Feedback on a couple of Doc's courses and a question...

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc,

 

I writing to give you some feedback on the experiences

I've had with a couple of your courses. You may recall that when I

was at your seminar in October I told you that I knew there was

significance in the way you were saying things, but that I had no

idea what that significance was. You told me to take your videos and

study them carefully. Well, I took you at your word.

 

One of the courses that I bought on October 23 was your

Covert Hypnosis course. I began watching it and at about the third

video in the course I realized that " I don't get what Doc's talking

about. I think that I need to get some more background knowledge

before I'm ready to get the most out of this course. So if I knew how

to get the background necessary to understand what Doc's talking

about, what would I do to get it? " (You were working with one of the

women at your seminar and at one point you said, " did you notice the

shift in her physiology? Well, I didn't notice it.) After I asked the

magic question, the first thing that popped into my head was to read

the book " Unlimited Selling Power " . I was just finishing

reading " Words That Change Minds " so I quickly finished it and

finished making my flash cards for it and then I began

reading " Unlimited Selling Power " . Son-of-a-bitch! They seemed to be

describing the way that you construct your sentences! Aha! A piece of

the puzzle!

 

The next thing I did was got the book " My Voice Will Go

With You " and began reading more about Ericksonian hypnosis. As I was

reading it, the latest installment of the stuff that I ordered back

in October arrived and I immediately began watching the Inner Demon

Destroyer course. Then I watched the Kahuna Money Magnet course and

in both of those courses you REALLY spelled out how to use hypnotic

language in a way that I could relate to.

 

Now, I can actually recognize the some of the hypnotic

language patterns that you use and they make sense. I have a couple

more books on Ericksonian hypnosis that I'm going to read and I have

a couple of DVDs on hypnosis by Wendi Friesen (imagine my surprise

when I discovered that she is on your !) While I realize

that I'm starting to recognize the patterns you are using, it's just

a beginning. So, if I may pose this question: what do you recommend

for further books or courses that would bring me further along my

path. I prefer books at the moment.

 

I have a couple of other things to email you about, but I

wanted to confine this email to a single topic so that I could keep

my thoughts more clearly focused and not make this correspondence too

long.

 

Thanks Doc! I feel like I've grown by leaps and bounds since I went

to your seminar in October!

 

--

Best regards,

 

Ron Matthews

[Guest guest]

Hi Ron

 

Although your email referred To Doc

 

I have some insights I want to share

 

It’s seems to me-and maybe I am wrong

 

That the part that you don’t understand Comes from your conscious

 

I have the same way of thinking

 

And if I don’t understand I tend not to do or

 

To read more and more and more

 

Or first to understand But When I trust and I know this brings results

 

I just do

 

And when I am brave doing that

 

Experiencing trying in real life I gain

 

I had a long period in life that I read a lot Trying to make changes

 

From reading books I didn’t achieve changes I wanted in my life

 

Only doing drills and listen and do What the different teachers and coaches I

had Told me got me to new areas I didn’t know exists and works for me

 

It’s in the area of experience

 

Just some thoughts

Orna

 

_____

[Guest guest]

Orna,

 

So is your pre-supposition here that because I asked the question the

way that I did that I'm not doing any of the drills?

 

Do you mean energy drills like

 

The 3 thumps...

Meridian tracing...

Popping the ears...

Beltline flow...

Opening the Ileocecal and Houston valves...

Crown Pull...

Connecting Between Heaven and Earth...

The Wayne Cook Posture...

The Homolateral Cross Crawl...

Zipping up the Conception Vessel (Central Meridian) and Governing

Vessel with Segment-intending

 

You mean those?

 

Or maybe you mean going to level each and every day and using that

time to practice my RV/RI remote healing skills and to create

projects that will bring me to me desired outcome.

 

Or maybe you mean drills like practicing the language patterns

described in Words that Change Minds. You know the ones I'm talking

about... for influencing Away-from vs. toward-motivated people; or

for influencing Internally/Externally focused prople; for influencing

Proactive/Reactive people. You mean those drills?

 

Or maybe you mean using anchor stacking to blow away my daughter's

math anxiety.

 

Or maybe you mean using Doc's Inner Demon Destroyer to bring my

wife's fear of being alone in the house when I'm away from a 9 down

to a zero.

 

If you mean those things, then I'm on it.

 

I asked the question because I've been doing this stuff for way less

than a year, and as you pointed out the stuff works if you do it. So

now I'm doing it and I have an idea of a path that I need to follow,

so now it's time to recalibrate. Hence my questions.

 

Thanks for your input.

 

Ron Matthews

[Guest guest]

Oh Shit!

 

I'm created a madman.

An evil person that " gets shit done " .

Orna, you are NEXT.

Sincerely,;-)

 

 

-- In , " Ron

Matthews " <marangneng> wrote:

>

> Orna,

>

> So is your pre-supposition here that because I asked the question

the

> way that I did that I'm not doing any of the drills?

>

> Do you mean energy drills like

>

> The 3 thumps...

> Meridian tracing...

> Popping the ears...

> Beltline flow...

> Opening the Ileocecal and Houston valves...

> Crown Pull...

> Connecting Between Heaven and Earth...

> The Wayne Cook Posture...

> The Homolateral Cross Crawl...

> Zipping up the Conception Vessel (Central Meridian) and

Governing

> Vessel with Segment-intending

>

> You mean those?

>

> Or maybe you mean going to level each and every day and using that

> time to practice my RV/RI remote healing skills and to create

> projects that will bring me to me desired outcome.

>

> Or maybe you mean drills like practicing the language patterns

> described in Words that Change Minds. You know the ones I'm

talking

> about... for influencing Away-from vs. toward-motivated people; or

> for influencing Internally/Externally focused prople; for

influencing

> Proactive/Reactive people. You mean those drills?

>

> Or maybe you mean using anchor stacking to blow away my daughter's

> math anxiety.

>

> Or maybe you mean using Doc's Inner Demon Destroyer to bring my

> wife's fear of being alone in the house when I'm away from a 9

down

> to a zero.

>

> If you mean those things, then I'm on it.

>

> I asked the question because I've been doing this stuff for way

less

> than a year, and as you pointed out the stuff works if you do it.

So

> now I'm doing it and I have an idea of a path that I need to

follow,

> so now it's time to recalibrate. Hence my questions.

>

> Thanks for your input.

>

> Ron Matthews

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ron

 

Some of the drills you mentioned

 

I don’t know

 

Was I arrogant?

 

Didn’t mean to be

 

Learning all the time

 

 

 

It’s amazing you learn and do so much

 

 

In less then a year

 

I learn huna since 1998

 

And being a member of Doc’s groups

 

And Vince group made me learn

 

And make a big jump

 

 

 

So

 

I am happy I learn much more

 

 

 

Thank you Ron

 

 

 

Orna

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc

 

Trying to figure out your

 

Answer

 

 

 

Orna

[Guest guest]

Hi doc

 

 

 

I do have a lot of s*****t

 

 

 

 

 

Orna

[Guest guest]

I've been away for a couple days, hence the late reply.

 

> I'm created a madman.

I'm not mad, just mildly annoyed. (Nyuk nyuk)

 

Actually, the reason for my original questions is that I feel like

I've entered the stage of conscious incompetence. If that's true,

then it's a good thing because it means that I'm making progress. But

I want to get to the level of conscious competence, so I still have a

long way to go.

 

Any suggestions of kicks in the backsid are appreciated, Doc. ;')

 

Ron Matthews

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001>

wrote:

>

>

> Oh Shit!

>

> I'm created a madman.

> An evil person that " gets shit done " .

> Orna, you are NEXT.

> Sincerely,;-)

>

[Guest guest]

Ron, have you tried Bandler's " Persuasion Engeneering " ?

 

I bought it because Jason Bedunah recommended it on the manifestation

list. It was actually related to " how to get the juice out of a

seminar " which I find funny because it's overtly about NLP and

selling,nothing blatant about seminar-attending/conducting or

reading, but I know I'm missing something...

 

Anyway, it must be ten times better if you can get hold of the DVDs...

It seems that the book is a transcript of the actual seminar. Among

many things, he does talk about the " location for things " though not

as Doc does, not as part of the energy model. It doesn't seem that he

was interested in energy at the time, there are messages in the MM-ES

archives about that.

 

BTW, honestly, I don't have the necessary background in NLP to fully

appreciate the book, but I had this eye-opening experience where I had

read about this exhilarating story on how Bandler cooks dogfood for

his teen-agers, but despite the laugh I had not given it much/any

thought... until I slept on it, and dreamt about it... with different

protagonists... under different circumstances...

 

By all means, read the book! I have also ordered the ones you

mentionned. I must have had written them down 10 times on

my " reading/buying list " but it took your message to actually press

the " PAY " button!

 

Thanks a lot,

 

Pierre