Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 , " darthon4 " <darthon4> wrote: > Because of constant demand from friends, (most of whom are scientists > mind you) I decided to give a mini-seminar on energy testing/energy > medicine a couple of weekends ago. > So between my friends bugging me on one side and Doc's suggestions on > the other, a new teacher has been " born " . Geeze, What next Doc?! What is real important here is the question Doctor Lori asked me about 3 weeks ago. Her question was, " Doc, how do I get better at this? " My answer, " Find some people and teach them. By teaching them you notice things you've never before noticed, and you learn tremendously fast from them! " Going to that EDGE makes you unify the conscious mind and the unconscious mind together, and you start automatically picking up on them and their unconscious thoughts. For example, look at Jim Knippenberg, who used to be a want-ta-bee teacher, but kept procrastinating. 5 years later, he finally got past that and actually put his actions up front. He is becoming very good, and is well worth training with, NOW. It the study, plus the doing, plus the teaching that gives you great skills. If you leave out any of the above then you are just a want-ta-bee. Good work lori and Jim. By the way, How many want-ta-bees are on this list?;-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hi DOC I am even afraid to it write on This email My stage which less frightens me ‘’ ‘’One day I will be My relatives and close friends knows About it Even one friend who started to see Things happen in my life Thinks I WILL BE VERY SUCCSSEFUL But read again the first sentence But still I DID WRITE AND SEND THIS EMAIL ORNA On Behalf Of docspeed2001 Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:16 PM Re: Me a teacher? What next?! , " darthon4 " <darthon4> wrote: > Because of constant demand from friends, (most of whom are scientists > mind you) I decided to give a mini-seminar on energy testing/energy > medicine a couple of weekends ago. > So between my friends bugging me on one side and Doc's suggestions on > the other, a new teacher has been " born " . Geeze, What next Doc?! What is real important here is the question Doctor Lori asked me about 3 weeks ago. Her question was, " Doc, how do I get better at this? " My answer, " Find some people and teach them. By teaching them you notice things you've never before noticed, and you learn tremendously fast from them! " Going to that EDGE makes you unify the conscious mind and the unconscious mind together, and you start automatically picking up on them and their unconscious thoughts. For example, look at Jim Knippenberg, who used to be a want-ta-bee teacher, but kept procrastinating. 5 years later, he finally got past that and actually put his actions up front. He is becoming very good, and is well worth training with, NOW. It the study, plus the doing, plus the teaching that gives you great skills. If you leave out any of the above then you are just a want-ta-bee. Good work lori and Jim. By the way, How many want-ta-bees are on this list?;-0 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18/11/2005 -- Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release 18/11/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 How interesting something went wrong and not Clear while sending the email Here is the clear one orna _____ simple [simple] Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:25 AM ' ' RE: Re: Me a teacher? What next?! Hi DOC I am even afraid to it write on This email My stage which less frightens ‘’One day I will be’’ My relatives and close friends knows About it Even one friend who started to see Things happen in my life Thinks I WILL BE VERY SUCCSSEFUL But read again the first sentence But still I DID WRITE AND SEND THIS EMAIL ORNA _____ On Behalf Of docspeed2001 Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:16 PM Re: Me a teacher? What next?! , " darthon4 " <darthon4> wrote: > Because of constant demand from friends, (most of whom are scientists > mind you) I decided to give a mini-seminar on energy testing/energy > medicine a couple of weekends ago. > So between my friends bugging me on one side and Doc's suggestions on > the other, a new teacher has been " born " . Geeze, What next Doc?! What is real important here is the question Doctor Lori asked me about 3 weeks ago. Her question was, " Doc, how do I get better at this? " My answer, " Find some people and teach them. By teaching them you notice things you've never before noticed, and you learn tremendously fast from them! " Going to that EDGE makes you unify the conscious mind and the unconscious mind together, and you start automatically picking up on them and their unconscious thoughts. For example, look at Jim Knippenberg, who used to be a want-ta-bee teacher, but kept procrastinating. 5 years later, he finally got past that and actually put his actions up front. He is becoming very good, and is well worth training with, NOW. It the study, plus the doing, plus the teaching that gives you great skills. If you leave out any of the above then you are just a want-ta-bee. Good work lori and Jim. By the way, How many want-ta-bees are on this list?;-0 _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 > My answer, " Find some people and teach them. By teaching them you > notice things you've never before noticed, and you learn > tremendously fast from them! " > Doc, this is almost EXACTLY the same answer that my martial arts teacher gave me back in the late 70s when I asked him how I could become a teacher. I mean almost word-for-word the same. And at that time I was scared shitless of making a mistake and teaching something wrong. My teacher's anwer was, " So what? If you teach something wrong and you realize that it's wrong, then go back and teach it right. " And now I'm having the same urge and the same fears about teaching the things that I'm learning from you and others. I wonder if this could be a recurring lesson in my life... One of the things that I discovered when I went to the Silva UM training was that most of the people there that were holding themselves out as being schooled in metaphysics, energy healing, etc., seem to have, at best, a tenuous grasp of the subject. They may have read a few things here and there but seem to have done no consistent drills to make the skills part of their daily life. So even though I view myself as a dope with only a small amount of training, it really is training in the sense that I've practiced what I've been taught. As such I'm able to address the subjects from the POV of personal experience rather than a knowedge that only bears the " stink of books " . It's all relative. These are not subjects that you can pick up by taking an onlince course at AIU. Those of us fortunate enough to be part of this little fraternity of ours are further ahead than we may realize becasue Doc has shown us ways to take the knowledge and turn it into skills. The rest is up to us. Confucious said that if you show a blind person one corner of a room, they should be able to find the other three corners by themselves. So when we do these drills and combine them with our own experiences, we make the knowldge our own. Then we can teach from our own experience and add to the richness of the experience for all of the rest of us. This stuff is WAY too much fun!! Happy Thanksgiving! Ron Matthews healingenergies- essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001> wrote: > > , " darthon4 " > <darthon4> wrote: > > > Because of constant demand from friends, (most of whom are > scientists > > mind you) I decided to give a mini-seminar on energy > testing/energy > > medicine a couple of weekends ago. > > > So between my friends bugging me on one side and Doc's suggestions > on > > the other, a new teacher has been " born " . Geeze, What next Doc?! > > What is real important here is the question Doctor Lori asked me > about 3 weeks ago. > > Her question was, " Doc, how do I get better at this? " > > My answer, " Find some people and teach them. By teaching them you > notice things you've never before noticed, and you learn > tremendously fast from them! " > > Going to that EDGE makes you unify the conscious mind and the > unconscious mind together, and you start automatically picking up on > them and their unconscious thoughts. > > For example, look at Jim Knippenberg, who used to be a want-ta-bee > teacher, but kept procrastinating. > > 5 years later, he finally got past that and actually put his actions > up front. He is becoming very good, and is well worth training with, > NOW. > > It the study, plus the doing, plus the teaching that gives you great > skills. > > If you leave out any of the above then you are just a want-ta-bee. > > Good work lori and Jim. > > By the way, How many want-ta-bees are on this list?;-0 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 What's interesting is that when I mentioned to a family member that I was going to do a seminar, his knee-jerk reaction was to scoff about it and immediately knock it down. He said " You don't have any experience teaching it, how can you teach? " I knew that would be his response and I wasn't surprised, and I NEVER listen to people who say things like that...LOL!....and I went on and taught my mini-seminar, and it turned out great, and it was fun. So my question is, how much experience is enough experience for someone to begin to teach? One hour? One week? Two years? Ten years? What? Oh well...you get the point. Just learn it, then do it, then teach it, then learn, and do and.... Thanks! Lori Who's expressing many heartfelt thanks to everyone this great Thanksgiving holiday. , " Ron Matthews " <marangneng> wrote: > (Snip) > > And now I'm having the same urge and the same fears about teaching > the things that I'm learning from you and others. I wonder if this > could be a recurring lesson in my life... > (Snip) > Those of us fortunate enough to be > part of this little fraternity of ours are further ahead than we may > realize becasue Doc has shown us ways to take the knowledge and turn > it into skills. The rest is up to us. (Snip) > > Ron Matthews > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 , " darthon4 " <darthon4> wrote: > > What's interesting is that when I mentioned to a family member that > I was going to do a seminar, his knee-jerk reaction was to scoff > about it and immediately knock it down. He said " You don't have > any experience teaching it, how can you teach? " Family members, in particular seem threatened by any extraordinary skills that we begin to develop/display. (Well, my family anyway.) <snip> > > So my question is, how much experience is enough experience for > someone to begin to teach? One hour? One week? Two years? Ten > years? > What? From my perspective, teaching is a talent that some people have naturally. I'm sure that you know of people that are very good at what they do, are very knowledgeable about their field, but are lousy teachers. And you've probably seen the converse to be true, too. When you get someone who is knowledgeable and passionate about what they're doing AND have a knack for teaching, you have someone that could be a dynamo after just a few weeks. (I hope that sentence made sense. I think that I'm suffering from a tryptophan overdose. 8^) > > Oh well...you get the point. Just learn it, then do it, then teach > it, then learn, and do and.... Absolutely! > > Thanks! > > Lori > > Who's expressing many heartfelt thanks to everyone this great > Thanksgiving holiday. Are you the same Lori that I met in Oregon back in October? If so, then I think you have the makings of a natural teacher and it should come as no surprise that you did an awesome seminar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 , " Ron Matthews " <marangneng> wrote: > > > From my perspective, teaching is a talent that some people have > naturally. I'm sure that you know of people that are very good at > what they do, are very knowledgeable about their field, but are lousy > teachers. Yes. A certain tenured professor does come to mind. I always wondered how those types end up tenured...and that maybe because he was tenured he didn't give a s--t about how, or even if, he taught it to you....and we students were " over a barrel " ..or maybe " in front of one " ;-) We were forced to fend for ourselves so to speak....and maybe fending for ourselves was good in many respects...and I ended up with a good grade and learned a lot in spite of it all...and that was that...mission accomplished. And you've probably seen the converse to be true, too. > > When you get someone who is knowledgeable and passionate about what > they're doing AND have a knack for teaching, you have someone that > could be a dynamo after just a few weeks. And fortunately I have teachers with those qualities. You can't help but be inspired and want to learn more from them, and about the subjects that they teach out on your own. The motivation to learn continues long after the teacher has taught... For the next person a great teacher could be something totally different, and that might even change from time to time for the teacher and the student. Do you think that maybe a good teacher knows what will motivate a student? > Are you the same Lori that I met in Oregon back in October? If so, > then I think you have the makings of a natural teacher and it should > come as no surprise that you did an awesome seminar! > Thanks Ron I appreciate that! Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 , " darthon4 " <darthon4> wrote: > > > Do you think that maybe a good teacher knows what will motivate a > student? I can only speak from my personal experience teaching topics in electrical engineering for a couple years and teaching martial arts, Qigong, etc. for about thirty years. For me, there was a feeling that I got when I knew that I was effectively connecting with a student. I'm not sure now if the feeling was in my gut or in my heart...maybe both. But there was a sort of non-verbal communication that oftne went on between us that clued me in that the student was on the verge of " getting it " . When that moment occured for them, it occured for me, too. When they " got it " I felt them get it and shared in their feeling of finally " getting it " . I think that interaction, all by itself, is makes teaching so rewarding. It makes up for all the other students that are just taking up space in your class (although I never allowed that type of student to remain in my martial arts schools). So I guess that this is a long-winded way of saying that I knew when my students were motivated, but I sometimes had to work at discovering exactly what motivated them. I just wish that I had been exposed to NLP back then... Believe me, I intend to debrief in this forum after I teach my first seminar. Getting input from the people on this forum is more valuable to me than most any other group that I have become associated with Onward and upward... Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Interesting about the " aha " , " got it " that a person you are teachig expresses. I posted something along those lines on the other group just a little while ago before coming across your reply here. It's a pretty cool experience.... Actually, now that I think of it, I also get that same connection when I teach one of my dogs or horses something new and they " get it " ...so it's not just limited to bipeds with frontal lobes :-) Lori , " Ron Matthews " <marangneng> wrote: > But there was a sort of non-verbal communication that oftne > went on between us that clued me in that the student was on the verge > of " getting it " . When that moment occured for them, it occured for > me, too. When they " got it " I felt them get it and shared in their > feeling of finally " getting it " . I think that interaction, all by > itself, is makes teaching so rewarding. It makes up for all the other > students that are just taking up space in your class> > Onward and upward... > > Ron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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