The DARK SIDE is only a MINOR part of the GOOD SIDE of personal Growth!

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, " liberpeace "

> <liberpeace> wrote:

> > I have to say that my background is different from yours. I am

> >african and in Africa there are a lot of psychics who use their

> >power in the destruction of other people lifes and use it for

> >money as well.

 

That sounds pretty judgemental Peace, even though I believe you

didn't mean it that way...

 

....and this thread has gone a long way from learning how to use

theta brain wave consciously with both brain hemispheres

simultaneously, has it not?

 

It has gotten into the evil morass of values, and what is right and

what is wrong, which are all calibrated personally, and NOT by

others, hopefully?

 

This is also normally a topic that is NOT beneficial to anyone since

most people just scream their own opinions, and they are not

normally very educated in their opinions.

 

But, for this one time, let's play a bit, okay?

 

And, no matter what religious beliefs a person has, if they use

those beliefs as a jumping ground for their own evolution, then they

are in the right place.

 

So you are talking about various sources of evil. Now when we come

to the sources of evil there are normally 3 ways to deal with them

on a chunk up thinking scale.

 

Here they are.

 

#1. You seem to use this one...the one where evil is elevated to a

primary premis and thus becomes dualistic, affirming two realities.

 

#2. the second way is to deny the existence of evil and say that it

is the misperception of a lower state of awareness...

 

#3. then there is the THIRD WAY, the chunk up thinking style I

belong to. This is where we affirm the realilty of evil, but assume

it to be CONTAINED within the far greater Reality of the first

premise of the oneness of all force.

 

So, because of my belief that people ALWAYS DO THE BEST THEY CAN at

any given time (that does NOT mean I have to like their behavior, or

accept it), I normally have certain criteria BEFORE I train them in

psychic skills...

 

....just as I've trained Kahuna and Speed Seduction people in psychic

skills.

 

My trainer taught that you always leave them better off than you

found them. Jose Silva stated this...John Grinder stated this. In

fact all my trainers that I hold so highly over the past many many

decades have stated that or something very similar to that.

 

Just as in the Remote Viewing studies done at Stanford Research

Institute, they found that EVERYONE CAN DO REMOTE VIEWING, and learn

how to do it with accuracy very quickly...no matter whether they

were evil or good.

 

Here's the KICKER!

 

They found out the more those trained Remote Viewers were able to

access consciously the Subjective Universe, the more spiritual they

got.

 

So, being fear based, might not be the way to go with your logic,

with your emotions and with your thought processes.

 

What do you think?

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " barbara101ann "

<barbara101ann> wrote:

 

> I read this with humor.

> Many people don't know it but the good Doc is also a Huna

> Minister, and does know something about that side also.

 

Thank you Barbara Ann,

 

Yes, I do know a bit about that side also.

 

I've been studying Huna since 1966, and I do know much about it, and

I do teach some of their skills that used to be considered secret,

just as Max Freedom Long wants his people to do.

 

> So Dr. La Tourrette, what do you say about the evil use of psychic

> skills?

 

Well, going by a very narrow definition, visualization can be

considered a act evil by some people. These same people also 'slam'

positive thinking, and have slammed it for 65 years!

 

Just because someone slams some skill, does NOT mean it is evil.

 

What is GOOD about learning those psychic skills is that you now

HAVE MORE INFORMATION about the results of your actions, and you can

choose more intelligently between several possible futures.

 

You now have MORE CHOICES.

 

And that's a good thing.

 

> I do realize that Peace did not answer your original question, but

> this is a nice substitute.

 

, " liberpeace "

> <liberpeace> wrote:

 

> > Usually the practice is somebody hires them for a short time for

> >some bad " plot " against somebody. These people are psychics.

 

So, just because some people practice the use of ana ana, so what?

 

Just because one apple in a barrel full of apples, does NOT mean

that the rest are tainted...

 

....but you'd better remove the rotten apple;-)

 

Why is that important for us?

 

> > Now for the spirituals-this is more complicated to explain.

> >Usually, they are people who elevated the ego, the greed, will

> >not do harm to other people.

 

I assume you meant something different than you said.

 

Did you mean, are NOT driven by their egos, or their selfishness,

nor their greed, but are practicing the " virtues " that I mentioned

in a previous post?

 

Then I agree that some people can grow to that status, but it does

take MUCH TIME!

 

> >Their purpose in life is to bring harmony among

> >others.

 

This is pretty consistent with higher chunk ups of many different

philosophies.

 

And I do consider it valid for those that HAVE REACHED THAT STATUS

of spiritual growth.

 

....BUT, what about the guy that is struggling with survival?

 

As one of my mentors say, " Doc, it's pretty damn hard to concentrate

on draining the swamp when you are up to your ass in alligators! " ,

which is a valid point.

 

> > Psychics are not all bad but I've seen and heard of pretty bad

ones> > (not in their skills but in how they use it).

 

Yes, and that is a growth process also, is it not?

 

I suggest you use EFT and state, " Even though ESP can be used for

evil I still appreciate and accept myself " .

 

Why?

 

Because that " fear based " belief will stop your evolution, and your

learning of a very valuable skill. Of course, it is totally up to

you.

 

> >I don't think these people actually activated the third eye,may

> >be the evil eye.

 

It's interesting that you equate the 3rd eye, a spiritual Chakra, to

the " evil eye " which is something totally different.

 

And again, when you have those two concepts linked together in your

mind, you will never do the simple drills to activate your mental

screen, a mind screen we all have and use virtually all the time.

 

Let me tell a funny story.

 

Once a lady brought her boy-child (about 11 years old) in for an

interview, because HE wanted to learn Kung-fu.

 

Her first question was, " your not going to teach him any of that

devil worship stuff like visualization and mind control are you? You

know, that stuff where you see pictures in your brain? "

 

I went, " Hunnnnn? "

 

Then I turned and looked at the kid and said, " what color is your

car? " He he looked up to his left side and answered " brown " .

 

I then asked him, " how do you know? "

 

He again looked upwards to his left and said, " because I see a

picture of my dad's car in my head. "

 

The dimwitted mom grabbed him by his hand and scampered for safety

like a cat in a room full of dogs.

 

I never laughed so hard in my life.

 

> > Then I really distinguish between psychics and spirituals, they

are> > not necessary on the same path.

 

And, they are NOT necessarily on different paths either.

 

It's sort of like " all roads lead to Rome, eventually " , right?

 

The following is VERY IMPORTANT. The basis of spirituality in the

individual is MOTIVATION.

 

AND, where-ever we are RIGHT NOW in our own personal evolution is

EXACTLY RIGHT, or we would not be here.

 

So I guess that Peace, me and Barbara Ann are all exactly where we

need to be right now to get the learnings we need to get to evolved

even more.

 

Right?

 

 

ps. GROUP, now is the time for you to dissect the above. Have fun.

 

> > Hope this clears my point of view.

> > Thanks for all

> >

> > Peace