RE: When do you let them fly on their own

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone.. I have been on the list for a while and decided to post because I have been asking myself the very same question about boundaries and ethics and all that. I am wondering what other peoples thoughts are especially when the person is not in their normal state and you can sense they are screaming for help. Heres another question. What is the person's higher self has come to you asking for help and you sense that their higher self is looking to you for help but you cannot get the person in the physical body to admit it because of the state of depression...etc.. they are in ...WHat do you do then and is it ok to help as long as you have their higher selves permission>??? Blessings to all who read this.... Namaste*Walter Hurlbut <whurlbut wrote:

 

 

 

Hm, I wonder what the person you are helpings’ values are?

 

My fiancée doesn’t want anyone to even RV her HI or use her in any way for energy medicine unless she is there in the flesh consciously giving you permission at the immediate time in question. Even though I feel she loses out on a lot of good help and love from others by such an attitude, it is her choice and out of love and honor I choose to obey those wishes. With my 4 powers I could choose a different course and what would happen then? Responsibility to….

 

Oh, well I guess you had to be at the last seminar to get the boundaries explained in an easy to understand way huh?

 

Play or not as you choose with your 4 powers,

Walter Hurlbut

 

On Behalf Of David GluthMonday, July 11, 2005 6:51 AM Subject: When do you let them fly on their own

 

 

 

 

 

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There has been the discussion of helping people only when they ask.

Even giving them the info and letting them do what they will with it.

We are not to impose ourselves on others basically, very general statement here.

 

What about the scenario where a person is suffering from "clinical depression" as it is termed.

Now I am not talking about being "blue", down in the dumps or even how people feel after they have lost a loved one. These are temporary situations which do correct themselves and the people still are making choices in their life. So let them do what they want.

I am talking about the depression where the person cannot even function in day to day life, picking out a shirt to wear is major, having a shower is a major decision, doing day to day things is hard and most times will not be done. The person is at the point where they really cannot make the decision for themselves because of the depression.

Now this person is not going to do energy drills or eft, hell they cannot even get out of bed easily.

In a case like this do you do surrogate EFT, do you do energy drills even if they do not want it or care?

Now it has been mentioned in the past if a person cannot take the time to do some drills, they are on their own.

So when do WE decide that a person needs are help without them asking?

What is the dividing line between their CHOICE and our Doing the Right thing in our mind.

Just curious

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

--- Betty Boop <girlygirl4eva111 wrote:

> WHat do you do then and is it ok to help as long as

> you have their higher selves permission>???

 

Yep.

 

--Vince

http://huna-ohana.com

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I would calibrate carefully to make sure their higher self

really did ask. Surrogate energy testing with double blind method comes to

mind. And I would test to see what the benefits to you are. If it all comes out

acceptably good then I would do it. If it doesn’t I wouldn’t. Permission from

their higher self is important. Benefits versus consequences to you are also

important. I would check both then decide.

 

Expecting good benefits for you;

 

Walter Hurlbut

 

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On Behalf Of Betty Boop

Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:29

AM

To:

 

RE:

When do you let them fly on their own

 

Hi

Everyone.. I have been on the list for a while and decided to post because I

have been asking myself the very same question about boundaries and ethics and

all that. I am wondering what other peoples thoughts are especially when

the person is not in their normal state and you can sense they are screaming

for help. Heres another question. What is the person's higher self has

come to you asking for help and you sense that their higher self is looking to

you for help but you cannot get the person in the physical body to admit it

because of the state of depression...etc.. they are in ...WHat do you do then

and is it ok to help as long as you have their higher selves

permission>??? Blessings to all who read this.... Namaste*

 

Walter Hurlbut <whurlbut

wrote:

 

Hm,

I wonder what the person you are helpings’ values are?

 

My fiancée doesn’t want

anyone to even RV her HI or use her in any way for energy medicine unless she

is there in the flesh consciously giving you permission at the immediate time

in question. Even though I feel she loses out on a lot of good help and love

from others by such an attitude, it is her choice and out of love and honor I

choose to obey those wishes. With my 4 powers I could choose a different course

and what would happen then? Responsibility to….

 

Oh, well I guess you had to

be at the last seminar to get the boundaries explained in an easy to understand

way huh?

 

Play or not as you choose

with your 4 powers,

Walter Hurlbut

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of David Gluth

Monday, July 11, 2005 6:51

AM

To:

 

Subject:

When do you let them fly on their own

 

 

 

 

 

Opinions from the

group

There has been the

discussion of helping people only when they ask.

Even giving them the

info and letting them do what they will with it.

We are not to impose

ourselves on others basically, very general statement here.

 

What about the

scenario where a person is suffering from " clinical depression " as

it is termed.

Now I am not talking

about being " blue " , down in the dumps or even how people feel

after they have lost a loved one. These are temporary situations which

do correct themselves and the people still are making choices in their

life. So let them do what they want.

I am talking about the

depression where the person cannot even function in day to day life,

picking out a shirt to wear is major, having a shower is a major

decision, doing day to day things is hard and most times will not be

done. The person is at the point where they really cannot make the

decision for themselves because of the depression.

Now this person is not

going to do energy drills or eft, hell they cannot even get out of bed

easily.

In a case like this do

you do surrogate EFT, do you do energy drills even if they do not

want it or care?

Now it has been

mentioned in the past if a person cannot take the time to do some

drills, they are on their own.

So when do WE decide

that a person needs are help without them asking?

What is the dividing

line between their CHOICE and our Doing the Right thing in our mind.

Just curious

 

Dave