Sin, Christians, and Abu Ghraib

[Guest guest]

Dear Jim and others on these topics.

First I can share lots of stories about encounters with our brethren in

organized religion. Suffice it they are good people evolving, no longer

burn us at the stake, have built careful prisons in the mind they wish to

keep mostly, and have a right to be paranoid. They are a great source of

entertainment and help me contrast how far I have come by asking to show me

how wrong I am. After I offer documentation they cannot refute they go

away. And once in a while I get one who really is ready to learn. That is

my current bliss. I still delight in telling they have a good half a

religion. That they have the form while I use the substance.

Since Jesus never taught original sin how come the Church does? Lets look

at St Augustine(354-430 AD), who answered heavy challenges to the debate of

free will or original sin from within the Church. Besides murderous physical

force he insisted on Church behalf that men are irretrievably corrupt and

sexual desire is of an indwelling devil, saying in part, " Original sin is

transmitted to infants through sexual union, ...shameful lust. " The

Gnostics held the doctrine of predestination and atonement are mutually

exclusive, therefore Christ was never the divine Eucharist, but only the

Great Instructor.

In private however Augustine wrote to Jerome, " the arguements (against

original sin) morally impregnable " and " When we come to the penal sufferings

of infants, I am embarrassed, believe me, by the great difficulties, and am

wholly at a loss to find an answer by which they are resolved. " Later

protestants used much of the private correspondence of Augustine the Great

to show why they broke from the Church.

I can go on but please remember when dealing with our Christian friends they

mostly are ignorant of how things came to be. That what is put into

children's minds early on is extremely difficult to let go.The thing that

gets me is they always think they are following the teachings of Jesus and

amost none of any of today's denomination's rituals are His, but are all

very Pagan in origin.

So, we have also covered reincarnation except for the point made about

energies in Abu Ghraib prison. As I understand Cosmic Laws nothing is ever

lost. And the tremendous emotion put in the tortures and killing done there

over the years linger. Enter young, untrained in the use of their minds,

(assumption by me) soldiers from the USA. their psyches absorb these

powerful energies without their conscious knowledge and they make them their

own, acting out some.

This same arguement can be made to say there is no reincarnation. Someone

picks up the existing energy of another's life gone by and not knowing where

it came from claims it as their own.

Just my thought.

Loren