

 

You mean you could get a group of people together to do a

demonstration of EFT. Find a willing volunteer, get him or her up in

front of the group, and just before doing the EFT drill, tell an

isomorphic metaphor about " How we all just may have something we'd

like to work on, perhaps some negative Thing we'd like to make less

negative, and how we could think of that thing and give it a rating

of somewhere between zero and ten on the SUDS scale " .

 

Then run the EFT drill on the victim, er, volunteer, get his or her

SUDS rating down to zero. Then ask the group where their own personal

SUDS rating were, NOW. And find that ALL the ratings

had " accidentally " gone down?

 

Does that work? Do you think? I know it does. We did it last november

in Medford.

 

And then there's Remote EFT. Hmmm... Can this be done with animals

too?

 

Thanks, and all the best,

 

-Mark

 

P.S. (I've always wondered if there was a way to do reverse (remote)

EFT, but naah, that's off topic, eh?) (Shhh!)

 

, docresults

<docresults@h...> wrote:

>

> Paulina and Michael,

>

> This is called " Borrowing Benefits " by Gary Craig and you can find

out more > about it from his site. www.emofree.com

>

> Good Luck with you issues.

>

> Utilize Everything,

> Dr. Houston (Doc Results) Vetter

> http://www.achieve-your-potential.com

>

> P.S. IF you want to handle all the different aspects that can come

up with > EFT, try Shallow PEAT -it is like EFT on Steriods.

>

> At 10:16 AM 4/11/2005, you wrote:

>

 

***********snip***********

[Guest guest]

Coach/ Paulina:

 

 

>Giving, helping , advising, being leaned on makes me feel strong and

competent and in control. I guess I can fool others, but perhaps my body is

saying something different. I don't like feeling weak

Paulina.

--

 

Your feelings are genuine rewards for the giving you do, Paulina, but the

other side of the coin is the feeling of exhaustion.

 

Balance is everything.

 

The heart chakra is balanced by opening to the universe on the inbreath, and

exhausting waste and relaxing on the out breath.

If you don't exhaust, you'll feel exhausted.

The tide comes in and the tide goes out.

Love everything and everyone unconditionally including YOURSELF.

 

The Ego is the keeper of the body temple and it's function is to serve by

keeping that body temple in top shape so the universe can use it for the

giving function.

The Ego is there for a purpose and should not be repressed but instead stay

balanced with the other pole [agape].

Take time for your self and for recharging. Run, walk, breathe the fresh

air in the sunshine and totally relax.

It's not the load you carry that causes the stress, it is " Holding " the load

with no re-charging time.

Here's a physical manifestation of this metaphor from. Dr. Peter Uhlmann,

on the importance of Recieving:

Dr. Uhlmann is speaking in regards to the martial art form and taiji, but

the principle is applicible to all interactions with others.

Energy is Energy whether in physical manifestation or force.

 

rusty

 

http://home.prcn.org/petechi/Pages/article_receive.html

 

-

-

coachdrgridley

 

Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:30 PM

Re: The Emotional/Energy CAUSE

behind the f...

 

 

 

In a message dated 4/9/05 10:35:15 PM, Pandora51 writes:

 

 

 

I have been in the " giving " mode for most of my life, and feel very

uncomfortable receiving. It somehow makes me feel vulnerable and needy.

Giving, helping , advising, being leaned on makes me feel strong and

competent and in control. I guess I can fool others, but perhaps my body is

saying something different. I don't like feeling weak, but the aches in my

body, at times force me to take care of myself. I am not quite sure how to

balance, this male/female disharmony in my body, in practical terms..

Thinking in terms of more balance is a very good starting point, though.

Thank you.

 

Paulina

 

 

This is a classic description of many people who develop Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome and/or

Fibromyalgia. You end up " running on empty. " Trust me, I know from

experience. If you

don't listen to the messages from Spirit, you will keep getting stronger

reminders until

you have no choice

 

One thing I wanted to make clear about the balance and didn't do in the

first note:

just as there is yin and yang, there is masculine and feminine energy

(animus and

anima in Jungian work). They are both all part of one, dancing in

interplay. Your problems

with the masculine can just as easily be your own animus rather than an

external source.

Take care of yourself,

Sue

[Guest guest]

HAHAHAHA You know the magic question: " Well if I could make the (remote)

installation of 'negative' emotions on topic for the

group, how would I? "

 

What are some reasons why you might want to do that? Besides revenge. Think of

a " nice " reason why.

 

Think in terms of propulsion systems.

 

Away from and Towards.

 

Which one is better?

 

Well, when you have a well-formed outcome, then a COMBINATION of Away from

moving Towards is a real good propulsion strategy.

 

So how would you install one of those?

 

Now how do you do that remotely? When is the best time to program? What are

the specific steps? How do you combine " compulsion " and " impulsion " , where

compulsion refers to an outside influence " compelling " them to do something and

impulsion refers to them just naturally having the idea as if it were their own

thought.

 

Thanks for the posts! Good to see you over here on this list too!

 

Jim

 

 

Mark Holt <severian6

Apr 11, 2005 10:41 PM

 

Re: The Emotional/Energy CAUSE behind

the f...

 

 

-Mark

 

P.S. (I've always wondered if there was a way to do reverse (remote)

EFT, but naah, that's off topic, eh?) (Shhh!)