Good NEWS! You've just reached the ESP 3rd Stage. 2 more to go.RVRI - too quick?

[Guest guest]

, " darthon4 "

<darthon4> wrote:

> Sometimes I find that I don't even need to do all three scenes, just

> as you say, the answer will come right as I begin to form the

> question in my mind and I don't get to finish the scenes.

 

Yes Lori,

 

After a bit of practice with those skills, that's exactly what is

supposed to happen.

 

It's the Competancy scale again, and having that happen means you are

at the middle end of level 3, and you've only got two MORE levels to

go.

 

Congratulations.

 

> Isn't this fun?!

 

You betcha!

 

 

> Lori

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc,

 

Would the next levels of competency involve being able to go to

theta, eyes open, just as easily as I go to beta and then be able to

RVRI the plant, animal and inanimate, etc. kingdoms from that open

eye state? Would they also include local viewing..like aura reading,

or local influencing...like telekinesis and such? Just so I know

what I am aiming/intending for....

 

Thanks,

 

Lori

 

 

 

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001>

wrote:

> , " darthon4 "

> <darthon4> wrote:

> > Sometimes I find that I don't even need to do all three scenes,

just

> > as you say, the answer will come right as I begin to form the

> > question in my mind and I don't get to finish the scenes.

>

> Yes Lori,

>

> After a bit of practice with those skills, that's exactly what is

> supposed to happen.

>

> It's the Competancy scale again, and having that happen means you

are

> at the middle end of level 3, and you've only got two MORE levels

to

> go.

>

> Congratulations.

>

> > Isn't this fun?!

>

> You betcha!

>

>

> > Lori

[Guest guest]

, " darthon4 "

<darthon4> wrote:

> Hi Doc,

>

> Would the next levels of competency involve being able to go to

> theta, eyes open, just as easily as I go to beta and then be able

to

> RVRI the plant, animal and inanimate, etc. kingdoms from that

open

> eye state? Would they also include local viewing..like aura

reading,

> or local influencing...like telekinesis and such? Just so I know

> what I am aiming/intending for....

>

> Thanks,

>

> Lori

 

Well, you are on a different track.

 

Which is okay.

 

My track is like cooking eggs.

 

Stage 1, you don't even know eggs exist.

Stage 2, you now know eggs exist because you saw someone eat those

yuckie globs of goo.

Stage 3, you are learning how to cook them..., which is the longest

stage, the stage from trial and error to expertise...

 

Then there are stages 4 & 5.

 

In ESP development, most people stay at stage 1, the stage of

ignorance.

 

There are reasons for this.

 

What are some of the reasons, group?

 

 

ps. and each task has all 5 stages of competency.

[Guest guest]

Levels of competency?

1.Unconsciously incompetent (I don't know what i don't know)

2. Consciously incompetent (i start to realise what i don't know and

practice to acquire the skills)

3. Consciously competent (i have some skill and continue practising)

4. Unconsciously competent (I have the skill and use it automatically -

unless something new comes along which forces me to make the process

conscious again)

but what is level 5?

 

i like car driving as an example. At first I haven't a clue how to drive a

car, then I know what I should be doing to drive it but i don't have the

skills down pat so i stall it, then i have the skills but I need to think

about it the whole time, then I have skills and I can multi task whilst

driving the car......I don't have to think about it......

 

BUT based on my recent experience there are things I do unconsciously and I

am now making them conscious which enhances my skill and competency level.

 

nah, i still can't figure out what the fifth level is....damn! What have I

missed?

-

" docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001

 

Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:38 AM

Re: Good NEWS! You've just

reached the ESP 3rd Stage. 2 more to go.RVRI - too quick?

 

 

> , " darthon4 "

> <darthon4> wrote:

>> Hi Doc,

>>

>> Would the next levels of competency involve being able to go to

>> theta, eyes open, just as easily as I go to beta and then be able

> to

>> RVRI the plant, animal and inanimate, etc. kingdoms from that

> open

>> eye state? Would they also include local viewing..like aura

> reading,

>> or local influencing...like telekinesis and such? Just so I know

>> what I am aiming/intending for....

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> Lori

>

> Well, you are on a different track.

>

> Which is okay.

>

> My track is like cooking eggs.

>

> Stage 1, you don't even know eggs exist.

> Stage 2, you now know eggs exist because you saw someone eat those

> yuckie globs of goo.

> Stage 3, you are learning how to cook them..., which is the longest

> stage, the stage from trial and error to expertise...

>

> Then there are stages 4 & 5.

>

> In ESP development, most people stay at stage 1, the stage of

> ignorance.

>

> There are reasons for this.

>

> What are some of the reasons, group?

>

>

> ps. and each task has all 5 stages of competency.

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " hunter.cris " <hunter.cris@w...>

wrote:

> Levels of competency?

> 1.Unconsciously incompetent (I don't know what i don't know)

> 2. Consciously incompetent (i start to realise what i don't know

and

> practice to acquire the skills)

> 3. Consciously competent (i have some skill and continue

practising)

> 4. Unconsciously competent (I have the skill and use it

automatically -

> unless something new comes along which forces me to make the

process

> conscious again)

> but what is level 5?

 

> i like car driving as an example.

 

Yes, " driving " is a good simple easily understood example, WHICH is

why I used one that is not so easily understood.

 

Now, why would I do that?

 

And, NO, it's NOT to confuse anyone.

 

So, if it's NOT for confusion, than what might it be for?

 

....and I've edited your Stages for you;-)

 

Stage 2... At first I haven't a clue how to drive a

> car,

 

Stage 3...then I know what I should be doing to drive it but i don't

have the skills down pat so i stall it, then i have the skills but I

need to think about it the whole time,

 

Stage 4...then I have skills and I can multi task whilst driving the

car......I don't have to think about it......

 

Stage 5... BUT based on my recent experience there are things I do

unconsciously and I am now making them conscious which enhances my

skill and competency level.

 

Have you yet noticed You left off stage 1, the " I don't know that

cars exist stage " , and that's where the confusion arose.

 

 

 

> nah, i still can't figure out what the fifth level is....damn!

What have I

> missed?

>

> Cris

[Guest guest]

Hello Doc,

 

Just wondering.

> Stage 5... BUT based on my recent experience there are things I do

> unconsciously and I am now making them conscious which enhances my

> skill and competency level.

>

 

So what you are saying talking about is like the evolution of new

technology? Like in your post about the Doing Separating

Heaven/Earth after the Wayne Cook Posture enhances the drill WCP

altogether. Would that be what stage 5 is like?

 

<snip>

 

> > i like car driving as an example.

>

> Yes, " driving " is a good simple easily understood example, WHICH is

> why I used one that is not so easily understood.

>

> Now, why would I do that?

>

> And, NO, it's NOT to confuse anyone.

>

> So, if it's NOT for confusion, than what might it be for?

>

 

Doc your example was eggs. Cris example was cars.

I think you chose egss since maybe Stage 5 is combining the different

technologies(things) to get better improved results...or at least

something better.

 

In your eggs example, now that you can cook eggs (stage 4), maybe you

can now have an ommelette, eggs benedict,

(stage 5)a whole cookbook on eggs or maybe even use it for baking

(stage 5)now - not just cooking....so if you have eggs and add flour

you get your cake and eat it too.

 

What do you think?

 

Joe

[Guest guest]

>

>

> In ESP development, most people stay at stage 1, the stage of

> ignorance.

>

> There are reasons for this.

>

> What are some of the reasons, group?

 

Because 'knowing " implies responsibility -- which means you have to

take 'action'.

 

Which makes you even more responsible!

 

So, say you 'intuit' that your new husband may have naughty designs on

your 12 year old daughter -- if you deny any knowliedge, then you don't

have to accept any bad judgment or take any action. Like dealing with

uncomfortable feelings...

 

Plus - your then subject to all the flack and denial from the person

you pick up information from....

 

Knowledge is freedom but also responsibility.

 

Helen D

 

 

>

> ps. and each task has all 5 stages of competency.

>

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc,

 

OK then based on your cooking egg analogy, stage 4 would be like

figuring out all the things that you can do with eggs and that you

can combine with them to get other concoctions containing eggs. Once

you have explored everything to your satisfaction and demonstrated

that you are an expert, you'd be looking for something much more.

 

Stage 5 would be like coming to the realization that you can do a

whole lot more that just cook with the eggs. For instance if you

fully realize that eggs are really just energy, then potentially you

can do just about anything with them, transform them into anything

that you want. " Turn water into wine " so to speak. Then you have

some great wine to drink, or if you are still stuck on the " cooking

thing " you can whip up some really great recipes using the wine now.

 

Lori

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001>

wrote:

 

> My track is like cooking eggs.

>

> Stage 1, you don't even know eggs exist.

> Stage 2, you now know eggs exist because you saw someone eat those

> yuckie globs of goo.

> Stage 3, you are learning how to cook them..., which is the longest

> stage, the stage from trial and error to expertise...

>

> Then there are stages 4 & 5.

>

> In ESP development, most people stay at stage 1, the stage of

> ignorance.

>

> There are reasons for this.

>

> What are some of the reasons, group?

>

>

> ps. and each task has all 5 stages of competency.