Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 bb_121 wrote: > Gary, > > After hearing so much about Hawkins on this site I finally got around to > doing a net search on him. > > The first good hit I got said Hawkins scale was "influence of > suggestion"...an "Idcompter action". > > Indeed, if you like someone they get a higher score...if you don't a > lower score. Yes, if you want to do that way. If that's all you wanted though, why bother doing the test in the first place? I can tell if I like someone or not without the use of a scale or energy testing someone's arm Pretty much how everyone else can. No magic there. > > David Hawkins is said to be a staunch conservative...so the President > gets a high score. > I don't know if that is the reason or not... as I said, I would have to confirm it for myself. Do you understand what my point was about testing from a neutral state? > > They also went on to say that in double blind tests the Hawkins scale > (an offspring of Kinesiology) was ineffective. > Done by whom? Are they really qualified, or do they 'think'' they are qualified? Is it possible there is a difference? What was the procedure used? Did they utilize any sort of method to remain neutral throughout the testing? Or did they perform the testing using their own filters? What filters did they use? Could those filters have influenced the results? I remember a story that Doc told, and I thought it was in "Explore your Psyhic World" by the Worrall's, but it wasn't in that book (that I could see). I probably have the book it is in somewhere around here... Anyway, basic story goes that Olga Worrall had done some experiments w/ various people (scientists, doctors). One case was when Ogla was lighting up some type of chamber w/ swirling light from something like 900 miles away, just moving her hands around what she visualized as the chamber and imagining it charging, talking w/ the experimenters over the phone. They would cue her, she would do it, and it happened. They would tell her stop, she would stop, then it would stop. The guys performing the experiment then called in a colleague, who was skeptical of it even being possible, to come in and observe. The experiment would NOT work! Olga could not understand what was happening, she knew something was stopping her. As soon as he left... it would work just like it had before. My whole premise of the previous post was about performing the test while remaining in a neutral state to get the objective results. If you have no specific method of doing this, then you probably are NOT remaining neutral. I know there is one method that is in the back posts... many, many times. In fact, there is a another thread going on RIGHT NOW about it on this list. The test CAN be influenced, especially by the conscious mind. At that point, you are testing for something different. If you want valid results, you MUST have a valid procedure, the correct tools used in a correct manner to get the intended result. Valid to whom? Valid on what level? For example... I could mow your lawn w/ 5 gallons of gasoline and a match. Or I could take that same 5 gallons and fill up your damn lawn mower, turn it on...etc. Will both methods work to shorten the grass? Yes, they will both work. Are they both valid methods to get the results you want, though? What result do you intend to get? To attempt to validate your opinions and/or your beliefs... or to get an answer from a 'higher power', whatever that may be. Gary Graves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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