Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 At 12:31 PM 11/12/2005, Jim wrote: Well, what if, for whatever reason, you can't do the Gammut part of the EFT? Jim, I'm on a lunch break at a seminar so I'll respond to this part now and some thoughts on the other parts of your post later. Most practitioner's (trained by Gary Craig) no longer use the fingers or the Gamut aspects of EFT, even though they know them. On all his video's after the basic set he uses the short version. Even in his seminars on " Healing Serious Disease and Health problems the process stops underneath the arm. He has added in the top of the head as the first tapping point after doing the karate chop set-up phrase. I don't know if you remember or not but the first year when you and I met at the Huna Convention and Dr. John was teaching Energy Medicine in the main session and before he was using EFT, after one of the sessions you watched me do EFT including some time-line EFT with someone and even back then we weren't using the fingers or the Gamuts. To Your Best, Doc Houston P.S. Who was the first person to say, " See that chicken there? I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes outta it's butt. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Hi. Hope you had fun at the seminar. I'm not sure what you mean when you say " Before he (Dr. La Tourrette) was using EFT... " Doc told me about EFT a long time ago on Major Mark's list, back at a time in life when I was real depressed. I did not even have the energy to go download the EFT manaul to read it and do the drills. But I knew the three thumps, partly from seeing him before, and from his other posts. So I knew the three thumps. And I did those, and amazingly, I felt a whole lot better than before. (This can be verified from back posts where I commented on the Three Thumps on Mark's list.) Then I downloaded the EFT manual and went through the procedure because I was afraid Doc wouldn't help me when I got to his seminar (at the Huna Convention) if I didn't do the drills. This is because of all the posts where he wrote about people he refused to help because they wouldn't do the damn drills. As you know, I like Doc, and I wanted to make sure I could go to his seminar again and talk with him. And of course, I was operating on lots and lots of " away froms " too. I did the drills, and got almost no benefit from the EFT drills. Then during his class, he taught us the EFT, and you were in my group during at least one of the rounds of drills. So you took me through the EFT drill he had just taught the class. I was amazed at how well it actually worked, and as I've told you and other people also, you did a damn good job with it, too, especially with drawing out my own words and emotions to use with the drill. I learned the drill from Doc, and you were in my group when we did the drills in groups of 3. You also did a presentation that year on EFT, which is on one of the video sets I've got. I don't remember much of the EFT drills. I do know that Dr. La Tourrette did an INCREDIBLE EFT drill with me several months ago where he FIXED my back -- and I've had MULTIPLE instances where I've been able to prove what he did still works and will keep working. He did really neat things with DISTANT past timelines and future timelines and also went WAY BEYOND the EFT and did installation of resources. He also did the eye technique with me, and later in that seminar also told me that they don't use the Gammut now. But he did include it in what he took me through, and he added so many things in there, along with installation of positive resources, that now I have to go back and review the video again. Whatever he did was INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THERE, because of the " OOHS! " and " OH WOWS!!! " coming from the people watching. I know it sure was obvious to me. And so anyways, when you are working on someone by connecting to their energy field (yes, I know we are all connected anyways, but that's what it feels like -- hooking in or connecting with their energy field) for the purpose of tapping FOR them, I guess if it's not necessary to do the Gammut, it's not necessary to do it while tapping for someone else either? I know that when I tap for them, I can tell a difference in the way their energy field looks and feels. And when I do hakalau FOR them, I can also calibrate a difference, however that difference does not feel to me to be " Wired in " . For instance, I can go into hakalau any time I want the benefit, but when I do it for someone else, I can calibrate a difference in their energy field, BUT IT DOES NOT FEEL AS IF IT WILL LAST LONG-TERM, because they don't know the physical skill yet. Now I also know that Dr. La Tourrette did some amazing things with one of his students, who happens to be one of the smartest men I've ever met. And what Doc did with him was take the dark spots in the timeline and shoot white light through them to change them to bright, white light, all through the timeline. I know I can CONDITION someone using psychic techniques. Jose Silva picked 10 " incurable " cases while he was doing his initial research, and he worked on them for 3 years until every one of them was cured. I wonder why some of his people he trained WON'T cure themselves? I bet if Jose were alive, he would work their case and MAKE them get cured! LOL What kinds of QUICK interventions can you do, psychically, though, so the person still LEARNS from their past, and changes their course? I don't really feel like working ANYONE'S case every day, day after day, to nudge them and condition them over time. And, yeah, I know how to. And even with QUICK techniques, such as taking them through a remote swish pattern during sleep time, they still have accidental anchors that are conditioned in that they face every day. And unless you know the anchors so you can collapse them, it takes conditioning and time to rewire what they've already got on autopilot. I suppose a good place to start is their radiant energies? So they can heal themselves " accidentally " ? Anyways, I don't know. It sure is fun to experiment, though, and find stuff out. I would reply to your " P.S. " , but I'm not sure who you are calling a chicken or who you are calling a chicken shit. Anyways, hope you had fun at the seminar. I'm having lots of fun with my seminar I'm teaching. And the feedback is awesome, too! I swear, there's this one guy in my seminar who HAS to be a friggin' genius, just by the awesome questions he asks. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a trainer under a pen name. Anyways, I'm learning lots of neat stuff from the seminar, and I'm the one " teaching " it. LOL Who woulda thought 5 years ago that I'd be teaching a completely filled seminar! GOD!, life is fun, JIM Psychic Close Encounters Telepathic Dream Invaders docresults <docresults Nov 12, 2005 2:51 PM Re: Fixing stuff while people sleep. At 12:31 PM 11/12/2005, Jim wrote: >Well, what if, for whatever reason, you can't do the Gammut part of the EFT? Jim, I'm on a lunch break at a seminar so I'll respond to this part now and some thoughts on the other parts of your post later. Most practitioner's (trained by Gary Craig) no longer use the fingers or the Gamut aspects of EFT, even though they know them. On all his video's after the basic set he uses the short version. Even in his seminars on " Healing Serious Disease and Health problems the process stops underneath the arm. He has added in the top of the head as the first tapping point after doing the karate chop set-up phrase. I don't know if you remember or not but the first year when you and I met at the Huna Convention and Dr. John was teaching Energy Medicine in the main session and before he was using EFT, after one of the sessions you watched me do EFT including some time-line EFT with someone and even back then we weren't using the fingers or the Gamuts. To Your Best, Doc Houston P.S. Who was the first person to say, " See that chicken there? I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes outta it's butt. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 At 03:40 AM 11/14/2005, Jim wrote: Then during his class, he taught us the EFT, and you were in my group during at least one of the rounds of drills. So you took me through the EFT drill he had just taught the class. I was amazed at how well it actually worked, and as I've told you and other people also, you did a damn good job with it, too, especially with drawing out my own words and emotions to use with the drill. Jim, You are correct about this story but the story I was referring to was the year before this one. Dr. La Tourrette was teaching Energy Medicine and was not teaching EFT this particular year. (He had heard of it but wasn't up to speed yet. At this seminar he and I even split the cost on some of Gary's videos, I ordered.) I was in the hall helping someone using EFT and Time-line and you came and stood there and watched. I had already been doing EFT for 2 years by then. You were not involved in the drill other than you stood and watched. That may be why you don't remember you didn't really know me and I was just another attendee plus you only watched and did not participate or get any of the benefit other than telling the guy he looked better. The next year (the one you speak of) Dr. La Tourrette presented before I did. We had not talked about what we were going to present and he did my presentation (cleared phobias in 7 or 8 people), so I got the opportunity to came up with a whole new presentation over night, boy that was fun. Sometimes things just happen like this... Jim, Its no fun when you have to explain jokes but the P.S. wasn't about shit coming out of a chicken it was that other thing that goes with bacon and breakfast. I am glad you are enjoying teaching your seminar. They are fun to do and learn from. To Your Best, Dr. Houston Vetter Healing and Beyond Healing to Spirituality http://www.achieve-your-potential.com/deep-peat.html P.S. Why does Goofy stand erect while Pluto remains on all fours? They're both dogs! " My Grampa Vetter " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 , " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote: > > > We know we can use suggestion and mental programming with mental movies, three scenes, etc to work with people during dream time. > > So anyway, you know how you can connect your energy field with someone and do EFT and " fix " their stuff? I posted awhile back (I don't think most people believed me) how I did that in a Taco Bell with a guy who was bent over sideways and was walking crooked, aparently in a great deal of discomfort, and so I connected my energy field with his and did EFT and was AMAZED at how he suddenly stood up straight and walked more normally. > > Then I did some anchoring with his wife who seemed to be somewhat embarrassed by his predicament. > > Well, what if, for whatever reason, you can't do the Gammut part of the EFT? > > I already don't want to do too much of the EFT on someone without them getting the positive learnings anyways, but I think there are many, many useful ways to help someone with EFT where the positive learning is easy for them to come up with on their own. So I guess my segment intending is " Is it beneficial for them if I do this technique? " or something like that. Unless they are in my way, in which case I will do whatever technique I think works best for what *I* want. LOL > > ALSO, WHO is supposed to get the positive learnings??? Does the Conscious Mind NEED to know the positive learnings? Or is it just necessary for the Subconscious mind to get the learnings? > > Anyways, What if you can't do the Gammut part of it? We already know that HAKALAU will blow things out of the energy field. What would Gammut do that hakalau would not be able to do, if anything at all? > > ALSO, since hakalau is " Far seeing, " wouldn't a remote ( " as if you are them " ) hakalau technique ALSO install the resources for them to get positive learnings? Or not? Why or why not? > > Also, if you are in their energy field, and you do the hakalau WITH SEGMENT INTENDING TO HELP THEM, but you are not doing the drill " as if you are them " , what causes THEIR energy field to change? Is it " just " because you now perceive them differently? Or does hakalau PLUS intent to help them have some other effec(s)? Because when you do hakalau properly, it causes your own energy field to expand. Correct? So if we were to compare hakalau to what Hudson wrote in Divine Pedigree of Man, would hakalau be like telepathy (omniscience?) or would it be like omnipresence? Or is it both, combined? > > And does the effect of that " only " last as long as they are around you? Or does it set up an alternate type of " vibration " so they have additional choices, but they probably take the one they are used to until they experience the other choices enough times to develop a " habit field " ? > > I'm just wondering stuff to myself and thought I'd post it out here in case anyone else notices anything similar and knows " how " it works? > > Thanks, > Jim > I always thought doing the gamut was more for RELAXING THE TW than anything else (what with all the tapping you do on ONE OF THE MAIN SEDATING POINTS ). It seems to help quite alot when I do EFT as my tw has a tendency to flare up at the slightest thought of change. It seems to help me WITH THAT. I also have always suspected it to be kind of a BREAK STATE technique to sort wipe the slate clean before continuing. And we all know how USEFUL those can be in our work. Anyways, I know that Gary mentions one of its purposes is for connecting several parts of the brain and helping them communicate, though Im NOT sure of the exact wording that he uses to describe this. Im gonna give a couple of rounds of EFT a go(like I couldnt use them lol) tonight without the Gamut and NOTICE if it affects results. Interesting thoughts Jim. Thanks. The useful info on thispost alone should send a couple of minds (the kinds that knowtice things) a-searching for answers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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