The SECRET SCIENCE behind psychic skills development!

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At 04:46 PM 5/17/2005, you wrote:

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, docresults

<docresults@h...> wrote:

> Hello Sue and ALL,

> A couple of thoughts...

> Kinesthetic is king because it travels faster than visual and way,

 

>way faster than auditory.

Actually I disagree with this.

Doc John,

I agree with you and I was referring to what Sue had said,

" Right now we worship athletes, so

kinesthetic is king. "

And in my post I did say that being in the Zone was a combination

of VeK and as you brought it up from the level of structure to the level

of strategy where action is taken and results are accomplished I agree

100% on the level of accomplishment the strategy of VeK to action

(see/do) is king. I suggest that in the experience (not the doing of the

experience) but the actual experience itself - K is king because the

model I use suggest doing without being first is a less than useful or

less than balanced strategy..

And one of the models I use is the BE first, then DO and now you HAVE and

of course each aspect has a sensory element(s) that is king in relation

to the context (be, do, have) we are using.

Also, If I'm not mistake and I could be, in one of your Hakalau trainings

I was at, you taught us to extend our kinesthetics as well as the other

senses and I noticed it went further out than sight. Sight, for me

stopped in the room while my Kinesthetic seemed to move outside the room

and my hallucination was I was sensing people at the front desk.

Yes the Kinesthetic sense had to be brought up to the Visual (internal)

to comprehend what I was sensing and yet in that case the K went

further than the V. This seems similar to the story below about Donna

feeling something (K) and then going to the third eye (Vi) and then

saying " I see, blab, blab, blab... "

Dr. Houston Vetter

 

 

Here's why...

Visual is 15X's faster than auditory...and you can see a lot farther

 

than you can hear.

For safety, the seeing of light and the seeing of movement is a part

 

of the Hakalau training, so it gives you warning so the

kinesthetics, the tactile and the propioceptives can kick into gear

and " do " what is necessary.

So, if there is a " king " then it is the synthesia of

see/do.

So, we are now into contextual systems meaning.

So, for something like Remote Viewing (there is a reason " why "

the

word viewing is used), than that is the dominent sense trained.

....just like in SMC...

THEN the other senses are ALSO trained into that modality of Remote

Viewing, so we can create REFERENCE POINTS of sensory information

gathering at that realm.

Much more if wanted.

My point being, MOST PEOPLE are idiots in their sense

calibrations!

And, they can train those senses, ALL OF THEM!

And, Donna Eden, sees/feels, and she also feels/sees...

It's neat to watch her go, " Oh! I feel something here...I wonder

 

what it is? " (then she pauses...her eyes defocus as she focuses her

 

3rd eye)...and she says, " I see! It's...blab, blab,

blab... "

 

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--- docspeed2001 <docspeed2001 wrote:

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> ,

> docresults

> <docresults@h...> wrote:

> > Hello Sue and ALL,

> > A couple of thoughts...

> > Kinesthetic is king because it travels faster than

> visual and way,

> >way faster than auditory.

>

> Actually I disagree with this.

 

Me 2.

 

I usually demonstrate this with the alpha-bet.

 

How long does it take to write (kino)

 

.... recite (audio)

 

.... visualize it ...

 

.... in fact ... you can VISUALIZE the ENTIRE alpha-bet

all at one time.

 

--Vince

 

.... a " recovering " kino ;>

 

Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

" The Huna Rebel "

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, docresults

<docresults@h...> wrote:

 

Nice post Houston,

I do have some comments about the following...

 

> Also, If I'm not mistake and I

>could be, in one of your Hakalau

>trainings I was at, you taught us

>to extend our kinesthetics as well

>as the other senses and I noticed

>it went further out than sight.

 

Actually that is NOT what we did, but close.

 

What we did was EXTEND the sight, then ATTACH the FEELING to it...

 

....then we extended the FEELING TO Sight (which is a synthesia)...

 

....then we extended the FEELING behind us and the SIGHT went with

it, because of being a synthesia...

 

NOW you accidently have a wide awake version of Remote Viewing,

which was my HIDDEN AGENDA...

 

Notice the difference?

 

Also, notice that this is NOT the only way, just a good way?

 

> for me stopped in the room while my Kinesthetic seemed to move

>outside the room and my hallucination was I was sensing people at

>the front desk.

 

That hallucination was REAL REMOTE VIEWING...

 

....a VISUAL component...and done with the 3rd eye.

 

Isn't it great what we can teach people when we don't tell them in

advance what they are learning, so that their preconceived notions

(filters of values, beliefs, blab, blab,) don't get in their way?

 

 

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Doc John,

 

I agree it really was RVing, I know it and knew it then, sometimes I get

caught up in ole' NLP terminology. The reason I did what I did is I had

already been in a training with another person and we had learned extending

our senses under another name other than Hakalau and we did RVing and RIing

of each other in other rooms and other buildings.

 

We played with using one sensory channel at a time and then adding two

together and then two others and then three.

 

The interesting thing is the training was about sensory acuity and

calibration training and we did the same things that we do in RV/RIing and

Hakalau and we were using NLP labels for the map.

 

I find it fascinating that just as people say what you teach can't really

be done, when it is done under another name many also say that can't be

done either.

 

Dr. Houston Vetter

 

" When we focus on behavior we return to earth, when we focus on

explanations we build a world of our own illusions. " MY Grampa Vetter

 

 

At 08:06 PM 5/17/2005, Doc John wrote:

 

>Actually that is NOT what we did, but close.

>

>What we did was EXTEND the sight, then ATTACH the FEELING to it...

>

>...then we extended the FEELING TO Sight (which is a synthesia)...

>

>...then we extended the FEELING behind us and the SIGHT went with

>it, because of being a synthesia...

>

>NOW you accidently have a wide awake version of Remote Viewing,

>which was my HIDDEN AGENDA...

>

>Notice the difference?

>

>Also, notice that this is NOT the only way, just a good way?

>

> > for me stopped in the room while my Kinesthetic seemed to move

> >outside the room and my hallucination was I was sensing people at

> >the front desk.

>

>That hallucination was REAL REMOTE VIEWING...

>

>...a VISUAL component...and done with the 3rd eye.

>

>Isn't it great what we can teach people when we don't tell them in

>advance what they are learning, so that their preconceived notions

>(filters of values, beliefs, blab, blab,) don't get in their way?

>

>

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essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001>

wrote:

 

> What we did was EXTEND the sight, then ATTACH the FEELING to it...

>

> ...then we extended the FEELING TO Sight (which is a synthesia)...

>

> ...then we extended the FEELING behind us and the SIGHT went with

> it, because of being a synthesia...

>

> NOW you accidently have a wide awake version of Remote Viewing,

> which was my HIDDEN AGENDA...

>

> Notice the difference?

 

Yes, and Wow, what a difference. Are you explaining essentialy what

happened to me too, when I combined the Hakalau with the Theta

Centering drill the other day?

 

>

> Also, notice that this is NOT the only way, just a good way?

>

> Isn't it great what we can teach people when we don't tell them in

> advance what they are learning, so that their preconceived notions

> (filters of values, beliefs, blab, blab,) don't get in their way?

 

That's really cool, and thanks. I also think the spontaniety of

describing it AS I experienced it further removed the filters, values

and beliefs.

 

PLUS I've got it all down on my digital recorder which I set voice

activation mode. I think I see ways that I can use that to help

establish a strong anchor/and points of reference of that experience.

(but still working through those SuperGLue videos to get that all

down)

 

>

>

 

Thank you very much Doc,

 

Lori