To Rusty, and others interested in Chi Kung!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi Rusty,

 

I remember your post from BEFORE I went on my holiday trips...

 

Sorry for not answering it earlier, but it did slip out of my

consciousness for a week or two...

 

....so, in answer to your question, THAT FLOW is also the penetrating

flow (from the Radiant Circuits)...

 

....and it does NOT stop at the chest, then flare out...

 

....but it does flare out, because it is a Radiant Circuits, and it

also goes upwards to the corners of the mouth...

 

....which is the reason that a " smile done with the Radiant

Circuits 'turn on' the one that you smile at " ...

 

....and then it goes up, like I said before to Lori, " into the

nose " ...

 

....which is the reason for the nostrial breathing that is done by

the Hindu's for their psychic enhancement skills.

 

A very short post on a very important Psychic Skills topic!

 

 

[Guest guest]

Following is from a private email exchange I had with Doc on the

subject post that he said I could repost.

 

I thought it was odd that a book I started reading on the science of

breathing, written by a Yogi, had no mention of where to position the

tongue for the breathing exercises in the book, something I always

thought was important...

 

Lori

 

-----------------------

> I just starting to read a couple of days ago a

> book I've had for awhile, but never read, " Science

> of Breath " by Yogi Ramacharaka .

 

That's just another pen name of atkinson.

I never use his books for real stuff.

I've refering to the drill given by Edgar Cayce.

 

> Maybe tongue position doesn't matter to the

> Indians, because when the mouth is closed the tongue

> naturally seems to touch the roof anyway.

 

He wasn't an indian.

 

And they also connect with the tongue.

 

He just didn't know what he was talking about.

 

> Which reminds me I have a heck of a time keeping

> the tongue away from my roof when I go to level as

> you suggested at the last workshop. It naturally

> wants to drift back to the roof all the time.

 

I don't do a tongue drop now, either.

 

The conscious tongue drop is for those that are so

tense, that they need to relax more.

 

I now do a " jaw drop " .

 

Good Questions.

(snip)

Sincerely,

Doc

 

> Thanks,

> Lori

 

----Original message----

 

Hi Doc,

 

I just starting to read a couple of days ago a book I've had for

awhile, but never read, " Science of Breath " by Yogi Ramacharaka .

 

Would the nostril breathing you mention be the " yogi complete

breathing " that's described in the book?

 

I presume the significance of nostril breathing has to do with the

ida and pingala that wind up the spine tothe nostrils. But that book

never specifices if you keep the tongue in contact with the roof of

the mouth closest to where ida and pingala both end (at the nostrils)

though.

 

What's interesting is that the breathing method I use in medical

Qigong is also nostril beathing. And they are pretty adamant about

keeping the tongue in constant contact with the roof of the mouth

while always breathing with the mouth closed. The inhale and exhale

are done a different way.

 

Maybe tongue position doesn't matter to the Indians, because when the

mouth is closed the tongue naturally seems to touch the roof anyway.

 

Which reminds me I have a heck of a time keeping the tongue away from

my roof when I go to level as you suggested at the last workshop. It

naturally wants to drift back to the roof all the time.

Thanks,

Lori

 

 

> ...so, in answer to your question, THAT FLOW is also the

penetrating

> flow (from the Radiant Circuits)...

>

> ...and it does NOT stop at the chest, then flare out...

>

> ...but it does flare out, because it is a Radiant Circuits, and it

> also goes upwards to the corners of the mouth...

>

> ...which is the reason that a " smile done with the Radiant

> Circuits 'turn on' the one that you smile at " ...

>

> ...and then it goes up, like I said before to Lori, " into the

> nose " ...

>

> ...which is the reason for the nostrial breathing that is done by

> the Hindu's for their psychic enhancement skills.

>

> A very short post on a very important Psychic Skills topic!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you ever just touched your tongue to the back of your 2 front teeth.

Great for relaxing. Daze'

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of

darthon4

Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:53 PM

 

Re: To Rusty, and others

interested in Chi Kung!!!

 

 

Following is from a private email exchange I had with Doc on the

subject post that he said I could repost.

 

I thought it was odd that a book I started reading on the science of

breathing, written by a Yogi, had no mention of where to position the

tongue for the breathing exercises in the book, something I always

thought was important...

 

Lori

 

-----------------------

> I just starting to read a couple of days ago a

> book I've had for awhile, but never read, " Science

> of Breath " by Yogi Ramacharaka .

 

That's just another pen name of atkinson.

I never use his books for real stuff.

I've refering to the drill given by Edgar Cayce.

 

> Maybe tongue position doesn't matter to the

> Indians, because when the mouth is closed the tongue

> naturally seems to touch the roof anyway.

 

He wasn't an indian.

 

And they also connect with the tongue.

 

He just didn't know what he was talking about.

 

> Which reminds me I have a heck of a time keeping

> the tongue away from my roof when I go to level as

> you suggested at the last workshop. It naturally

> wants to drift back to the roof all the time.

 

I don't do a tongue drop now, either.

 

The conscious tongue drop is for those that are so

tense, that they need to relax more.

 

I now do a " jaw drop " .

 

Good Questions.

(snip)

Sincerely,

Doc

 

> Thanks,

> Lori

 

----Original message----

 

Hi Doc,

 

I just starting to read a couple of days ago a book I've had for

awhile, but never read, " Science of Breath " by Yogi Ramacharaka .

[Guest guest]

Yes I just did. For me it seems to work better with the lower front

teeth, seems to give the tongue a place to rest...and even more

relaxing with the jaw dropped slightly I just noticed.

 

Will see how it works at level.

 

Thanks

 

Lori

 

 

, " Daze'

Lisenkoff, Ph.D., C.Ht. " <daze@h...> wrote:

>

> Have you ever just touched your tongue to the back of your 2 front

teeth.

> Great for relaxing. Daze'

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf

Of

> darthon4

> Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:53 PM

>

> Re: To Rusty, and others

> interested in Chi Kung!!!

>

>

> Following is from a private email exchange I had with Doc on the

> subject post that he said I could repost.

>

> I thought it was odd that a book I started reading on the science

of

> breathing, written by a Yogi, had no mention of where to position

the

> tongue for the breathing exercises in the book, something I always

> thought was important...

>

> Lori

>

> -----------------------

> > I just starting to read a couple of days ago a

> > book I've had for awhile, but never read, " Science

> > of Breath " by Yogi Ramacharaka .

>

> That's just another pen name of atkinson.

> I never use his books for real stuff.

> I've refering to the drill given by Edgar Cayce.

>

> > Maybe tongue position doesn't matter to the

> > Indians, because when the mouth is closed the tongue

> > naturally seems to touch the roof anyway.

>

> He wasn't an indian.

>

> And they also connect with the tongue.

>

> He just didn't know what he was talking about.

>

> > Which reminds me I have a heck of a time keeping

> > the tongue away from my roof when I go to level as

> > you suggested at the last workshop. It naturally

> > wants to drift back to the roof all the time.

>

> I don't do a tongue drop now, either.

>

> The conscious tongue drop is for those that are so

> tense, that they need to relax more.

>

> I now do a " jaw drop " .

>

> Good Questions.

> (snip)

> Sincerely,

> Doc

>

> > Thanks,

> > Lori

>

[Guest guest]

> For me it seems to work better with the lower front

teeth, seems to give the tongue a place to rest.

-

Lori. The spot that we use in taiji is ALWAYS the point where the two front

teeth meet the gum at the roof of the mouth thus connecting the central and

governing meridians.

This is also a place which stimulates saliva. Swallowing saliva gives a chi

boost. In China, if you see someone spitting it's definitely NOT Chi Gong as

spitting is dicarding chi.

 

rusty

[Guest guest]

Hi Rusty,

 

I think I need to clarify. I wasn't using that tongue position

(touching the lower front teeth with my jaw slightly dropped) for

Qigong at all, I was using it for going to level (ala Silva Mind

Control/RVRI).

 

While at level the objective was to keep the tongue AWAY from the

roof to relax and/or to drop the jaw to accomplish the same. I was

simply describing a way I found to comfortably rest my tongue AWAY

from my roof because it kept wanting to naturally drift back up to my

roof where I didn't want it to be.

 

And when I do Qigong I ALWAYS touch the roof. I mention it in the

earlier post(see HE # 4634). A lot of it got edited by the time it

got to this post. We were discussing a few different things in the

original post.

 

Thanks, sorry for if I confused you....

 

Lori ;-)

 

 

 

, lwinmorgan

<lwinmorgan@s...> wrote:

>

> > For me it seems to work better with the lower front

> teeth, seems to give the tongue a place to rest.

> -

> Lori. The spot that we use in taiji is ALWAYS the point where the

two front teeth meet the gum at the roof of the mouth thus connecting

the central and governing meridians.

> This is also a place which stimulates saliva. Swallowing saliva

gives a chi boost. In China, if you see someone spitting it's

definitely NOT Chi Gong as spitting is dicarding chi.

>

> rusty

>