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I looked at a lot of those pictures while I was in Alpha one night. It

was not a pleasant experience. I had to ground myself afterward.

 

Yes, according to my vision, there were entities there. I saw them as

large insects, or rather, they were very spider-like. In my experience

these are demons and hungry ghosts.

 

On Thursday, May 5, 2005, at 09:45 PM, James R. Knippenberg wrote:

 

> Regardless of whether or not the " Intelligence " community is evil, do

> you think entities had anything to do with the prisoner abuses in Abu

> Ghraib?

>

> The prison had seen many people tortured to death under Sadaam. So

> there would likely be entities there who had not left the place of

> their torture and death. Then there would be the entities who were

> attracted to that prison who are cruel and who liked abusing others.

>

> So would everyone who stayed / worked there for long periods of time

> be succeptible to their influences?

 

Yes, I think they would. They were influenced energetically and

emotionally.

 

>

How would you go about clearing a place like that of entities besides

buldozing and burning the place?

>

 

Serious series of banishings coupled with a variety of blessings

including action. I mean changing the purpose of the place, and start

caring for people.

 

> " IF " an entity or entities had an influence on the treatment of

> prisoners, to what extent would that be? Would that be a complete

> temporary (or permanent) possession? Or would it merely be a strong

> external influence acting on those with a smilar attractor field?

 

Difficult to say. I sense a cycle of fear upon some of those prisoners

that would open themselves up for spiritual attack or maybe obsession.

 

> BTW, I read that many Black Magicians during WWI who wanted to avoid

> the 2nd death would find injured / weakened soldiers to possess if

> they themselves lost their own physical bodies.

>

> Would the entities at a place such as that prison be actual

> disembodied souls? Or just strong emotional influences / residue from

> the things that were done there? Or both? Is it possible to clear a

> place such as that?

>

> I know I can clear thought forms from my place by opening the windows,

> letting air circulate, letting the sun in, and using segment intending

> and bannishing techniques along with charging the room(s) with

> positive segment intending and thought forms. Are there some places

> that " can't " be cleared without tearing them down? Does the structure

> itself act as an anchor for the thought forms that are there?

 

It could depend on the form of the structure. Is it a pyramid? No. Are

they crooked rooms, with drab colors? I think this could trap a lot of

malevolent energy then.

 

> Thanks,

> Jim

 

Anthony

 

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Hi! I really like your detailed post. Is the spider-like feature something

common to all demons you have seen? Or just ones with specific attributes?

I've heard some described as snake like or reptilian, but when I have dreams

with snakes in them, it's more like conflicts I haven't fixed yet, and my

typical " phobia " of snakes is not present in my dreams or deep theta meditations

where I have them. I don't recall if I've had dreams with spiders, although I

probably have. The demons I've " seen " took other forms, more like human form,

with very STRANGE energy fields around them.

 

So I'm curious if the spider-like demons are a specific type of demon? Or if

this is just something that comes through to the SCM symbolicaly and might be

different for each person? I really don't know. Also, some of the " demons "

that people have with them have weird " geometrical " (if you can call them that)

shapes to them. Why do some have specific forms and some have more of a " shape "

to them, but nothing you could point to and say " spider-like " or " human-like " or

whatever?

 

Also, I imagine that any attempts to " exorcise " those entities would NOT work as

long as the structure (the prision building) is used in the way that it is being

used? So would more just be attracted to take their place? Or would the ones

that were exorcised come back? Or both?

 

Could other opposite types of thought forms and other entities be brought in to

the place WHILE the others are still there to counteract that? Or would that be

like the person who has " good " entities and " bad " entities who seems to have a

dual personality because of the opposing influences?

 

Thanks for the reply and the descriptions.

 

Jim

 

 

 

 

 

 

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May 6, 2005 12:47 AM

 

Re: entities? Yes.

 

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I looked at a lot of those pictures while I was in Alpha one night. It

was not a pleasant experience. I had to ground myself afterward.

 

Yes, according to my vision, there were entities there. I saw them as

large insects, or rather, they were very spider-like. In my experience

these are demons and hungry ghosts.

 

On Thursday, May 5, 2005, at 09:45 PM, James R. Knippenberg wrote:

 

> Regardless of whether or not the " Intelligence " community is evil, do

> you think entities had anything to do with the prisoner abuses in Abu

> Ghraib?

>

> The prison had seen many people tortured to death under Sadaam. So

> there would likely be entities there who had not left the place of

> their torture and death. Then there would be the entities who were

> attracted to that prison who are cruel and who liked abusing others.

>

> So would everyone who stayed / worked there for long periods of time

> be succeptible to their influences?

 

Yes, I think they would. They were influenced energetically and

emotionally.

 

>

How would you go about clearing a place like that of entities besides

buldozing and burning the place?

>

 

Serious series of banishings coupled with a variety of blessings

including action. I mean changing the purpose of the place, and start

caring for people.

 

> " IF " an entity or entities had an influence on the treatment of

> prisoners, to what extent would that be? Would that be a complete

> temporary (or permanent) possession? Or would it merely be a strong

> external influence acting on those with a smilar attractor field?

 

Difficult to say. I sense a cycle of fear upon some of those prisoners

that would open themselves up for spiritual attack or maybe obsession.

 

> BTW, I read that many Black Magicians during WWI who wanted to avoid

> the 2nd death would find injured / weakened soldiers to possess if

> they themselves lost their own physical bodies.

>

> Would the entities at a place such as that prison be actual

> disembodied souls? Or just strong emotional influences / residue from

> the things that were done there? Or both? Is it possible to clear a

> place such as that?

>

> I know I can clear thought forms from my place by opening the windows,

> letting air circulate, letting the sun in, and using segment intending

> and bannishing techniques along with charging the room(s) with

> positive segment intending and thought forms. Are there some places

> that " can't " be cleared without tearing them down? Does the structure

> itself act as an anchor for the thought forms that are there?

 

It could depend on the form of the structure. Is it a pyramid? No. Are

they crooked rooms, with drab colors? I think this could trap a lot of

malevolent energy then.

 

> Thanks,

> Jim

 

Anthony

 

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On Friday, May 6, 2005, at 04:08 AM, James R. Knippenberg wrote:

 

>

> Hi! I really like your detailed post. Is the spider-like feature

> something common to all demons you have seen? Or just ones with

> specific attributes?

 

No. Demons appear to me sometimes as little humanoids, other times they

can be very cartoonish. The insect/spider entities have traditionally

been used as totems of fear. That's what I think they were about.

 

> I've heard some described as snake like or reptilian, but when I have

> dreams with snakes in them, it's more like conflicts I haven't fixed

> yet, and my typical " phobia " of snakes is not present in my dreams or

> deep theta meditations where I have them. I don't recall if I've had

> dreams with spiders, although I probably have. The demons I've " seen "

> took other forms, more like human form, with very STRANGE energy

> fields around them.

>

> So I'm curious if the spider-like demons are a specific type of demon?

> Or if this is just something that comes through to the SCM

> symbolicaly and might be different for each person?

 

It could be specific to me. I've encountered them enough. And yet, as I

said, these have been totems of fear for millennia.

 

> I really don't know. Also, some of the " demons " that people have with

> them have weird " geometrical " (if you can call them that) shapes to

> them. Why do some have specific forms and some have more of a " shape "

> to them, but nothing you could point to and say " spider-like " or

> " human-like " or whatever?

 

Interesting, you could be seeing behind their mask, so to speak. I

don't know.

 

> Also, I imagine that any attempts to " exorcise " those entities would

> NOT work as long as the structure (the prision building) is used in

> the way that it is being used? So would more just be attracted to

> take their place? Or would the ones that were exorcised come back?

> Or both?

 

Perhaps. If they are setting up the same attractor fields I wouldn't be

surprised if something just as malevolent showed up. I think Doc is

right. One should avoid these kind of places. The only situation where

you might want to do something is if you or someone you care about have

to be in such a prison

>

Could other opposite types of thought forms and other entities be

brought in to the place WHILE the others are still there to counteract

that?

 

I think they could. It might be a lot of work.

 

Or would that be like the person who has " good " entities and " bad "

entities who seems to have a dual personality because of the opposing

influences?

>

> Thanks for the reply and the descriptions.

>

> Jim

 

Anthony

 

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