Chi Kung Secrets can be easily learned!

[Guest guest]

> " martha howard " <marthahhoward

>Hi Vince,

 

>You might want to let people know that Yang Jwing-ming

>doesn't " have it backwards. "

 

Well Martha, you got it wrong! And it is EASY VERIFIED.

 

Have you learned how to energy test, or are you just playing follow-

the-leader with your brain?

 

Simply put, when you back flush that collector vessel (trace from

the chin to the groin), the PERSON GOES WEAK!

 

There is ONLY one time and with one method (you want to know it?)

does that direction cause a strengthening of the bodies system and

Yang does NOT mention it in any of his books, or his translations

from the ancient Chinese texts!

 

Actually lady, YJM actually states that, " the old documents have a

problem. The problem is `they explain WHAT to do, but do NOT explain

WHY, and some will even just tell the process without explaining HOW

to do it! "

 

In fact at the end of his book, " The Root of Chinese Chi Kung " he

asks 89 questions that he HOPES others might have answers for.

 

Why does he ask those 89 questions? Because he does NOT have the

answers for them.

 

So get off your high horse, smile and learn something.

 

>The acupuncture

>meridian, known as circulation-sex, pericardium, or

>Ren (ren is the western transliteration of the Chinese

>character) does go up from the perineum to the chin.

 

You are totally INCORRECT! This is the DIRECTION that the CENTRAL

MERIDIAN goes, and " NOT " the direction that the Circulation Sex

meridian flows.

 

Circulation Sex meridian (also called Pericardium meridian) starts

at the outside of the nipple, comes up over the shoulder, goes down

inside the arm and off the middle finger.

 

And it's on BOTH SIDES.

 

Sorry buckwheat, you really screwed up!

 

You DON'T KNOW where the meridians are!

 

You don't know ANY of the 8 different energy systems that enhance

the health and youthfulness of the body and mind!

 

You DON'T KNOW the flows. So shut your mouth until you've got a clue!

 

>However, in doing the " microcosmic orbit " , the circle

>is done from the Dantian down through the perineum and

the tailbone and then up the spine, over the crown

>point, down through the mouth (that's why the tongue

>is connected, to make the 'circuit' and down the front

>to Dantian, and then repeat.

 

Yes, my poor lady, you do REPEAT (incorrectly I might add) how it is

explained, BUT you have VIRTUALLY " NO " VERIFICATION PROCESS for

anything you state.

 

You blither on and on about this or that guru telling you it is so,

so it must be true.

 

In fact you EVEN SCREW UP what Yang said.

 

Here let me give you a direct quote! " Through practicing the

Microcosmic Meditation (also known as Small Cycle Heaven from

Internal Elixir Qigong), a practitioner can circulate the Qi

(bioelectricity) smoothly in the Conception and the Governing

Vessels, the two major Qi vessels which regulate the Qi circulating

in the Twelve Primary Qi Channels. " (pg. 18 " Qigong Meditation " )

 

What is now real important in any CHI KUNG training, is that it is

now ALL VERIFIABLE, presupposing that you know how to ask the

correct questions; and that you are at least a 200 on the Hawkins

scale; and you've been taught how to energy test correctly.

 

>Part of the purpose of

>doing this is to convert sexual energy to spiritual

>energy--therefore, the energy along the front

>(pericardium) meridian goes against the direction of

>the meridian, and is thus " cooling " and the energy

>along the back (governor) and is therefore

> " tonifying. "

 

Sorry buckwheat, that is NOT what happens UNLESS a couple of other

things are taken into account...

 

....ESPECIALLY SINCE you are using the WRONG NAME for that front

collector vessel! You've demonstrated you know NOTHING about what

you are pretending to talk about.

 

Thing #1. The mind, with proper visualization CAN go in a reverse

direction on ANY meridian.

 

Unfortunately, when the meridian runs backwards FOR ANY REASON, you

then become HOMOLATERAL, which is a meridian condition that affects

the mind and the body of the practitioner, and affects them in a

NEGATIVE MANNER!

 

When you are homolateral your immune system is about 1/2 it's normal

level!

 

When you are homolateral your brain hemispheres ARE NOT connecting

properly so your thinking skills are VERY DIMINSHED!

 

When you are homolateral, your Triple Warmer meridian is STRONGLY

ENGAGED which does STOP COLD all the other meridians with the

exception of the Heart Meridian.

 

>With all due respect to ,

 

Well, lady " if " you did have respect for me, you would have EMAILED

ME instead of whining and bitching to Vince!

 

So knock off the PRETEND RESPECT. I have NO respect for you or your

back stabbing!

 

>he might want to find out more about a topic,

>especially a Taoist practice that is so ancient,

 

Get your head out of your ass!

 

Then wash out your eyes, and actually study from those that CAN

VERIFY their Chi Kung skills!

 

Ones who can heal with energy.

 

Ones who can injure with energy.

 

Ones who can actually " see " the energy as it is being changed,

enhanced and channeled!

 

And, if you want to know who to study with, ask politely and I'll

give a hint or two.

 

>before it says that a master like Yang Jwing-ming " got

>it backwards. " I hope this e mail is not widely

>circulated,

 

Actually it will be widely circulated! Why? Because YOU wrote it in

an attempt to back stab, to slander, to drive into the dirt.

 

And I'm pretty damn sure that you've already spread your vile poison

to all that will read and listen.

 

And, Yang Jwing-ming did get it backwards. Yang is one hell of a

Chinese historian and translator of ancient texts.

 

I've EVERY BOOK he's published, and most of his videos. I've been

STUDYING his materials for many, many years.

 

And, I give out his books to many, many black belt

friends/clients/students of mine every year!

 

I hold him in higher regard than virtually anyone else I've ever

studied, but SO WHAT?

 

The SHORT version that I gave Vince (he calls it Mr. Peanut which I

think is a very derogatory name for a good skill) over the telephone

a couple of years ago GETS POSITIVE RESULTS IMMEDIATELY!

 

The version that is in many of the ancient texts gets results very

slowly, IF AT ALL!

 

And the short version is ONLY a short version. At my seminars I give

much more complete versions.

 

And I also show how to enhance that meditation drill in a way that

is easy verifiable and USUABLE for whatever the client wants.

 

Longevity!

 

Youthfulness!

 

Better Sex!

 

Wealth Building!

 

Martial Arts enhancement!

 

Warrior Skills enhancement!

 

Psychic Skills enhancement and development!

 

Blab, blab, blab.

 

>because it would certainly make anyone who

>knows qigong have big questions about Dr. John M. La

Tourrette.

 

Goody, goody!

 

Hopefully they'll have 2 things going for them.

 

Thing #1, the BALLS to ask me politely and DIRECTLY!

 

Thing #2, the AWARENESS to DO THE DAMN DRILLS TO GET THE DAMN SKILLS!

 

If they've got those 2 things, THEN we'll get along great!

 

I love SMART questions. I abhor whining, bitching, back stabbers!

 

>Also, doing the practice in the way he

>describes could be harmful.

 

Grow up back stabber!

 

You could be a hermaphrodite too, though I'd be surprised if you

are. You are linguistically attempting to install doubt just because

you are a vile black widow spider.

 

Get over it.

 

It is SO EASY to validate scientifically " if " an energy drill is

enhancing your energies, or is detrimental to your energies!

 

In fact, I demonstrate this specific skill on my " Secrets of The

Kahuna Energy Disk " DVD.

 

In fact, on my 3 video Chi Kung Video set, " SECRETS OF STEALING HIS

SPIRIT BEFORE BATTLE! " I demonstrate and teach those skills to

martial arts athletes so they can use those ENERGY DEPLETION skills

AGAINST other martial artists!

 

Then those people go out into the world and practice those SELF-

ENERGY ENHANCING skills on themselves and their clients, and use the

ENERGY DEPLETION skills against the opposition.

 

These skills were also used in the 70's during a world class chess

match. There were 3 different Soviet Psychics in the audience

weakening the energy fields of the other player. He lost.

 

Chi Kung training and those skills ARE A NECESSARY PART OF ANY

BATTLE PLAN, even if it's a plan of self-healing!

 

I could easily turn this post into a 400 page book, but I won't. At

least I won't do it today.

 

>Take care,

>Martha

 

You too, sweetie pie.

 

 

Ph.D. Sports Psychology, Black Belt in 19 different martial Arts

styles, Producer of " Energy for Athletes " DVD's, Writer of 28

martial arts books, produced over 378 martial arts videos, Energy

Medicine Trainer, Chi Kung Trainer, NLP Trainer,

[Guest guest]

--- kahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote:

 

>

> Simply put, when you back flush that collector

> vessel (trace from

> the chin to the groin), the PERSON GOES WEAK!

>

> There is ONLY one time and with one method (you want

> to know it?)

> does that direction cause a strengthening of the

> bodies system

 

I don't know whether or not Martha's interested, but I

want to know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

My, my, my..... don't you have a huge ego...... maybe you need a pin to pop your ego to bring you down to earth ..... People can handle being incorrect, but you don't have to berate them. Judgment, anger and making people wrong are all shadow energies. You may want to reread you message with a new perspective that not everyone has master level education in acupuncture and energy lines of the body.... we are all here to learn and be helpful to other members of the group.... aka: be of service. Just by you being so negative with you email, do you realize how much noxious angry you have put into our Universe. Don't you think the world has enough of that.... we all need to send positive loving energy to our fellow beings. If you have not read the book, Power vs. Force, by David Hawkins, then I'd suggest that you do so. It's a wonderful

read.... he tested the vibration of words and how they effect us at a cellular level. And, I also suggest checking to see if you have any type of energy blocks in your liver, you may need to do a detox... I'd suggest Dr. Shultz 1-800-herb-doc. I hope you have a positive day and may the Universe bring you joy. Brendakahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote: > "martha howard" <marthahhoward>Hi Vince, >You might want to let people know that Yang Jwing-ming>doesn't "have it backwards."Well Martha, you got it wrong! And it is EASY VERIFIED.Have you learned how to energy test, or are you just playing follow-the-leader with your brain?Simply put, when you back flush that collector vessel (trace from

the chin to the groin), the PERSON GOES WEAK! There is ONLY one time and with one method (you want to know it?)does that direction cause a strengthening of the bodies system and Yang does NOT mention it in any of his books, or his translations from the ancient Chinese texts!Actually lady, YJM actually states that, "the old documents have a problem. The problem is `they explain WHAT to do, but do NOT explain WHY, and some will even just tell the process without explaining HOW to do it!"In fact at the end of his book, "The Root of Chinese Chi Kung" he asks 89 questions that he HOPES others might have answers for.Why does he ask those 89 questions? Because he does NOT have the answers for them.So get off your high horse, smile and learn something.>The acupuncture>meridian, known as circulation-sex, pericardium, or>Ren (ren is the western transliteration of the Chinese>character)

does go up from the perineum to the chin.You are totally INCORRECT! This is the DIRECTION that the CENTRAL MERIDIAN goes, and "NOT" the direction that the Circulation Sex meridian flows.Circulation Sex meridian (also called Pericardium meridian) starts at the outside of the nipple, comes up over the shoulder, goes down inside the arm and off the middle finger. And it's on BOTH SIDES.Sorry buckwheat, you really screwed up!You DON'T KNOW where the meridians are!You don't know ANY of the 8 different energy systems that enhance the health and youthfulness of the body and mind!You DON'T KNOW the flows. So shut your mouth until you've got a clue!>However, in doing the "microcosmic orbit", the circle>is done from the Dantian down through the perineum andthe tailbone and then up the spine, over the crown>point, down through the mouth (that's why the tongue>is connected, to make

the 'circuit' and down the front>to Dantian, and then repeat.Yes, my poor lady, you do REPEAT (incorrectly I might add) how it is explained, BUT you have VIRTUALLY "NO" VERIFICATION PROCESS for anything you state.You blither on and on about this or that guru telling you it is so, so it must be true.In fact you EVEN SCREW UP what Yang said. Here let me give you a direct quote! "Through practicing the Microcosmic Meditation (also known as Small Cycle Heaven from Internal Elixir Qigong), a practitioner can circulate the Qi (bioelectricity) smoothly in the Conception and the Governing Vessels, the two major Qi vessels which regulate the Qi circulating in the Twelve Primary Qi Channels." (pg. 18 "Qigong Meditation")What is now real important in any CHI KUNG training, is that it is now ALL VERIFIABLE, presupposing that you know how to ask the correct questions; and that you are at least a 200 on the

Hawkins scale; and you've been taught how to energy test correctly.>Part of the purpose of>doing this is to convert sexual energy to spiritual>energy--therefore, the energy along the front>(pericardium) meridian goes against the direction of>the meridian, and is thus "cooling" and the energy>along the back (governor) and is therefore>"tonifying."Sorry buckwheat, that is NOT what happens UNLESS a couple of other things are taken into account......ESPECIALLY SINCE you are using the WRONG NAME for that front collector vessel! You've demonstrated you know NOTHING about what you are pretending to talk about.Thing #1. The mind, with proper visualization CAN go in a reverse direction on ANY meridian.Unfortunately, when the meridian runs backwards FOR ANY REASON, you then become HOMOLATERAL, which is a meridian condition that affects the mind and the body of the practitioner, and

affects them in a NEGATIVE MANNER!When you are homolateral your immune system is about 1/2 it's normal level!When you are homolateral your brain hemispheres ARE NOT connecting properly so your thinking skills are VERY DIMINSHED!When you are homolateral, your Triple Warmer meridian is STRONGLY ENGAGED which does STOP COLD all the other meridians with the exception of the Heart Meridian.>With all due respect to ,Well, lady "if" you did have respect for me, you would have EMAILED ME instead of whining and bitching to Vince!So knock off the PRETEND RESPECT. I have NO respect for you or your back stabbing!>he might want to find out more about a topic,>especially a Taoist practice that is so ancient,Get your head out of your ass!Then wash out your eyes, and actually study from those that CAN VERIFY their Chi Kung skills! Ones who can heal

with energy. Ones who can injure with energy. Ones who can actually "see" the energy as it is being changed, enhanced and channeled!And, if you want to know who to study with, ask politely and I'll give a hint or two.>before it says that a master like Yang Jwing-ming "got>it backwards." I hope this e mail is not widely>circulated,Actually it will be widely circulated! Why? Because YOU wrote it in an attempt to back stab, to slander, to drive into the dirt.And I'm pretty damn sure that you've already spread your vile poison to all that will read and listen.And, Yang Jwing-ming did get it backwards. Yang is one hell of a Chinese historian and translator of ancient texts.I've EVERY BOOK he's published, and most of his videos. I've been STUDYING his materials for many, many years.And, I give out his books to many, many black belt friends/clients/students of mine every

year!I hold him in higher regard than virtually anyone else I've ever studied, but SO WHAT?The SHORT version that I gave Vince (he calls it Mr. Peanut which I think is a very derogatory name for a good skill) over the telephone a couple of years ago GETS POSITIVE RESULTS IMMEDIATELY! The version that is in many of the ancient texts gets results very slowly, IF AT ALL!And the short version is ONLY a short version. At my seminars I give much more complete versions.And I also show how to enhance that meditation drill in a way that is easy verifiable and USUABLE for whatever the client wants.Longevity!Youthfulness!Better Sex!Wealth Building!Martial Arts enhancement!Warrior Skills enhancement!Psychic Skills enhancement and development!Blab, blab, blab.>because it would certainly make anyone who>knows qigong have big questions about Dr. John M.

LaTourrette. Goody, goody!Hopefully they'll have 2 things going for them.Thing #1, the BALLS to ask me politely and DIRECTLY!Thing #2, the AWARENESS to DO THE DAMN DRILLS TO GET THE DAMN SKILLS!If they've got those 2 things, THEN we'll get along great!I love SMART questions. I abhor whining, bitching, back stabbers!>Also, doing the practice in the way he>describes could be harmful. Grow up back stabber!You could be a hermaphrodite too, though I'd be surprised if you are. You are linguistically attempting to install doubt just because you are a vile black widow spider.Get over it.It is SO EASY to validate scientifically "if" an energy drill is enhancing your energies, or is detrimental to your energies! In fact, I demonstrate this specific skill on my "Secrets of The Kahuna Energy Disk" DVD. In fact, on my 3 video Chi Kung Video set, "SECRETS OF

STEALING HIS SPIRIT BEFORE BATTLE!" I demonstrate and teach those skills to martial arts athletes so they can use those ENERGY DEPLETION skills AGAINST other martial artists!Then those people go out into the world and practice those SELF-ENERGY ENHANCING skills on themselves and their clients, and use the ENERGY DEPLETION skills against the opposition.These skills were also used in the 70's during a world class chess match. There were 3 different Soviet Psychics in the audience weakening the energy fields of the other player. He lost.Chi Kung training and those skills ARE A NECESSARY PART OF ANY BATTLE PLAN, even if it's a plan of self-healing!I could easily turn this post into a 400 page book, but I won't. At least I won't do it today.>Take care,>MarthaYou too, sweetie pie.Ph.D. Sports Psychology, Black Belt in 19 different martial Arts styles,

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[Guest guest]

Hi all,

 

I was going to hold off writing about my experience using the " Mr.

Peanut " drill, since I've only been doing it for a few days, but

after reading this post I decided I'd give some early feedback. I

felt a difference the first time I did it.

 

I did the drill at night, just before tracing my meridians. I could

feel the energy increase, but it's a different kind of energy, not an

intense energy but a " balanced " energy that felt " just right " . Also,

despite the increased energy and felling really alert, I slept like a

baby through the entire night.

 

I've gotten into the habit the past few months of doing the five

minute drill and tracing my meridians before I go to level to do my

RVRI exercises and programming in the evenings. I noticed that those

drills really help me stay relaxed, at theta, clear-headed. What I

noticed after including the " Mr.Peanut " drill is that the synesthesia

experience that often accompanies RV has been enhanced and very

pleasant. Could it be affecting my strange flows as well?

 

So far it seems that the drill enhances whatever I intend to do. In

my case sleep and RV.

 

Just for the record, would like to add that whenever I've energy

tested the central meridian after tracing backwards (lower lip to

pubic bone) either on me or on someone else, it energy tests weak.

When I trace it forward (pubic bone to lower lip) it tests strong.

 

Lori

 

 

, " kahunamaker "

<kahunamaker> wrote:

>

> > " martha howard " <marthahhoward@h...>

> >Hi Vince,

>

> >You might want to let people know that Yang Jwing-ming

> >doesn't " have it backwards. "

>

> Well Martha, you got it wrong! And it is EASY VERIFIED.

>

> Have you learned how to energy test, or are you just playing follow-

> the-leader with your brain?

>

> Simply put, when you back flush that collector vessel (trace from

> the chin to the groin), the PERSON GOES WEAK!

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>My, my, my..... don't you have a huge ego...... maybe you need a pin to pop your ego to bring you down to earth .....

`snip~

>>Brenda,>It may be hard to comprehend but Dr. La Tourrette's message was full of joy. (You gotta know the man or you can simply energy test.)

`snip'

 

Houston

- --------

Hmmm! "The meaning of a communication is the response it gets."

So docs what this post about?

 

rusty

 

PS. regarding the subject line, ~"Chi Kung Secrets can be easily learned"

 

I quote my Grandmaster, Herny Wang:

"I teach you secret.

You don't do it.

It still secret."

 

And my grandmaster's, master, Huang Sheng Shayan,

"Learn less; Practice more."

And his master, the legendary Cheng manCh'ing,

"The chief cause of failure is lack of perserverence."

Or as Doc would put it, "Just do the damn drills."

 

Sung.

rty

 

 

 

-

docresults

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:26 PM

Re: Chi Kung Secrets can be easily learned!

Brenda,It may be hard to comprehend but Dr. La Tourrette's message was full of joy. (You gotta know the man or you can simply energy test.) The judgement he was pointing out was that of Martha by taking the same angry and judgmental tone Martha had used and simply amplified it to the level of being noticeable by the reader.The level I read his email on had a purposeful balance of negativity and kindness. And the straw dog junko-logic of negative or positive energy (the models were discussed a few post back) does not hold up. Since the law of duality requires that everything and its' opposite be present at all times. i.e. you can't have positive without having negative right there.Have you read Power vs Force from a process level as Dr. La Tourrette referred to it in his previous email before this one. Or did your reaction cause you to miss that part.Dr. La Tourrette is a Wood Element and a teacher. What looks like a blockage in the liver or needing of detoxing is actually using the strengths of the liver/wood balance anger and kindness. Which he did quite well in his post.To Your Best,Dr. Houston VetterAt 11:12 AM 12/13/2005, you wrote:

My, my, my..... don't you have a huge ego...... maybe you need a pin to pop your ego to bring you down to earth ..... People can handle being incorrect, but you don't have to berate them. Judgment, anger and making people wrong are all shadow energies. You may want to reread you message with a new perspective that not everyone has master level education in acupuncture and energy lines of the body.... we are all here to learn and be helpful to other members of the group.... aka: be of service. Just by you being so negative with you email, do you realize how much noxious angry you have put into our Universe. Don't you think the world has enough of that.... we all need to send positive loving energy to our fellow beings. If you have not read the book, Power vs. Force, by David Hawkins, then I'd suggest that you do so. It's a wonderful read.... he tested the vibration of words and how they effect us at a cellular level. And, I also suggest checking to see if you have any type of energy blocks in your liver, you may need to do a detox... I'd suggest Dr. Shultz 1-800-herb-doc. I hope you have a positive day and may the Universe bring you joy. Brendakahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote:

 

> "martha howard" <marthahhoward

>Hi Vince,

>You might want to let people know that Yang Jwing-ming

>doesn't "have it backwards."

Well Martha, you got it wrong! And it is EASY VERIFIED.

Have you learned how to energy test, or are you just playing follow-

the-leader with your brain?

Simply put, when you back flush that collector vessel (trace from

the chin to the groin), the PERSON GOES WEAK!

There is ONLY one time and with one method (you want to know it?)

does that direction cause a strengthening of the bodies system and

Yang does NOT mention it in any of his books, or his translations

from the ancient Chinese texts!

Actually lady, YJM actually states that, "the old documents have a

problem. The problem is `they explain WHAT to do, but do NOT explain

WHY, and some will even just tell the process without explaining HOW

to do it!"

In fact at the end of his book, "The Root of Chinese Chi Kung" he

asks 89 questions that he HOPES others might have answers for.