Every time I do the damn drills I fall asleep. What's wrong?

[Guest guest]

---<energyriverenergyrainbow> wrote:

> I have been study-ing and practising the Silva and D Eden

>materials for a while. Very pro-active stuff wich is FUN !!!

 

Good for you.

 

> I really enjoy working with it.

 

So, do it. You said " working with it " , but your post did not show

that, but showed something different, MUCH different!

 

> Since I do this - daily, last few months - my system fails ?

 

No it didn't fail.

 

So, what did it do?

 

It did what you taught it so well to do.

 

It relaxed, and your conscious mind went away.

 

And you did you much repetition of that relaxation, that you

unconsciously created an anchor for relaxation, UNSTEAD of an anchor

of CONSCIOUSLY GOING TO DEEP LEVELS OF MIND " WIDE AWAKE " !

 

Can you notice the differences?

 

> That is to say : My body is so relaxed it goes in dream and sleep

> mode automatically. Watching tele and bbbzzp, gone I am. Or

>bringing the kids to bed....bbzzp...gone again.

 

See what I mean?

 

You've accidentally used the conditioning cycles in place of

something much different than they were meant to be used for.

 

They were meant for the use of the KAHUNA MIND, where you can

trigger alpha and theta at will for a project you want to work on.

 

You, instead used those states for " passing out " . A normal process

of doing it wrong.

 

> It takes me 30 minutes up to 2 hours to get out of there.

Heartbeat,

> breathing, body function slow down dramatically.

> No energy excersise on D Edens DVD helps when I am so low in level.

 

That's because you NEED THE BRING BACK hypnotically FIRST.

 

THEN you need to get up, and do some physical drills that will

awaken the energy systems along with the physical body.

 

My special energy 2 count jumping jacks, 4 counts, and 8 counts do

this very well and in one minute.

 

Also, the Eden drills (the proper ones) WILL HELP and integrate what

you want done.

 

You are just doing the incorrect ones.

 

Sorry.

 

> That's weird without doing the level stuff. 3-2-1 LoL.

 

Again, when you have an anchor, the anchor will give you the state

without doing the state elicitation.

 

> Are these normal effects ? Is tehre a reason for it to happen ?

 

Yes, it's normal.

 

Yes, you did screw up.

 

Yes, it's easy to fix.

 

On the BRING BACK, be damn sure to change your internal tonals to

match the BEHAVIOR you desire.

 

....be sure to HAVE YOUR PHYSIOLOGY match the BEHAVIOR YOU DESIRE!

 

....be sure to SEE what you desire!

 

Then it will happen instaneously.

 

 

 

> Hope there is anyone in this group who can help me with this. It

> came a few weeks after doing the excersises daily and I could not

> find anything about this subject when I searched the message

> history.

> C.Everytime I do the damn drills I fall asleep. What's wrong?

[Guest guest]

Kewl, an answer !!!

 

I am Dutch, from the Netherlands and I just don't get everything.

Some more questions.

 

> So, do it. You said " working with it " , but your post did not show

> that, but showed something different, MUCH different!

 

Well, I see what you mean.

The Psychometrie techniques work very well.

Everything on the silva cd is very helpfull and usefull. And fun.

 

> > Since I do this - daily, last few months - my system fails ?

>

> No it didn't fail.

>

> So, what did it do?

>

> It did what you taught it so well to do.

>

> It relaxed, and your conscious mind went away.

 

I am concious, it is just my body that goes ''out''.

It feels asleep and relaxed. But not ''me'' and the only thing left

for me to do is do some more pschychometrie and some distancehealing

while I give my body time to wake up.

 

That's the usefull but boring part when I don't have to do healing

or Reiki or whatever. Then I just ''make'' my day.

 

> And you did you much repetition of that relaxation, that you

> unconsciously created an anchor for relaxation, UNSTEAD of an

anchor

> of CONSCIOUSLY GOING TO DEEP LEVELS OF MIND " WIDE AWAKE " !

 

Ah...ok.

....(thinking)..... Do I need a concious created anchor for

relaxation ?

....keep thinking....

 

 

> You've accidentally used the conditioning cycles in place of

> something much different than they were meant to be used for.

 

Here I am lost....completely.

 

I don't know what conditioning cycles are...

And I don't even know what other reason there is to do this.

I did and began to use it and the fun and joy part kept me going.

 

And it got me into trouble...

 

> They were meant for the use of the KAHUNA MIND, where you can

> trigger alpha and theta at will for a project you want to work on.

 

So...

I need a concious anchor created for relaxation in combination with

something I want to work on.

Like a task ? or a job ? or a...goal ?

 

> You, instead used those states for " passing out " . A normal process

> of doing it wrong.

 

Totally believe you !

 

> > breathing, body function slow down dramatically.

> > No energy excersise on D Edens DVD helps when I am so low in

level.

>

> That's because you NEED THE BRING BACK hypnotically FIRST.

 

?

 

> THEN you need to get up, and do some physical drills that will

> awaken the energy systems along with the physical body.

 

I am already up, so all else that I need is to do the right drills.

 

> You are just doing the incorrect ones.

>

> Sorry.

 

No, thank YOU.

I will have to trie and find the right ones then )

 

> Again, when you have an anchor, the anchor will give you the state

> without doing the state elicitation.

 

Lost me here again...So Sorry

 

Short :

 

1. I need an anchor.

2. I need a goal, lifes purpose or something ambitious.

3. I need the right drills.

 

Number 2 might be my biggest problem

 

I am happy, so why use these methods when a person is already happy ?

Except for my fun and joy drive... Be even more happy... !

 

> On the BRING BACK, be damn sure to change your internal tonals to

> match the BEHAVIOR you desire.

>

> ...be sure to HAVE YOUR PHYSIOLOGY match the BEHAVIOR YOU DESIRE!

>

> ...be sure to SEE what you desire!

>

> Then it will happen instaneously.

 

My english and vocabulaire is too short to get all of this.

At least for now... But there is alot that I can start work with.

 

I might seem a bit funny, but I really have no clue about all the

terms and words I see here.

My grandmother taught me EFT, but never named it like that.

 

She taught me some easy hypno tricks but that was used to play hide

and seek. Stuff like that...but I so DO want to learn

Please bear with me here, I will do my best to get it in.

 

Thanks, Carlijn.

[Guest guest]

Hi Carlijn,

 

You are from the Netherlands, hmm? Nice. I have a friend who moved to

The Hague years ago and has had a really nice career and life living

there (and traveling the world).

 

You mention that you have A Silva CD. Does that mean that you have

only one CD?

 

If so, that could be where what we are talking about and what you are

talking about differ.

 

The Silva trainings that I have studied are entire courses.

The " Silva Method Choose Success " course that I first studied has

twelve tapes, one with an introduction and eleven with conscious

Alpha or Theta mind state drills.

 

Dennis Higgins and Dr. Latourrette's " Silva Ultramind - Remote

Viewing and Remote Influencing " CD set likewise has many overt and

covert mental drills that all have a definite purpose and that all

add up to something much more than is initially perceived.

 

Is your CD in Dutch? Were there any more available? Just curious.

 

As for " Anchors " , try this website:

 

http://www.nlp-hypnosis.ws/nlp_anchoring.htm

 

That should get you started.

 

Enough for now...

 

And all the best,

 

-Mark

 

, " Carlijn

Christina " <energyriverenergyrainbow> wrote:

>

> Kewl, an answer !!!

>

> I am Dutch, from the Netherlands and I just don't get everything.

> Some more questions.

>

> > So, do it. You said " working with it " , but your post did not show

> > that, but showed something different, MUCH different!

>

> Well, I see what you mean.

> The Psychometrie techniques work very well.

> Everything on the silva cd is very helpfull and usefull. And fun.

>

> > > Since I do this - daily, last few months - my system fails ?

> >

> > No it didn't fail.

> >

> > So, what did it do?

> >

> > It did what you taught it so well to do.

> >

> > It relaxed, and your conscious mind went away.

>

> I am concious, it is just my body that goes ''out''.

> It feels asleep and relaxed. But not ''me'' and the only thing left

> for me to do is do some more pschychometrie and some

distancehealing

> while I give my body time to wake up.

>

> That's the usefull but boring part when I don't have to do healing

> or Reiki or whatever. Then I just ''make'' my day.

>

> > And you did you much repetition of that relaxation, that you

> > unconsciously created an anchor for relaxation, UNSTEAD of an

> anchor

> > of CONSCIOUSLY GOING TO DEEP LEVELS OF MIND " WIDE AWAKE " !

>

> Ah...ok.

> ...(thinking)..... Do I need a concious created anchor for

> relaxation ?

> ...keep thinking....

>

>

> > You've accidentally used the conditioning cycles in place of

> > something much different than they were meant to be used for.

>

> Here I am lost....completely.

>

> I don't know what conditioning cycles are...

> And I don't even know what other reason there is to do this.

> I did and began to use it and the fun and joy part kept me going.

>

> And it got me into trouble...

>

> > They were meant for the use of the KAHUNA MIND, where you can

> > trigger alpha and theta at will for a project you want to work on.

>

> So...

> I need a concious anchor created for relaxation in combination with

> something I want to work on.

> Like a task ? or a job ? or a...goal ?

>

> > You, instead used those states for " passing out " . A normal

process

> > of doing it wrong.

>

> Totally believe you !

>

> > > breathing, body function slow down dramatically.

> > > No energy excersise on D Edens DVD helps when I am so low in

> level.

> >

> > That's because you NEED THE BRING BACK hypnotically FIRST.

>

> ?

>

> > THEN you need to get up, and do some physical drills that will

> > awaken the energy systems along with the physical body.

>

> I am already up, so all else that I need is to do the right drills.

>

> > You are just doing the incorrect ones.

> >

> > Sorry.

>

> No, thank YOU.

> I will have to trie and find the right ones then )

>

> > Again, when you have an anchor, the anchor will give you the

state

> > without doing the state elicitation.

>

> Lost me here again...So Sorry

>

> Short :

>

> 1. I need an anchor.

> 2. I need a goal, lifes purpose or something ambitious.

> 3. I need the right drills.

>

> Number 2 might be my biggest problem

>

> I am happy, so why use these methods when a person is already

happy ?

> Except for my fun and joy drive... Be even more happy... !

>

> > On the BRING BACK, be damn sure to change your internal tonals to

> > match the BEHAVIOR you desire.

> >

> > ...be sure to HAVE YOUR PHYSIOLOGY match the BEHAVIOR YOU DESIRE!

> >

> > ...be sure to SEE what you desire!

> >

> > Then it will happen instaneously.

>

> My english and vocabulaire is too short to get all of this.

> At least for now... But there is alot that I can start work with.

>

> I might seem a bit funny, but I really have no clue about all the

> terms and words I see here.

> My grandmother taught me EFT, but never named it like that.

>

> She taught me some easy hypno tricks but that was used to play hide

> and seek. Stuff like that...but I so DO want to learn

> Please bear with me here, I will do my best to get it in.

>

> Thanks, Carlijn.

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, after reading that Anchoring website, I realized it wasn't

very clear.

 

You could try:

 

http://www.deep-trance.com/skill-model/anchoring.html

 

Or:

 

http://tinyurl.com/9fvx4

 

Or... You could go the Archives and

do a search for anchoring or anchors.

 

Or... do a search for " Neuro Lingustic Programming " and " Anchors " on

your favorite search engine.

 

Or... You could find out who Richard Bandler is and read some of his

books.

 

Or...?

 

All the best,

 

-Mark

 

, " Mark Holt "

<severian6@h...> wrote:

>

> Hi Carlijn,

 

 

> As for " Anchors " , try this website:

>

> http://www.nlp-hypnosis.ws/nlp_anchoring.htm

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

> You are from the Netherlands, hmm? Nice. I have a friend who moved

to

> The Hague years ago and has had a really nice career and life

 

The Hague is nice. I should find myself a nice career someday.

To use the drills and skills...

Might come in handy )

 

> You mention that you have A Silva CD. Does that mean that you have

> only one CD?

 

I have...let's see...

The Silva Mind Ultra ESP system. That is 1.

And...Developing and maintaing the Correct Attitude.

 

(Is that the one I need when I have a bring back ?)

 

Guidance from Higher Intelligence.

The Mental Video Technique.

Ok, there is more, but it is fun to have it on 1 cd.

 

Thinking about taking english classes before doing more of these

excersises...or get myself a nice hobby like gardening...

 

> The Silva trainings that I have studied are entire courses.

> The " Silva Method Choose Success " course that I first studied has

 

I can't find the one you mention here.

Is it somewhere on that Nightingale website ?

 

> Dennis Higgins and Dr. Latourrette's " Silva Ultramind - Remote

> Viewing and Remote Influencing " CD set likewise has many overt and

> covert mental drills that all have a definite purpose and that all

> add up to something much more than is initially perceived.

>

> Is your CD in Dutch? Were there any more available? Just curious.

 

Nothing. Just the soft new age versions.

Thanks for getting me started !!! Carlijn.