OLD AGE and being Pigs is very different

[Guest guest]

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " barbara101ann "

<barbara101ann> wrote:

> I've thought about what Doc said about being out of shape and

here's

> what I came up with.

>

> Doc is a metal element,

 

Sorry your wrong.

Doc is a wood element.

 

>and used to be a world class martial arts

 

USED TO BE!!!!!!!!

Who the fuck are you to say that?

He IS a World Class Grand Master.

 

He is so far beyond a martial artist.

He is a Master at his craft.

 

You speak of him like you " know " . Fuck you!

Have you fought him lately?

 

> athlete, starting to win competition tournaments back in the 50's,

> through the 60's, and into the 70's and 80's. And then he trained

> others to win those competions up until the present time.

>

> He was a superb athlete.

 

WAS!!! Again, fuck you!!

What the hell do you know about it?

 

What have you done to say that?

Are you a 10th degree black belt? Do you own and run a school, and

train black belts 6 days a week?

 

> Doc is still a fit human, and very good at what he does, when

compared

> to others that are within either side of him age wise.

 

Compared?!!

Doc IS very, very amazingly awesome at what he does,

regardless of age.

In fact who can you compare himwith? There is NO ONE! No one of his

caliber, no one who knows what he knows.

>

> We, on the other hand, are looking at a Kung-fu Master, a man that

is

> in his mid 60's, that can whomp butt better than almost any other

> person on the planet.

 

So what's with all the bullshit above if you believe this?

I think here you are trying to cover your ass because you know if

you piss off that tiger he will eat you alive.

 

To me this sounds like placating, and proves again how little you

know.

 

>The man that is world famous for being able to

> hit a man 10-18 times in one second or less. The man that knows

dim

> mak and Qi Kong so well that he can devastate another almost

> instantly. A man that is so well training in the healing arts that

he

> is famous for those skills also.

> Doc probably ignores that, because to him that stuff is actually

> simple.

> Doc is a very proactive type of individual. I do wonder what he is

now doing to rectify the situation he has found himself in? I know

I'll be surprised the next time I see him in Feb.

> Barbara Ann

 

If he gains 500 more pounds by February you'll still be surprised.

 

Because of his skill in teaching, and training, and health.

Ifyou pay any attention to what he teaches in February you might get

an inkling of how much he knows and how amazing that he is willing

to teach it to you.

He could be that master on the mountain, or a charletan, he doesn't

have to be on this group or give seminars.

 

I'd like to think it was just a mistake on your part, you really

ment the last paragragh and the rest of this post was just you

mixing up verb tenses.

Maybe you should go back and study some back posts or maybe just

pull your head out of your ass.

Kali

 

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc, Kalimagic, and all;

 

Hm, I got something different when I first read her post but maybe I was

being to easy. I'm still not sure.

 

Doc did say a lot of negative self talk in his original post. For me, I

thought he was revealing his internal 'away from' motivational strategies

for the groups' benefit.

 

The tone I took from Barbara's reply was one of accepting his words at face

value and trying to say something nice that was true to 'help' him with his

self-image while agreeing with him to establish rapport. Maybe I was wrong

and its intent was a covert attack and I missed it and then again maybe I

was right and Barbara's own filters of interpretation were revealed by the

way she replied.

 

In any case,

1. I appreciate the loyalty that Kali showed here (Loyalty is very high in

my hierarchy of values)

2. Everything Kali said about Doc's skills was and is true.

3. Doc is a very strong wood element with a strong secondary element of

metal. Kind of like an Oak tree...very solid.

4. The real question now to remote view for the rest of us is Barbara's

intent.

5. And I want to ask Barbara to please use this as a learning experience.

6. Barbara, please reply in the learning mode and avoid going into

self-defense mode as it would be far more beneficial for the group and

yourself.

 

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!!!!!

 

Walter Hurlbut

 

PS as to all the PC crap about " Christmas " or " happy holidays " ...I don't

personally have a problem with celebrating the life of an extraordinary man

that changed the course of civilization for literally thousands of years

whether you believe he was 'god' or not.

 

 

 

On Behalf Of

kalimagick

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:03 PM

 

OLD AGE and being Pigs is very

different

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " barbara101ann "

<barbara101ann> wrote:

> I've thought about what Doc said about being out of shape and

here's

> what I came up with.

>

> Doc is a metal element,

 

Sorry your wrong.

Doc is a wood element.

 

>and used to be a world class martial arts

 

USED TO BE!!!!!!!!

Who the fuck are you to say that?

He IS a World Class Grand Master.

 

He is so far beyond a martial artist.

He is a Master at his craft.

 

You speak of him like you " know " . Fuck you!

Have you fought him lately?

 

> athlete, starting to win competition tournaments back in the 50's,

> through the 60's, and into the 70's and 80's. And then he trained

> others to win those competions up until the present time.

>

> He was a superb athlete.

 

WAS!!! Again, fuck you!!

What the hell do you know about it?

 

What have you done to say that?

Are you a 10th degree black belt? Do you own and run a school, and

train black belts 6 days a week?

 

> Doc is still a fit human, and very good at what he does, when

compared

> to others that are within either side of him age wise.

 

Compared?!!

Doc IS very, very amazingly awesome at what he does,

regardless of age.

In fact who can you compare himwith? There is NO ONE! No one of his

caliber, no one who knows what he knows.

>

> We, on the other hand, are looking at a Kung-fu Master, a man that

is

> in his mid 60's, that can whomp butt better than almost any other

> person on the planet.

 

So what's with all the bullshit above if you believe this?

I think here you are trying to cover your ass because you know if

you piss off that tiger he will eat you alive.

 

To me this sounds like placating, and proves again how little you

know.

 

>The man that is world famous for being able to

> hit a man 10-18 times in one second or less. The man that knows

dim

> mak and Qi Kong so well that he can devastate another almost

> instantly. A man that is so well training in the healing arts that

he

> is famous for those skills also.

> Doc probably ignores that, because to him that stuff is actually

> simple.

> Doc is a very proactive type of individual. I do wonder what he is

now doing to rectify the situation he has found himself in? I know

I'll be surprised the next time I see him in Feb.

> Barbara Ann

 

If he gains 500 more pounds by February you'll still be surprised.

 

Because of his skill in teaching, and training, and health.

Ifyou pay any attention to what he teaches in February you might get

an inkling of how much he knows and how amazing that he is willing

to teach it to you.

He could be that master on the mountain, or a charletan, he doesn't

have to be on this group or give seminars.

 

I'd like to think it was just a mistake on your part, you really

ment the last paragragh and the rest of this post was just you

mixing up verb tenses.

Maybe you should go back and study some back posts or maybe just

pull your head out of your ass.

Kali

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Walter, Kali, Doc, and all,

 

This is funny because I've heard Doc refer to himself as a metal/wood

and have seen it in print (see post #16420 on MMES). The impressions

I've had of him since meeting him and training with him is that he's

metal/wood. On the otherhand I haven't known Doc any where near as

long as Kali or Walter have though, so that could be a factor as well

as my own filters. Only Doc knows for sure.

 

As for his skills, I've witnessed him do some amazing things that

seem to defy some of the " natural laws " I once thought I understood

very well, scientific metal type that I am. I'd be happy if I could

do a tiny fraction of what Doc can at his skill level, which to me

seems unattainable at this point in my training.

 

I also didn't read Barbara Ann's post as an attack, just her

different perspective and an attempt to explain Doc's post about

getting in shape, even though I didn't think he needed it. Which is

why his post originally caught my attention.

 

I also don't think Doc's original post was necessarily addressing

himself but possibly was a message aimed at a much a higher level.

 

Go back and read message #4466 on HE. If you chunk up, you might see

that it has more to do with first recognizing something needs to be

improved in ourselves and then using all those neat skills we learn

here to improve whatever that might be for us.

 

Then again maybe its my mindread ;-).

 

Lori

 

 

, " Walter

Hurlbut " <whurlbut@c...> wrote:

>

> Hi Doc, Kalimagic, and all;

>

> Hm, I got something different when I first read her post but maybe

I was

> being to easy. I'm still not sure.

>

> Doc did say a lot of negative self talk in his original post. For

me, I

> thought he was revealing his internal 'away from' motivational

strategies

> for the groups' benefit.

>

> The tone I took from Barbara's reply was one of accepting his words

at face

> value and trying to say something nice that was true to 'help' him

with his

> self-image while agreeing with him to establish rapport. Maybe I

was wrong

> and its intent was a covert attack and I missed it and then again

maybe I

> was right and Barbara's own filters of interpretation were revealed

by the

> way she replied.

>

> In any case,

> 1. I appreciate the loyalty that Kali showed here (Loyalty is very

high in

> my hierarchy of values)

> 2. Everything Kali said about Doc's skills was and is true.

> 3. Doc is a very strong wood element with a strong secondary

element of

> metal. Kind of like an Oak tree...very solid.

> 4. The real question now to remote view for the rest of us is

Barbara's

> intent.

> 5. And I want to ask Barbara to please use this as a learning

experience.

> 6. Barbara, please reply in the learning mode and avoid going into

> self-defense mode as it would be far more beneficial for the group

and

> yourself.

>

> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!!!!!

>

> Walter Hurlbut

>

> PS as to all the PC crap about " Christmas " or " happy holidays " ...I

don't

> personally have a problem with celebrating the life of an

extraordinary man

> that changed the course of civilization for literally thousands of

years

> whether you believe he was 'god' or not.

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> kalimagick

> Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:03 PM

>

> OLD AGE and being Pigs

is very

> different

>

> healingenergies-

> essentialskills , " barbara101ann "

> <barbara101ann> wrote:

> > I've thought about what Doc said about being out of shape and

> here's

> > what I came up with.

> >

> > Doc is a metal element,

>

> Sorry your wrong.

> Doc is a wood element.

>

> >and used to be a world class martial arts

>

> USED TO BE!!!!!!!!

> Who the fuck are you to say that?

> He IS a World Class Grand Master.

>

> He is so far beyond a martial artist.

> He is a Master at his craft.

>

> You speak of him like you " know " . Fuck you!

> Have you fought him lately?

>

> > athlete, starting to win competition tournaments back in the 50's,

> > through the 60's, and into the 70's and 80's. And then he trained

> > others to win those competions up until the present time.

> >

> > He was a superb athlete.

>

> WAS!!! Again, fuck you!!

> What the hell do you know about it?

>

> What have you done to say that?

> Are you a 10th degree black belt? Do you own and run a school, and

> train black belts 6 days a week?

>

> > Doc is still a fit human, and very good at what he does, when

> compared

> > to others that are within either side of him age wise.

>

> Compared?!!

> Doc IS very, very amazingly awesome at what he does,

> regardless of age.

> In fact who can you compare himwith? There is NO ONE! No one of his

> caliber, no one who knows what he knows.

> >

> > We, on the other hand, are looking at a Kung-fu Master, a man that

> is

> > in his mid 60's, that can whomp butt better than almost any other

> > person on the planet.

>

> So what's with all the bullshit above if you believe this?

> I think here you are trying to cover your ass because you know if

> you piss off that tiger he will eat you alive.

>

> To me this sounds like placating, and proves again how little you

> know.

>

> >The man that is world famous for being able to

> > hit a man 10-18 times in one second or less. The man that knows

> dim

> > mak and Qi Kong so well that he can devastate another almost

> > instantly. A man that is so well training in the healing arts that

> he

> > is famous for those skills also.

> > Doc probably ignores that, because to him that stuff is actually

> > simple.

> > Doc is a very proactive type of individual. I do wonder what he is

> now doing to rectify the situation he has found himself in? I know

> I'll be surprised the next time I see him in Feb.

> > Barbara Ann

>

> If he gains 500 more pounds by February you'll still be surprised.

>

> Because of his skill in teaching, and training, and health.

> Ifyou pay any attention to what he teaches in February you might get

> an inkling of how much he knows and how amazing that he is willing

> to teach it to you.

> He could be that master on the mountain, or a charletan, he doesn't

> have to be on this group or give seminars.

>

> I'd like to think it was just a mistake on your part, you really

> ment the last paragragh and the rest of this post was just you

> mixing up verb tenses.

> Maybe you should go back and study some back posts or maybe just

> pull your head out of your ass.

> Kali

>

> >

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

 

Ok, maybe what I said about Doc's post was an overgeneralization. Three was

a lot of instructional information there. His post was full of different

teaching tools and this could go on at length in a detail-oriented

description. The bottom line from my perspective was he wrote it to be

instructional. There was a lot there. And metal/Wood or Wood/Metal... well

everyone at times is any one of the elements you want to pick at some time

or another. I wrote what I see him as most of the time. Funny thing is, he

is very different in different contexts. Perhaps, at the time he wrote that

metal was dominant. The only person who can know for sure what state he was

in then is him. Just as Barbara's post came from a place only she may know

for sure. The rest of us can calibrate and match it. How well depends on the

tool(s) used and the skill of the user. Anyone tried using any of the tools

Doc teaches for this task yet? What did you get?

 

Have fun,

 

Walter Hurlbut

 

 

 

On Behalf Of

darthon4

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:56 PM

 

Re: OLD AGE and being Pigs is

very different

 

Hi Walter, Kali, Doc, and all,

 

This is funny because I've heard Doc refer to himself as a metal/wood

and have seen it in print (see post #16420 on MMES). The impressions

I've had of him since meeting him and training with him is that he's

metal/wood. On the otherhand I haven't known Doc any where near as

long as Kali or Walter have though, so that could be a factor as well

as my own filters. Only Doc knows for sure.

 

As for his skills, I've witnessed him do some amazing things that

seem to defy some of the " natural laws " I once thought I understood

very well, scientific metal type that I am. I'd be happy if I could

do a tiny fraction of what Doc can at his skill level, which to me

seems unattainable at this point in my training.

 

I also didn't read Barbara Ann's post as an attack, just her

different perspective and an attempt to explain Doc's post about

getting in shape, even though I didn't think he needed it. Which is

why his post originally caught my attention.

 

I also don't think Doc's original post was necessarily addressing

himself but possibly was a message aimed at a much a higher level.

 

Go back and read message #4466 on HE. If you chunk up, you might see

that it has more to do with first recognizing something needs to be

improved in ourselves and then using all those neat skills we learn

here to improve whatever that might be for us.

 

Then again maybe its my mindread ;-).

 

Lori

 

 

, " Walter

Hurlbut " <whurlbut@c...> wrote:

>

> Hi Doc, Kalimagic, and all;

>

> Hm, I got something different when I first read her post but maybe

I was

> being to easy. I'm still not sure.

>

> Doc did say a lot of negative self talk in his original post. For

me, I

> thought he was revealing his internal 'away from' motivational

strategies

> for the groups' benefit.

>

> The tone I took from Barbara's reply was one of accepting his words

at face

> value and trying to say something nice that was true to 'help' him

with his

> self-image while agreeing with him to establish rapport. Maybe I

was wrong

> and its intent was a covert attack and I missed it and then again

maybe I

> was right and Barbara's own filters of interpretation were revealed

by the

> way she replied.

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