Chronique Fatigue Syndrom

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

Some people here got some helpfull info on how the improve the

situation of people with the Chronique Fatigue Syndrom? I'm guessing

working out a bit + doing some energy routines to increase the immune

system + taking supplements + some EFT for removing some mental

problems could be part of the solution? Any specific is really welcome.

[Guest guest]

There are many knowledgeable people on this list and I am not an expert on

energy therapies but I thought I should give my opinion on this as I have

done some work on this problem.After some research and thinking I came to

the point of thinking that this problem is something similar to post

traumatic stress disorder.There is specific trauma stored in brain at PTSD

whereas in CFS it is the emotion. I believe trauma release is needed. Unless

the original trauma/traumas released other approaches may help only

temporarily.

Best wishes.

Nil

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" nosferatu66623 " <mindexplo

 

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:19 PM

Chronique Fatigue Syndrom

 

 

> Hi,

>

> Some people here got some helpfull info on how the improve the

> situation of people with the Chronique Fatigue Syndrom? I'm guessing

> working out a bit + doing some energy routines to increase the immune

> system + taking supplements + some EFT for removing some mental

> problems could be part of the solution? Any specific is really welcome.

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

>I believe trauma release is needed. Unless

the original trauma/traumas released other approaches may help only

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The Qi Gong approach is that all mental constructs [traumas] and/or

emotions result in a somatic reaction [a muscle clenches] and until that

clench is discharged the Chi blocks at that point and the energy flow stops.

The release can be achieved by Rolfing, Deep muscle massage , or, in the

Yoga and QGong traditions, by stretching and holding it open long enough to

release and to prevent a rebound clench. Then one seeks to rest the muscle

in the unclenched, unsretched center, open, relaxed and aware. This is a

state referred to as, " Sung. "

Only when you are Sung can you accumulate chi.

And if you continue to run the mental tape loop that triggers the somatic

reaction, the problem will return.

Hence mindfulness is required.

 

Sung:)

rusty

 

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yildiz

 

Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:06 PM

Re: Chronique Fatigue Syndrom

 

 

There are many knowledgeable people on this list and I am not an expert on

energy therapies but I thought I should give my opinion on this as I have

done some work on this problem.After some research and thinking I came to

the point of thinking that this problem is something similar to post

traumatic stress disorder.There is specific trauma stored in brain at PTSD

whereas in CFS it is the emotion. I believe trauma release is needed. Unless

the original trauma/traumas released other approaches may help only

temporarily.

Best wishes.

Nil

-

" nosferatu66623 " <mindexplo

 

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:19 PM

Chronique Fatigue Syndrom

 

 

> Hi,

>

> Some people here got some helpfull info on how the improve the

> situation of people with the Chronique Fatigue Syndrom? I'm guessing

> working out a bit + doing some energy routines to increase the immune

> system + taking supplements + some EFT for removing some mental

> problems could be part of the solution? Any specific is really welcome.

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you Rusty,

This was very helpful.

Sung:)

Nil

 

> The Qi Gong approach is that all mental constructs [traumas] and/or

> emotions result in a somatic reaction [a muscle clenches] and until that

> clench is discharged the Chi blocks at that point and the energy flow

> stops.

> The release can be achieved by Rolfing, Deep muscle massage , or, in the

>

> Sung:)

> rusty

>

[Guest guest]

, lwinmorgan

<lwinmorgan wrote:

>

> >I believe trauma release is needed. Unless

> the original trauma/traumas released other approaches may help only

> -

> The Qi Gong approach is that all mental constructs [traumas]

and/or

> emotions result in a somatic reaction [a muscle clenches] and

until that

> clench is discharged the Chi blocks at that point and the energy

flow stops.

> The release can be achieved by Rolfing, Deep muscle massage , or,

in the

> Yoga and QGong traditions, by stretching and holding it open long

enough to

> release and to prevent a rebound clench. Then one seeks to rest

the muscle

> in the unclenched, unsretched center, open, relaxed and aware.

This is a

> state referred to as, " Sung. "

> Only when you are Sung can you accumulate chi.

> And if you continue to run the mental tape loop that triggers the

somatic

> reaction, the problem will return.

> Hence mindfulness is required.

>

> Sung:)

> rusty

 

So, if you were able to describe sung in appropiate behavior,

sequence and submodalities, how would you do it?

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " yildiz "

<yildiz22 wrote:

>

> Thank you Rusty,

> This was very helpful.

> Sung:)

> Nil

>

> > The Qi Gong approach is that all mental constructs [traumas]

and/or

> > emotions result in a somatic reaction [a muscle clenches] and

until that

> > clench is discharged the Chi blocks at that point and the energy

flow

> > stops.

> > The release can be achieved by Rolfing, Deep muscle massage ,

or, in the

> >

> > Sung:)

> > rusty

 

Really?

 

Nil, you must be way smarter than I am.

 

I still don't get most of what Rusty posts, even though I do enjoy

reading his posts and attempting to " grasp " by the tail that elusive

understanding.

 

 

[Guest guest]

>So, if you were able to describe sung in appropiate behavior, sequence and submodalities, how would you do it?

 

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"Qi Gong cannot be described in words. The learning is in the doing."

~ Master of the 5 excellences, Professor Cheng man Ch'ing.

 

So If I could, How would I?

 

Do The damn drills.

 

Start with Donna's, "lowering the flame" exercise and when you have sunk the flame from the upper two warmers to the fire box where it belongs, the dan tien, you are ready for Drill One.

 

Stand relaxed and balanced and awarness in the Kinesthic modality.

 

Sequence these Subs;

Aware of the state of relaxation of the muscles;

Aware of non deliberate automatic breathing;

Aware of pulse beat.

 

Anchored in these three subs observe the chi enter the dan tien with each breath and expand and cirulate thought all RELAXED channels and radiate into the field.

Do this for 50 heart beats and the answer will begin to come to you.

 

With each drill more answers will come.

 

"The chief cause of failure is lack of perserverence".

~ Cheng man Ch'ing

 

Now, DO THE DRILL

 

rusty

 

 

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kahunamaker

Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:09 PM

Re: Chronique Fatigue Syndrom

, lwinmorgan <lwinmorgan wrote:>> >I believe trauma release is needed. Unless> the original trauma/traumas released other approaches may help only> -> The Qi Gong approach is that all mental constructs [traumas] and/or > emotions result in a somatic reaction [a muscle clenches] and until that > clench is discharged the Chi blocks at that point and the energy flow stops.> The release can be achieved by Rolfing, Deep muscle massage , or, in the > Yoga and QGong traditions, by stretching and holding it open long enough to > release and to prevent a rebound clench. Then one seeks to rest the muscle > in the unclenched, unsretched center, open, relaxed and aware. This is a > state referred to as, "Sung."> Only when you are Sung can you accumulate chi.> And if you continue to run the mental tape loop that triggers the somatic > reaction, the problem will return.> Hence mindfulness is required.> > Sung:)> rustySo, if you were able to describe sung in appropiate behavior, sequence and submodalities, how would you do it?