Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 , rusty <lwinmorgan@s...> wrote: > > >In point of fact, I agree with Doc in that combat-based Qigong is > the most beneficial for any reason one cares to study it. > - > A nation can be at peace when it has a powerful standing army. > Without it, it is vulnerable to any outside force. > > QiGong is 'working with the life force'. > Tai Chi is doing it the optimum way [supreme ultimate}. > At that level there are identical moves for combat or > granola/touchy-feely and they are inseperable. > 'Holding the hawk' and 'ward off' are one and the same pose/move. > If you are totally sung, balanced into your vertical axis you'll deal > optimumly with outside forces be they warriors or earthquakes. > The 37 poses in the Yang short form cover any and all contingencies > whether in combat or hurricanes. Working both sides, there are 74 > positions and movements and one of those will be optimum whatever the > incoming force. > Wholeism includes combat and meditation and inflow and outflow. > You can't only breathe in nor can you only breathe out. > Balance does not favour either Yin not Yang. > > You cannot be in a combat winning mode unless you are sung and when you > are sung you are invincible. > > " Conscious relaxation unconciously produces force. > There is literal truth in this statement " > > ~taiji adage. Rusty, I loved your poetry;-) Now my question is, " how can anyone train for any type of combat WITHOUT the energy of combat, the sweat of combat, and the contact of combat? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 > Now my question is, " how can anyone train for any type of combat > WITHOUT the energy of combat, the sweat of combat, and the contact > of combat? " > Or as members of Naval Special Operations say, " Train Hard, Fight Easy " . ;') Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Hello Doc, Doc Houston, Rusty, Ron, Gary, Cris and Pierre -- Thanks SOOOO much for all your good advice re sissy-fu vs combat-fu qi gong. I have read all of it and taken it to heart. I'm going to take classes in a number of styles and see what suits me best. Start tomorrow. I haven't really needed to defend myself on the street in about 20 years (and I live in an area of LA where there are lots of gangs - the hills above east LA). I can usually sense trouble (non-discriminate trouble) and avoid it. Also -- my dogs are usually with me - and our 175 lb St Bernard, Neil, melts gangbangers into little boys with sweet smiles.... (combat-fu by proxi) Neil- the giant gangbanger-melter: http://www.invitesite.com/to_all_a_goodnight_2002.html However: I do have to deal with a BRIDEZILLA, at least a one a week. All our customers are Brides (or Grooms). We do ALL our business from our website - over the phone. I really like almost all of our customers -- and we have no troubles just good communication. However, if something goes wrong... (and it's usually a specific type of person...) then Gale wind forces from the collective unconscious, the mating drive, initiation-into-adulthood drive, the status drive - all unleash from the other end of the phone. Quite amazing, actually. Just taking orders, I hear and feel sooo much stress and anxiety in about half our customers. That's 20 stressed out women a day..... Diana, who works with us, talks to about 20 more.... And all our customers are 'Tonal' and/or Digital. (having just viewed Donna + David's Energies of Love) If something goes wrong and we are wrong, I apologize and make it right. But if the customer is wrong, my back goes up and I want to fight. Which is not a good way of handling the situation. (But I'm not going to be bullied by the forces of BRIDEZILLA.) So, I thought a good way to blow off the stress would be to have a skill set that lets all those emotions just blow through me, without getting stuck in me... Jack Bauer - the main guy in the TV show '24' - is the 'type' I want to model. He processes perfectly..... The stresses blow through him..... Since coming back from Portland, I'm doing drills about 4 times a day. I thought Qi Gong would really help second to second. So - in my search for a good, local teacher (Los Angeles) -- I've come across an amazing array of marketing styles. (none developed by a professional marketer) I putting together an analysis of each of them and will post in a separate email. I hope it is of value to anyone teaching martial arts and qi qong. Website marketing is really really important! Your potential customers might want to research your offerings online... Thanks again, all ye combat-fu Helen On Jun 5, 2005, at 10:38 AM, rusty wrote: > >> In point of fact, I agree with Doc in that combat-based Qigong is > the most beneficial for any reason one cares to study it. > - > A nation can be at peace when it has a powerful standing army. > Without it, it is vulnerable to any outside force. > > QiGong is 'working with the life force'. > Tai Chi is doing it the optimum way [supreme ultimate}. > At that level there are identical moves for combat or > granola/touchy-feely and they are inseperable. > 'Holding the hawk' and 'ward off' are one and the same pose/move. > If you are totally sung, balanced into your vertical axis you'll deal > optimumly with outside forces be they warriors or earthquakes. > The 37 poses in the Yang short form cover any and all contingencies > whether in combat or hurricanes. Working both sides, there are 74 > positions and movements and one of those will be optimum whatever the > incoming force. > Wholeism includes combat and meditation and inflow and outflow. > You can't only breathe in nor can you only breathe out. > Balance does not favour either Yin not Yang. > > You cannot be in a combat winning mode unless you are sung and when you > are sung you are invincible. > > " Conscious relaxation unconciously produces force. > There is literal truth in this statement " > > ~taiji adage. > > Sung:) > rusty > ~ > > > > marangneng wrote: > >> In point of fact, I agree with Doc in that combat-based Qigong is >> the most beneficial for any reason one cares to study it. I had >> several martial arts schools where I taught Qigong and Taiji to the >> earthy, touchy-feely granola munchers, and then I had my bone- >> crushing face rippers. I taught pretty much the same stuff to both >> groups, I just didn't tell the granola-munchers what the >> applications/intent of the principles were. ;') >> >> I guess the reason that I'm here is that I had a life-changing event >> about five years ago that shook me to my foundation and made me >> qu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 In a message dated 6/20/05 1:39:19 AM, erommel writes: Well, whatever you choose to do, IF the choice is to do combat, then the only way to train for combat is through combat training. I absolutely agree. I just wanted to acknowledge individual differences/needs and changes in same over a life span. Sue www.coachdrgridley.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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