Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Hi, Jason(s)! The dream stuff has been either done while in meditation state (also an alpha theta, I guess) which I usually do seated, or using the 3-2-1 before bedtime. I'm not sure I'd be very good at communicating if I was sleeping, too. I guess that's where the three-screen movies come in. What's interesting is that I feel like I've developed a bit of an empathetic connection with the people I'm practicing on. I don't know if the feelings that I'm getting are in any way for real, or just my imagination, since I'm not in contact with the folks in question. It does make me think that i should be doing this with some of the people I'm really close to, though. You know, it seems a little like the remote healing exercises. I haven't worked with those very much, yet. Dream invasion? Sounds invasive. How are you proceeding. (Jason R Wrote:) > Interesting post. I am studying dream invasion/influence techniques myself. You're attempting to communicate with them in dreamtime while you are awake, is that correct? > Are you using the Silva 3-2-1 method? Thanks for posting. > > Jason --------- Well, my feeling on all of this is that while I may be in control of the elements of my life, I'm not in control of the things that other people put out, unless I'm making a deliberate effort to. So if I'm reaching out to another person, whether they're in the same room or through my imagination, if I'm making actual contact with that person, There's a limit to the amount of control I have over them & the stuff in between. If I go to the store to buy a lightbulb, I can't know that they'll have it, even though I'm 100% sure when I leave my house. Similarly, I cant have much control over the rain outside. I know there are some folks who feel that it's all in my head, but I'm not sure that feels right to me. I mean, a lot of people feel that everything that happens to a person, good or bad, is the result of their intention, but I think that's kind of rationalizing against a fear of an uncertain world. In order for things like manifestation to occur, I think you need am awful lot of random happenings to provide enough material. Of course, I'm quite open to revising my trance! Got any suggestions? Cheers, Jeff (Jason B Wrote:) >> The next night I put aside some time to put her up on my >> mental screen and do a little ultra-virtual dialoging. I seemed to >> get her there, but she was pretty unresponsive. The intersting thing >> was that there seemed to be a 'thing.' It was glob that looked like >> chewed gum, about the size & shape of a heirloom tomato, colored >> with swirls of green & black, & floating over the left side of her >> head (!).....Some odd dream, huh? >You still think this " stuff " is outside of you. You bought into a >reactionary Frame. >Your reality reflects your hypnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 , " Jason Rhone " <rhone@g...> wrote: > > > > It > >does make me think that i should be doing this with some of the people > >I'm really close to, though. You know, it seems a little like the > >remote healing exercises. I haven't worked with those very much, yet. > > Working on people close to you might help. I wasn't doing to good with > remote healing. But my son was having serious stomach pains. After I > got off the phone with him, I went to level and connected immediately! > I got rid of what was wrong and put him to sleep. It was amazing! Yes Jason it absolutely does make sense. It just seemed that trying to connect with folks far away geographically and temporaly would make the experiment more objective. (Gak--didn't that sound dense! you know what I mean, though). I've had mixed results with things like that in the past, getting calls from people I'd been intensely thinking about, so that seemed like a good place to further experiment. I'm also wondering how hard & long to concentrate with the various RI/RV exercises. Should one got for 1/2 an hour or 5 minutes? Or more? I'm thinking that it must take some time before a person becomes aware that a message is coming their way. Does it just pass them by until they catch it, or does it lodge in their mind until they notice it? Does intensity & energy matter, and is the amount of time equal to the amount of energy? Is it possible to pump too much into an exercise & overshoot the target? There are retorical questions, of course. I doubt if anyone has universal answers. Here's something odd I can add to this thread--I was waiting to meet a friend in a bookstore the other night, & a tiny book caught my eye--Psychic Self Defense by Samantha Stevens. I gave it a quick skim & found an interesting mention--she described someone sending images into her dreams and said that the images were tinted brown & burned looking. This isn't relating to anything current, but quite a while back, I'd had some very odd dreams with images that seemed very real, but misplaced (I remember feeling they were someone else's in my dream), and they were, oddly, tinted brown & sepia. At the time I rhought that reflected the other person's self-image. Anybody else have any experience with this? --J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 > I've had mixed results with things like that in the past, getting > calls from people I'd been intensely thinking about, so that seemed > like a good place to further experiment. " intensely thinking about " is not part of any Remote Influence drill I know of that works... When you go to the Clairvoyant level using one of the proven, workable methods you place the person on your mental screen and bless them, then end the blessing by telling them to give you a call... ....Or you can make a picture of yourself picking up the phone and hearing their voice, charging it and sending it to the Aumakua... ....all Aumakua's are connected non-locally so there is no effort involved. ....Or you step into their energy field and have the thought (as them) that they should call YOU... > I'm also wondering how hard & long to concentrate with the various > RI/RV exercises. Should one got for 1/2 an hour or 5 minutes? Or more? If you are doing the conditionings then the time is already decided. Actively follow the conditioning instructions... Once you've conditioned yourself, do the drill until it is done. The value is in going to Level with an Intention, doing what it is you what to do and then coming out and executing the plans or using the information you gained. > I'm thinking that it must take some time before a person becomes aware > that a message is coming their way. About 2-3 seconds...when properly trained and doing the drill correctly. If not properly trained (or not doing the drill right), all bets as to the validity and accuracy are off... > a tiny book caught my > eye--Psychic Self Defense by Samantha Stevens. Do you know how to energy test a book? Doc La Tourrette teaches it on several of his video tape sets. -- Jason B. Student of Doc La Tourrette, Student of Silva, Student of Neville, Huna and Joy Circuits Trained, Ultramind ESP Instructor, NLP, NHR, Persuasion Engineer, etc, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hi J, OK, I am assuming you have the RV/RI CDs, you really need to make sure that you have down the Centering drill. This is really the pure gold drill, that make all the others really easy. Have you learnt Hakalau yet? Practice it at beta, then try it at level. Notice the BBBBiiigggg difference on the info you get. Knowing how to calibrate is also very, very important. Can you tell the difference between being at beta or alpha or theta? If you gone down to level and something has put you back to beta, and you haven't noticed, then your result will be..... It seems like your TW is activated for whatever reason, this pings you back to beta. If this happens more than once then I usually use EFT to get rid of it. Do you have David Feinstein's CD - very good resource, I think Jason mentioned recently getting your PBS up to build beliefs etc. What are your black boxes that are stopping you getting the information you asked for? Doing the energy drills (inc. radient ones) before hand, then sedating TW, and then holding NVs until they are even is a great habit to get into. Compare doing it this way, with just going to level. Have you tried Revivifying past successes? All of this is probably in the archives, if not then get Doc's products, or go to a seminar (or all of the above :>). Enjoy yourself. Michael. , " stuydaze " <stuydaze> wrote: > > , " Jason Rhone " > <rhone@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > It > > >does make me think that i should be doing this with some of the people > > >I'm really close to, though. You know, it seems a little like the > > >remote healing exercises. I haven't worked with those very much, yet. > > > > Working on people close to you might help. I wasn't doing to good with > > remote healing. But my son was having serious stomach pains. After I > > got off the phone with him, I went to level and connected immediately! > > I got rid of what was wrong and put him to sleep. It was amazing! > > Yes Jason it absolutely does make sense. It just seemed that trying to > connect with folks far away geographically and temporaly would make > the experiment more objective. (Gak--didn't that sound dense! you > know what I mean, though). > > I've had mixed results with things like that in the past, getting > calls from people I'd been intensely thinking about, so that seemed > like a good place to further experiment. > > I'm also wondering how hard & long to concentrate with the various > RI/RV exercises. Should one got for 1/2 an hour or 5 minutes? Or more? > I'm thinking that it must take some time before a person becomes aware > that a message is coming their way. Does it just pass them by until > they catch it, or does it lodge in their mind until they notice it? > Does intensity & energy matter, and is the amount of time equal to the > amount of energy? Is it possible to pump too much into an exercise & > overshoot the target? There are retorical questions, of course. I > doubt if anyone has universal answers. > > Here's something odd I can add to this thread--I was waiting to meet a > friend in a bookstore the other night, & a tiny book caught my > eye--Psychic Self Defense by Samantha Stevens. I gave it a quick skim > & found an interesting mention--she described someone sending images > into her dreams and said that the images were tinted brown & burned > looking. This isn't relating to anything current, but quite a while > back, I'd had some very odd dreams with images that seemed very real, > but misplaced (I remember feeling they were someone else's in my > dream), and they were, oddly, tinted brown & sepia. At the time I > rhought that reflected the other person's self-image. Anybody else > have any experience with this? > > --J. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Wow--quite some input! I'm going to digest it all, experiment a bit & get back with more details when I've tried it all out a bit more. I guess I had to clarify some of my terminology and assumptions. Where I was talking about intensity, I was reffering to holding the image or thought in mind with intent. The centering drills are coming along quite nicely, and I can hold equal " Intensity " in beta or alpha and almost as well in theta. When doing three scenes, for example, it feels to me that I ought to hold the scene until it forms a distinct, solid 'imprint', otherwise it just feels like a daydream. It feels like there's a certain point at which each scene " clicks " . (While we're at it, there's a brief mention of using the 3-scene to program someone using the Daydream method, but that seems to be quite different). That's why I was asking how long people generally commit. As for the psychic self defense book, and it's description of having one's dream invaded, I was just surprised to read a description of something that I'd experienced & remembered, but never thought much about, except that the brown/beige tinge was peculiar for a dream. I was wondering in anyone else ever expereinced similar. It might make an interesting experiment. Who knows, maybe a new drill? I'm also currently reading Hudson's book, and it really ties together with the Silva material quite nicely. Cheers, Jeff (BTW, not Jason!) , " dstbod " <dstbod> wrote: > > Hi J, > > OK, I am assuming you have the RV/RI CDs, you really need to make > sure that you have down the Centering drill. This is really the pure > gold drill, that make all the others really easy. > > Have you learnt Hakalau yet? Practice it at beta, then try it at > level. Notice the BBBBiiigggg difference on the info you get. > > Knowing how to calibrate is also very, very important. Can you tell > the difference between being at beta or alpha or theta? If you gone > down to level and something has put you back to beta, and you haven't > noticed, then your result will be..... > > It seems like your TW is activated for whatever reason, this pings > you back to beta. If this happens more than once then I usually use > EFT to get rid of it. > > Do you have David Feinstein's CD - very good resource, I think Jason > mentioned recently getting your PBS up to build beliefs etc. What > are your black boxes that are stopping you getting the information > you asked for? > > Doing the energy drills (inc. radient ones) before hand, then > sedating TW, and then holding NVs until they are even is a great > habit to get into. Compare doing it this way, with just going to > level. > > Have you tried Revivifying past successes? > > All of this is probably in the archives, if not then get Doc's > products, or go to a seminar (or all of the above :>). > > Enjoy yourself. > > Michael. > > > , " stuydaze " > <stuydaze> wrote: > > > > , " Jason > Rhone " > > <rhone@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It > > > >does make me think that i should be doing this with some of the > people > > > >I'm really close to, though. You know, it seems a little like the > > > >remote healing exercises. I haven't worked with those very much, > yet. > > > > > > Working on people close to you might help. I wasn't doing to > good with > > > remote healing. But my son was having serious stomach pains. > After I > > > got off the phone with him, I went to level and connected > immediately! > > > I got rid of what was wrong and put him to sleep. It was amazing! > > > > Yes Jason it absolutely does make sense. It just seemed that trying > to > > connect with folks far away geographically and temporaly would make > > the experiment more objective. (Gak--didn't that sound dense! you > > know what I mean, though). > > > > I've had mixed results with things like that in the past, getting > > calls from people I'd been intensely thinking about, so that seemed > > like a good place to further experiment. > > > > I'm also wondering how hard & long to concentrate with the various > > RI/RV exercises. Should one got for 1/2 an hour or 5 minutes? Or > more? > > I'm thinking that it must take some time before a person becomes > aware > > that a message is coming their way. Does it just pass them by until > > they catch it, or does it lodge in their mind until they notice it? > > Does intensity & energy matter, and is the amount of time equal to > the > > amount of energy? Is it possible to pump too much into an exercise & > > overshoot the target? There are retorical questions, of course. I > > doubt if anyone has universal answers. > > > > Here's something odd I can add to this thread--I was waiting to > meet a > > friend in a bookstore the other night, & a tiny book caught my > > eye--Psychic Self Defense by Samantha Stevens. I gave it a quick > skim > > & found an interesting mention--she described someone sending images > > into her dreams and said that the images were tinted brown & burned > > looking. This isn't relating to anything current, but quite a while > > back, I'd had some very odd dreams with images that seemed very > real, > > but misplaced (I remember feeling they were someone else's in my > > dream), and they were, oddly, tinted brown & sepia. At the time I > > rhought that reflected the other person's self-image. Anybody else > > have any experience with this? > > > > --J. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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