Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 hi everyone, I have two questions about RVRI. the other day i was doing the drill for RV in bed before going to sleep. I drifted off to sleep. the person i was remote viewing then told me the next day that she felt like I had been in her head that morning. Apparently she woke up with a start at approx the time I finally got off to sleep. then last night i was doing three scenes. As I was putting together the solution I kept getting answers. As soon as I put something into the solution the answer came about how to do it. That seemed too quick for me so i figured i was probably in " mental " mode as opposed to being connected. Anyone? Cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Hi Chris, Please is it possible for you to describe the drill or if it can be found in Donna's book? Thank you, Kate hi everyone,I have two questions about RVRI. the other day i was doing the drill for RV in bed before going to sleep. I drifted off to sleep. the person i was remote viewing then told me the next day that she felt like I had been in her head that morning. Apparently she woke up with a start at approx the time I finally got off to sleep.then last night i was doing three scenes. As I was putting together the solution I kept getting answers. As soon as I put something into the solution the answer came about how to do it. That seemed too quick for me so i figured i was probably in "mental" mode as opposed to being connected.Anyone?Cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Hi Chris, ********** You Wrote: As soon as I put something into > the solution the answer came about how to do it. That seemed too > quick for me so i figured i was probably in " mental " mode as opposed > to being connected. ********** Ah Ha! Mental Mode eh? This happens to me all the time. And it started when I accepted just how hooked up my " lower mind " and my " higher mind " were, and how they REALLY liked communicating with my " middle mind " . Are your solutions correct? Can you test? I'll bet they are. Give a great big Thank You to your Unihipili (lower self) and your Aumakua (higher self) for liking you so much that you all are on speaking terms. ;-) All the best, -Mark P.S. This is Good. See what happens when you do the drills? And combine them? Were your radient circuits turn on? How else can this kind of flowing of consciousness be achieved? healingenergies- essentialskills , " crishunter_energie " <hunter.cris@w...> wrote: > > hi everyone, > > I have two questions about RVRI. the other day i was doing the drill > for RV in bed before going to sleep. I drifted off to sleep. the > person i was remote viewing then told me the next day that she felt > like I had been in her head that morning. Apparently she woke up with > a start at approx the time I finally got off to sleep. > > then last night i was doing three scenes. As I was putting together > the solution I kept getting answers. As soon as I put something into > the solution the answer came about how to do it. That seemed too > quick for me so i figured i was probably in " mental " mode as opposed > to being connected. > > Anyone? > > Cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hi Chris, Yes, I've had instant solutions using the 3 scenes program too. Like a " lightbulb turning on " kind of a thing it happens that fast. Have not drifted off to sleep while doing RVRI, since I use it most often for casework when I am not sleepy, so no feedback for you on that one yet. I'll have to try it. What I've noticed though is that sometimes when I do the mental video I'll have a very vivid, sometimes lucid dream, of the solution or relevant indications that night. Just wondering if that is a common thing? Anyone? Lori healingenergies- essentialskills , " crishunter_energie " <hunter.cris@w...> wrote: > > hi everyone, > > I have two questions about RVRI. the other day i was doing the drill > for RV in bed before going to sleep. I drifted off to sleep. the > person i was remote viewing then told me the next day that she felt > like I had been in her head that morning. Apparently she woke up with > a start at approx the time I finally got off to sleep. > > then last night i was doing three scenes. As I was putting together > the solution I kept getting answers. As soon as I put something into > the solution the answer came about how to do it. That seemed too > quick for me so i figured i was probably in " mental " mode as opposed > to being connected. > > Anyone? > > Cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 First off, do NOT tell anyone that you know Remote Viewing and Remote Influencing. Second, when you intend to do RI during sleep time, be specific as to the outcome. People get spooked when they look up at night and see someone " floating " or " standing " in a corner of the room looking at them or wake up feeling as if someone else is inside their head. Make sure the suggestions are in first person so it is as if the person is having the thoughts themselves. And if you become aware that they have noticed you are there, again, using their types of thoughts and expressions, suggest to them that it's just them thinking on their own. " Well, this is how I think anyways, " Or " That's stupid. Why would someone influence me to think what I already think " or whatever feels appropriate at the time. Notice that when the Soviets did their experiments, the " subject " always knew when they were being influenced because the person doing the influencing was doing a remote hypnosis experiment to control the person via remote hypnosis, using telepathy instead of spoken words. However, when you think as if you are them, and you think using their thought processes and their expressions and their locations for things, it is very difficult for them to differentiate between the thoughts you are putting inside their head and their own thoughts. Also, when you program to wake up or program to send the message at the time when the person is most easily influenced, you may find that you are sending them the suggestions at a point in the sleep cycle that they just naturally have complete amnesia for the suggestions, but the suggestions still have the intended effect, just as they would via hypnosis. It's usually better off if they are NOT aware that we are communicating with them subjectively, unless there is some reason why it is necessary for them to be consciously aware of the communication. It looks like you are starting to get really good with the techniques! Have fun! Thanks for the post! Jim crishunter_energie <hunter.cris Apr 26, 2005 6:15 AM RVRI - too quick? hi everyone, I have two questions about RVRI. the other day i was doing the drill for RV in bed before going to sleep. I drifted off to sleep. the person i was remote viewing then told me the next day that she felt like I had been in her head that morning. Apparently she woke up with a start at approx the time I finally got off to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hi Mark, thanks for your reply. I can't figure out a way to test if the answers are what will " work " other than by trying it.....and as it is a course of action that would not be in keeping with how I would normally act, I am EFT ing my fear around the issue. The fact that it is NOT how i would normally choose to act is one thing that made me think maybe it was the right thing to do......LOL In terms of the flowing consciousness thing - I think I get this kind of connection during sessions with clients. Up until I studied the RVRI cds I just used to let my vision go foggy and " went inside " " . Sorry, I know that isn't very technical but that was how I used to do it. I would then just wait and see what happened....where I should put my hands..;what I should say etc etc. As for my SFs, I guess they probably were activated.... And yeah, I do thank me and the universe every day for making things possible. - " Mark Holt " <severian6 Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:41 PM Re: RVRI - too quick? > > > Hi Chris, > > ********** > You Wrote: As soon as I put something into > the solution the answer > came about how to do it. That seemed too > quick for me so i figured > i was probably in " mental " mode as opposed > to being connected. > ********** > > Ah Ha! Mental Mode eh? > > This happens to me all the time. And it started when I accepted just > how hooked up my " lower mind " and my " higher mind " were, and how they > REALLY liked communicating with my " middle mind " . > > Are your solutions correct? Can you test? > > I'll bet they are. > > Give a great big Thank You to your Unihipili (lower self) and your > Aumakua (higher self) for liking you so much that you all are on > speaking terms. ;-) > > All the best, > > -Mark > > P.S. This is Good. See what happens when you do the drills? And > combine them? Were your radient circuits turn on? How else can this > kind of flowing of consciousness be achieved? > > > healingenergies- > essentialskills , " crishunter_energie " > <hunter.cris@w...> wrote: >> >> hi everyone, >> >> I have two questions about RVRI. the other day i was doing the > drill > for RV in bed before going to sleep. I drifted off to > sleep. the > person i was remote viewing then told me the next day > that she felt > like I had been in her head that morning. Apparently > she woke up with > a start at approx the time I finally got off to > sleep. >> >> then last night i was doing three scenes. As I was putting > together > the solution I kept getting answers. As soon as I put > something into > the solution the answer came about how to do it. > That seemed too > quick for me so i figured i was probably > in " mental " mode as opposed > to being connected. >> >> Anyone? >> >> Cris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hi kelmie, No, it is not in Donna's book. Jack mentionned some posts back that he had the material for sale and I bought a copy... It is a Jose Silva method and I have to say that I am finding it both fun and excellent. I don't think the process lends itself to a description over the web - this would be doing a disservice both to the drill and to its creator. The technique is called remote viewing and remote influencing. cris - ketayun Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:27 PM RE: RVRI - too quick? Hi Chris, Please is it possible for you to describe the drill or if it can be found in Donna's book? Thank you, Kate hi everyone,I have two questions about RVRI. the other day i was doing the drill for RV in bed before going to sleep. I drifted off to sleep. the person i was remote viewing then told me the next day that she felt like I had been in her head that morning. Apparently she woke up with a start at approx the time I finally got off to sleep.then last night i was doing three scenes. As I was putting together the solution I kept getting answers. As soon as I put something into the solution the answer came about how to do it. That seemed too quick for me so i figured i was probably in "mental" mode as opposed to being connected.Anyone?Cris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hi Lori and thanks for your input this was faster than a lightbulb even - it was like as I thought the step into the video, the answer was there. I didn't intend to fall asleep - i was tired. I wondered whether falling alseep was a part of what happened - kind of like carrying on the process that my conscious self was too pooped to finish..... I haven't had the dreamlike experience you describe. I am waking up earlier than usual and find that if I lower my consciousness at this point then I have flashes of seeing people I have RVd before. It first happened by " accident " but seems to be a recurring theme now. It is a little wierd - almost like once I have been somewhere I maintain a link and can go there again much faster even without conscious intention. > > > Hi Chris, > > Yes, I've had instant solutions using the 3 scenes program too. Like > a " lightbulb turning on " kind of a thing it happens that fast. > > Have not drifted off to sleep while doing RVRI, since I use it most > often for casework when I am not sleepy, so no feedback for you on > that one yet. I'll have to try it. > > What I've noticed though is that sometimes when I do the mental video > I'll have a very vivid, sometimes lucid dream, of the solution or > relevant indications that night. Just wondering if that is a common > thing? Anyone? > > Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hi Jim, That's one of the spooky things - the person DIDN'T know that I was learning the technique. We met up the next day and she said " Damn it Cris, will you learn how to control your power - you were in my head this morning and it woke me up! " . I wasn't using the RI aspect either - I was just practicing viewing..... Thanks for the " how to " aspects of your post - this is really useful. As for getting good with the techniques, I dunno, I feel like a real beginner but I am enjoying playing which is the main thing...... Hmmmm maybe i need to work on my resistance to being good/expert at something. I sense an aspect of " I only got this a few weeks ago - how could I possibly be achieving mastery? " . Interesting..... All the best- " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:11 AM Re: RVRI - too quick? > > > First off, do NOT tell anyone that you know Remote Viewing and Remote > Influencing. > > Second, when you intend to do RI during sleep time, be specific as to the > outcome. People get spooked when they look up at night and see someone > " floating " or " standing " in a corner of the room looking at them or wake > up feeling as if someone else is inside their head. > > Make sure the suggestions are in first person so it is as if the person is > having the thoughts themselves. And if you become aware that they have > noticed you are there, again, using their types of thoughts and > expressions, suggest to them that it's just them thinking on their own. > " Well, this is how I think anyways, " Or " That's stupid. Why would someone > influence me to think what I already think " or whatever feels appropriate > at the time. > > Notice that when the Soviets did their experiments, the " subject " always > knew when they were being influenced because the person doing the > influencing was doing a remote hypnosis experiment to control the person > via remote hypnosis, using telepathy instead of spoken words. > > However, when you think as if you are them, and you think using their > thought processes and their expressions and their locations for things, it > is very difficult for them to differentiate between the thoughts you are > putting inside their head and their own thoughts. > > Also, when you program to wake up or program to send the message at the > time when the person is most easily influenced, you may find that you are > sending them the suggestions at a point in the sleep cycle that they just > naturally have complete amnesia for the suggestions, but the suggestions > still have the intended effect, just as they would via hypnosis. > > It's usually better off if they are NOT aware that we are communicating > with them subjectively, unless there is some reason why it is necessary > for them to be consciously aware of the communication. > > It looks like you are starting to get really good with the techniques! > Have fun! Thanks for the post! > > Jim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hi Chris, " Lightbulb turning on " . I guess it's kind of a figure of speech I tend to loosly use, kind of like when you get a great revelation of an answer in a instant, like a light going on in your head, something that seems perfect that you could never have dreamed up all by yourself if you tried. One of those " Aah haa! " moments. Eureka! I guess that's what I mean, kind of hard to put into words. Sometimes I find that I don't even need to do all three scenes, just as you say, the answer will come right as I begin to form the question in my mind and I don't get to finish the scenes. Isn't this fun?! Lori , " hunter.cris " <hunter.cris@w...> wrote: > Hi Lori and thanks for your input > > this was faster than a lightbulb even - it was like as I thought the step > into the video, the answer was there. > > I didn't intend to fall asleep - i was tired. I wondered whether falling > alseep was a part of what happened - kind of like carrying on the process > that my conscious self was too pooped to finish..... > > I haven't had the dreamlike experience you describe. I am waking up earlier > than usual and find that if I lower my consciousness at this point then I > have flashes of seeing people I have RVd before. It first happened by > " accident " but seems to be a recurring theme now. It is a little wierd - > almost like once I have been somewhere I maintain a link and can go there > again much faster even without conscious intention. > > Cris > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > Yes, I've had instant solutions using the 3 scenes program too. Like > > a " lightbulb turning on " kind of a thing it happens that fast. > > > > Have not drifted off to sleep while doing RVRI, since I use it most > > often for casework when I am not sleepy, so no feedback for you on > > that one yet. I'll have to try it. > > > > What I've noticed though is that sometimes when I do the mental video > > I'll have a very vivid, sometimes lucid dream, of the solution or > > relevant indications that night. Just wondering if that is a common > > thing? Anyone? > > > > Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hi Chris, Why don't you go into Hakalau and then energy test the STATEMENT e.g. 'Mailing my sales copies to affluent areas will bring me the right type of clients I want'. Yes or No? I agree use EFT to first get rid of any issues, then you can do the energy testing. Do you know timelines? Great skill to use, go into the future you who has achieved your goal, associate in and then step to the side and look back at how you did it. Get ready for the flood of ideas to come your way - never do it at theta though you may get so much more ;> You can also bless your projects and your clients (at level). These drills are on the RV/RI course by Doc. Regards, Michael. healingenergies- essentialskills , " hunter.cris " <hunter.cris@w...> wrote: > Hi Mark, > thanks for your reply. > > I can't figure out a way to test if the answers are what will " work " other > than by trying it.....and as it is a course of action that would not be in > keeping with how I would normally act, I am EFT ing my fear around the > issue. The fact that it is NOT how i would normally choose to act is one > thing that made me think maybe it was the right thing to do......LOL > > In terms of the flowing consciousness thing - I think I get this kind of > connection during sessions with clients. Up until I studied the RVRI cds I > just used to let my vision go foggy and " went inside " " . Sorry, I know that > isn't very technical but that was how I used to do it. I would then just > wait and see what happened....where I should put my hands..;what I should > say etc etc. > > As for my SFs, I guess they probably were activated.... > > And yeah, I do thank me and the universe every day for making things > possible. > > Cris > - > " Mark Holt " <severian6@h...> > > Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:41 PM > Re: RVRI - too quick? > > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > ********** > > You Wrote: As soon as I put something into > the solution the answer > > came about how to do it. That seemed too > quick for me so i figured > > i was probably in " mental " mode as opposed > to being connected. > > ********** > > > > Ah Ha! Mental Mode eh? > > > > This happens to me all the time. And it started when I accepted just > > how hooked up my " lower mind " and my " higher mind " were, and how they > > REALLY liked communicating with my " middle mind " . > > > > Are your solutions correct? Can you test? > > > > I'll bet they are. > > > > Give a great big Thank You to your Unihipili (lower self) and your > > Aumakua (higher self) for liking you so much that you all are on > > speaking terms. ;-) > > > > All the best, > > > > -Mark > > > > P.S. This is Good. See what happens when you do the drills? And > > combine them? Were your radient circuits turn on? How else can this > > kind of flowing of consciousness be achieved? > > > > > > healingenergies- > > essentialskills , " crishunter_energie " > > <hunter.cris@w...> wrote: > >> > >> hi everyone, > >> > >> I have two questions about RVRI. the other day i was doing the > > drill > for RV in bed before going to sleep. I drifted off to > > sleep. the > person i was remote viewing then told me the next day > > that she felt > like I had been in her head that morning. Apparently > > she woke up with > a start at approx the time I finally got off to > > sleep. > >> > >> then last night i was doing three scenes. As I was putting > > together > the solution I kept getting answers. As soon as I put > > something into > the solution the answer came about how to do it. > > That seemed too > quick for me so i figured i was probably > > in " mental " mode as opposed > to being connected. > >> > >> Anyone? > >> > >> Cris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Thanks Michael, good idea to go to Hakalau. I will try this - it will give me an opportunity to try out a new skill!!! It's interesting that the emotional content didn't interfere with the three scenes yet I feel it is getting in the way now that I have the solution!!! Pesky things emotions huh? - " dstbod " <dstbod Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:57 PM Re: RVRI - too quick? > > > Hi Chris, > > Why don't you go into Hakalau and then energy test the STATEMENT > e.g. 'Mailing my sales copies to affluent areas will bring me the > right type of clients I want'. Yes or No? > > I agree use EFT to first get rid of any issues, then you can do the > energy testing. Do you know timelines? Great skill to use, go into > the future you who has achieved your goal, associate in and then > step to the side and look back at how you did it. Get ready for the > flood of ideas to come your way - never do it at theta though you > may get so much more ;> > > You can also bless your projects and your clients (at level). These > drills are on the RV/RI course by Doc. > > Regards, > > Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 > " Lightbulb turning on " . I guess it's kind of a figure of speech I > tend to loosly use, kind of like when you get a great revelation of > an answer in a instant, like a light going on in your head, - Lori: This " Aah haa! " , experience can also maifest kinestheticly in the body. When the restrictions to the energies natural flow are eliminated and with focused intent., the Lighting up of the personal sphere is not unlike the kundalini experience. There is that moment when the chi enters unimpeded and is allowed to make it's way effortlessly and perfectly in your sphere. This is direction worth following, don'cha think? Sung. rusty - " darthon4 " <darthon4 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:40 AM Re: RVRI - too quick? > > > > Hi Chris, > > " Lightbulb turning on " . I guess it's kind of a figure of speech I > tend to loosly use, kind of like when you get a great revelation of > an answer in a instant, like a light going on in your head, something > that seems perfect that you could never have dreamed up all by > yourself if you tried. One of those " Aah haa! " moments. Eureka! I > guess that's what I mean, kind of hard to put into words. > > Sometimes I find that I don't even need to do all three scenes, just > as you say, the answer will come right as I begin to form the > question in my mind and I don't get to finish the scenes. > > Isn't this fun?! > > Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Hi Rusty, Hmmmm, yes, that is a great direction to go. Never really thought of that. Thanks for the suggestion and making me think a bit about this and the possibilities. It makes sense to branch out, find other uses for all of these skills I am learning. So, why not the Kundalini experience? Yes, I believe that with focused intent there are no limits to what can be accomplished. Regards! Lori , " L.Win " <lwinmorgan@s...> wrote: > > > " Lightbulb turning on " . I guess it's kind of a figure of speech I > > tend to loosly use, kind of like when you get a great revelation of > > an answer in a instant, like a light going on in your head, > - > Lori: This " Aah haa! " , experience can also maifest kinestheticly in the > body. When the restrictions to the energies natural flow are eliminated > and with focused intent., the Lighting up of the personal sphere is not > unlike the kundalini experience. > There is that moment when the chi enters unimpeded and is allowed to make > it's way effortlessly and perfectly in your sphere. > This is direction worth following, don'cha think? > > Sung. > rusty > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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