This is the most unintelligible gabberwocky I've ever read

[Guest guest]

--- David Torres <describingindescribable wrote:

>

> With a increased keen wit mind, in anything and everything that

>moves, I memorize all their is encounter, been under a great " White

>umbrella of light " I can't be distort, as the expand and grows of

>huna never stops.

 

This is the most unintelligible gabberwocky I've ever read.

 

Does this person have trouble with english? Is he bi-polar, Or is this

a form of the secret language of huna?

 

Sandy

[Guest guest]

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " sandygodheart " <sandygodheart

wrote:

>

> --- David Torres <describingindescribable@> wrote:

> >

> > With a increased keen wit mind, in anything and everything that

> >moves, I memorize all their is encounter, been under a

great " White

> >umbrella of light " I can't be distort, as the expand and grows of

> >huna never stops.

>

> This is the most unintelligible gabberwocky I've ever read.

>

> Does this person have trouble with english? Is he bi-polar, Or is

this

> a form of the secret language of huna?

>

> Sandy

 

Hell if I know Sandy.

 

Let me see if I can clear up his " ingish " a bit...

 

" With an increasingly keen witted mind, in anything and everything

that moves, I memorize all there is to be encountered, being under a

great " white umbrella of light " I can't be distorted, as the

expansion and growth of Huna never stops. "

 

> " With an increasingly keen witted mind...

 

This part " might " mean " as I develop my calibration skills in the

VAKOG...

 

>in anything and everything that moves,

 

I guess he means if he can " see " it move than he can calibrate it.

 

>I memorize all there is to be encountered...

 

No clue. Especially since we are unconsciously aware of so many bits

of information that there is virtually NO WAY to segment them.

 

>being under a great " white umbrella of light " ...

 

I guess he's refering to the wisdom of the aumakua. Unfortunately,

he has expressed already that his conscious mind is rather lacking

in awareness, so any aumakua thoughts must pass through his

subconscious mind before they hit his conscious mind, which is not

that conscious.

 

>I can't be distorted...

 

Buddy, you ARE distorted, or maybe just HIGH!

 

>as the expansion and growth of Huna never stops. "

 

Hummmmm? A big problem here. First define Huna.

 

Then define expansion.

 

Then define growth.

 

I mean, I can see a big fat hawaiian growing inches daily, and

adding on the pounds minute by minute, and I hope that's not what

Mr. Torres meant.

 

Then again I've no clue what he meant.

 

Does anyone here, without hallucinating?

 

How about you Lori?

 

Vince? Greg? Calvin? Helen?

 

 

Ps. It really sounds to me like he thinks that HE'S the personification of Huna,

since he identifies himself with the last phrase. Delusions of grandeur.

[Guest guest]

--- kahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote:

 

> Then again I've no clue what he meant.

>

> Does anyone here, without hallucinating?

>

> How about you Lori?

>

> Vince? Greg? Calvin? Helen?

 

Man, I gave up trying last year.

 

--Vince

 

http://huna-ohana.com

 

Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

[Guest guest]

Too late...already getting flashbacks from last July...

 

Lori

 

 

, " kahunamaker "

<kahunamaker wrote:

>

>

> Then again I've no clue what he meant.

>

> Does anyone here, without hallucinating?

>

> How about you Lori?

>

> Vince? Greg? Calvin? Helen?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey - since I'm writing from 35000 ft --- why not be one with the

universe?

 

Helen

>

>

>> I can't be distorted...

>

> Buddy, you ARE distorted, or maybe just HIGH!

>

>> as the expansion and growth of Huna never stops. "

>

> Hummmmm? A big problem here. First define Huna.

>

> Then define expansion.

>

> Then define growth.

>

> I mean, I can see a big fat hawaiian growing inches daily, and

> adding on the pounds minute by minute, and I hope that's not what

> Mr. Torres meant.

>

> Then again I've no clue what he meant.

>

> Does anyone here, without hallucinating?

>

> How about you Lori?

>

> Vince? Greg? Calvin? Helen?

>

>

> Ps. It really sounds to me like he thinks that HE'S the

> personification of Huna, since he identifies himself with the last

> phrase. Delusions of grandeur.

[Guest guest]

--- Alex <alex56ch wrote:

 

> Well Sandy, you are amazing me...

 

Thank you, though from your following context, you really meant to

use a different, more negative word, didn't you?

 

> what on earth made you jump so much on this post? is

> it your own insecurity?

 

Well Alex, when someone dumps something brown on your plate and

calls it pudding, but it sure smells like warm fresh caca, I'm sure

going to jump away from it, and warn my friends that daa veed

doesn't know the difference between caca and pudding.

 

No matter how sweet and nice his intentions are, it is still caca,

not pudding.

 

No matter how hungry you are, once you notice the smell, you won't

eat it.

 

> I see no offense in an umbrella of light (perceptions

> of whatever we feel or " see " varies a lot depending on

> our early conditioning)

 

Well Alex, maybe you want to learn how to read and separate the caca

from the tortillas. There is a big difference. That's not a chili

burger he's attempting to feed you fellows.

 

But, suuuueeee suuuuueee, go ahead and chow it down if you need to

be nice. daa veed will sure appreciate the attention.

 

> Have you gone trough Vince's cd's?

 

Oh goodie, goodie.

 

You are now switching the topic by pulling in an actual authority,

Vince, trained by another authority, instead of someone that

mistakes caca for pudding.

 

Sorry Alex, a very naive, unfair comparison.

 

And it is a fraudulent comparison.

 

And, yes, I've got them. Everyone should get them. So what's that

got to do with daa veed's pudding?

 

Have you asked daa veed if he's got them?

 

You sound like a democrat, comparing apples to woodchips.

 

Are you a first baptist, attempting to install shame, guilt and

remorse?

 

>You'll encounter a

> drill " on level " where you'll find yourself inside a

> ball of light....expanding it........

 

Sorry Alex, that's not what daa veed said. He is very confused about

the 3 minds, and his confusion has spread to you.

 

> And what I do not really understand........

 

Actually you do understand.

 

You just don't like it.

 

You'd rather defend some person who spouts " foolish " and very

confusing thoughts, rather than face the fact that it's nonsense,

and could be hurting someone who wants to learn real Huna.

 

His version is not close to anyone's Huna that I know, and I know a

lot of them.

 

> you're hitting on a person, criticising his language

> skills and his way to try to explain himself - rather

> than trying to understand and maybe giving him

> positive advise........

 

I leave that up to you Alex and people like you. I'm sure you can

hug him to your breast and console him. Maybe pat him on the back

and stroke his hair? Coo coo coo.

 

> if one takes word for him, you pinpoint on that person

> again.........

 

Haleluya, praise the lord, as I raise up my hands to the chapel.

 

> astonishing.........

 

Yes, your attitude is astonishing, but I've seen others just like

you mired in the same mess of 'feel bad' for others, instead of

tough love and letting them learn how to do it for themselves.

 

Feeling bad for others is not Huna.

 

Having compassion for others is Huna.

 

Giving others who earn it proper instruction and skills in Huna is a

part of the process of training.

 

Giving skills to those that don't want Huna is brainwashing.

 

Giving incorrect data to people for ego gratification is one of the

more horrible crimes that one person can do to another.

 

Why are you allowing that Alex?

 

> if you're such an expert in huna, well why not show

> him the way?...

 

This is real funny.

 

You think that I didn't show him the way?

 

Did you notice that my first post politely kicked him in the butt,

and he actually did much better on his second post?

 

Not yet, hunnnn? Maybe you'll notice it now, or maybe next week?

 

Well, maybe by daa veed's 3rd post he'll actually go back to Rodman,

or Glover, or Long, or Berney, or Wingo, or Latourette, or Malo, or

Pulo, or Simeona, or L. M. Jones and actually give out pudding

instead of caca.

 

That way all of us could enjoy a nutritional and pleasant meal.

 

> why not tell him what drills you're referring to?.....

 

I've met him before. He don't listen too good.

 

> why not lift him up, rather than put him down?......

 

What makes you think that it didn't lift him up? Your values? Your

beliefs? Your feelings of right and wrong?

 

> that is what I perceive to be my huna way

> maybe I'm wrong?

 

Nope.

 

You are right, for you.

 

And you are wrong for me.

 

And Huna is an individual experience.

 

No one else can pull anyone else up. If you want up you need to

learn how to do it for yourself.

 

That means you need an adequate roadmap, and a vehicle to ride,

towards your chosen destination.

 

And, we are all learning, aren't we Alex?

 

You know I'm right. You just don't like my attitude.

 

Hope you get over it. Actually I don't care.

 

Hugs and kisses

Sandy

 

> Alex

>

[Guest guest]

--- LazarusRH wrote:

 

> I normally do not respond to other's flame or even flames directed

>toward myself,

 

Hello Calvin,

 

I bet this is going to be fun for both of us.

 

Good for you for responding to my post.

 

Please note it was not and is still not a flame, but something

totally different, to those that have the eyes to see, the ears to

hear, and the gut feelings to notice.

 

>but this hit me before my first cup of coffee and hit a bad nerve.

 

Well maybe you'd better drink that first cup of coffee before

responding. It wakes you up. It might keep you from making irroneous

decisions.

 

> appears to me that Sandy is trying to get Alex to fit in her box,

>maybe the second portion of the Identity trap as mentioned by >

>Harry Brown in " How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World "

 

Well Calvin, that reads as " the assumption that others will do

things in the way that you would " (page 390).

 

So, what's your point? Are you saying that we should ooh and aah a

very crappy post just because someone wrote it?

 

Gosh I hope not.

 

> > >Well Sandy, you are amazing me...

 

> >Thank you, though from your following context, you really meant

to

> >use a different, more negative word, didn't you?

 

> Must be nice to be able to read minds this well. Doc La Tourrette

>says Most >people have 80% success with remote viewing. Yes, I am

>citing an >authority.

 

Yes Calvin, you are. And you are quoting from the same authority

that I quoted from when I did explain how screwed up daa veed was.

 

Good for you.

 

Don't you think it's nice Calvin that we are both quoting the same

authority?

 

And did you notice that Teresa also noticed I quoted Doc latourette?

 

Did you read the rest of the post and notice that I was correct

about the 3 minds and the usuage of the 3 minds?

 

Or were you into a little 'pity party' with daa veed and alex and

you missed the emeralds and gold nuggets while you were sniffing the

crap?

 

> >Well Alex, when someone dumps something brown on your plate and

> >calls it pudding, but it sure smells like warm fresh caca, I'm

sure

> >going to jump away from it, and warn my friends that daa veed

> >doesn't know the difference between caca and pudding.

 

> If the rest of the letter is a flame, why didn't you say " SHIT "

since from

> my " remote viewing " that is what you wanted to say.

 

Good for you Calvin.

 

Then following your own supreme wisdom, your own intuitive process,

than you now know that there was no flame!

 

And, since you remoted viewed the word " SHIT " , let's be crude and

replace caca with " SHIT " , since, thank you, it does fit much better.

 

I appreciate the man whos not afraid to say the word " SHIT " .

 

It just makes my heart glow pink with love.

 

> >Well Alex, maybe you want to learn how to read and separate the

> >caca > >from the tortillas. There is a big difference. That's

> >not a chili > >burger he's attempting to feed you fellows.

 

> I personally did not understand what he was saying and am sure

>that if any more letters that were incomprehensible to the average

>or not so average reader, they would have been screened. Or not.

 

That's right Calvin, poor daa veed was spouting gabberwocky and you

agree with me!

 

So why are you irritated?

 

> >I personally chose to ignore it

> >like most things that bother and irritate me.

> >Changing other people is like teaching a pig to dance, wastes

> >your time and irritates the pig.

 

Good quote Calvin.

 

Those are the exact words that Dr. latourette uses.

 

Unfortunately daa veed was not just talking one on one to you or to

me. He was spouting diarrhea to the group under the disquise of

aumakua rantings. That was pointed out. Then the correct workings of

the 3 minds were explained in easily understood chunks. Nothing

more, nothing less.

 

> >And, yes, I've got them. Everyone should get them. So what's

> >that got to do with daa veed's " SHIT " pudding?

 

> I think, something that YOU cannot change anymore than YOU or

anyone else

> can change the way that I feel, that Alex has a valid point in the

Vince's DVDs

> where he actually mentions love and mentions the Huna creed that

MFL (yes,

> another authority) who mentions living a harmless, helpful life.

 

So, Calvin, helping someone in a different way than you believe is

right, is wrong? Is evil?

 

Maybe you better go back and read " Freedom in an Unfree World " ,

starting with the first sentence.

 

Let me re-read it to you, " FREEDOM is the opportunity to live your

life as YOU want to live it! "

 

And quoting Dr. latourette, " it's living your life with you

controlling your own 4 powers. Two of those powers are internal, and

two of those powers are external " .

 

And they are YOUR powers.

 

Remember?

 

> >Have you asked daa veed if he's got them?

> >You sound like a democrat, comparing apples to woodchips.

> >Are you a first baptist, attempting to install shame, guilt and

> >remorse?

 

> Not sure where you got all these from, just name calling and

accusations,

> not a true form of logic or confrontation.

 

So, what's your point? Number 1, I did not name call, I did ask

questions.

 

Notice the question mark after each sentence. It does have a valid

reason for being there.

 

> I am personally neither and do not

> ascribe to their beliefs, but that is my own personal belief

system. (i.e.,

> Map of the World and as we have been told by Bandler and Grinder,

yes more

> authorities, the map is not the territory)

 

Think a bit bigger Calvin when you quote either Bandler or Grinder.

 

Notice that the map is not the territory, BUT it is a way to cover

the territory.

 

Bad map, you can't get to where you are wanting to go.

So, using your own logic, but a step higher, now daa veed has really

screwed up because his map in invalid, and no one, not even him can

get to where he thinks he wants to go because it's wrong.

 

> >Sorry Alex, that's not what daa veed said. He is very confused

about

> >the 3 minds, and his confusion has spread to you.

 

> Yes, the original poster is confused, or as I thought, high,

 

Goody goody Calvin, you actually state that daa veed is " confused " ,

or worse yet, " high " , but you condemn me because I pointed that out,

and defend him because of???

 

....now, Calvin, since you agree with me totally, why the defense

of " PURE SHIT " ?

 

> but this is a learning platform

 

Well Calvin, there are certain presuppositions of what you just

stated, " learning platform " ...

 

So, what did we learn from daa veed's " SHIT " ?

 

NOTHING!

 

At least nothing until I pointed it out and we got this rather neat

discussion going, right?

 

> or rather that is my conception of this group. I no longer

> know everything. In fact, the more that I learn, the less I

know, until

> finally I will know nothing.

 

So now you can't even tie your shoe, or wipe your butt? Notice that

is a question Calvin and is not an accusation.

 

Did I just point out the ridiculousness of your above statement.

 

Actually Calvin, the more you study about what you want to study,

the more that you notice there is more to study.

 

That study, that achieved knowledge does NOT diminish what you know,

it just enlarges the parameters of what to know.

 

So, in the case of Huna the worse thing that Max Freedom Long did

was to state that there were no secrets.

 

Because there are secrets. A dog cannot read a book. He just hasn't

the tools to do so. So what we do is magic and godlike to a dog.

What Bandler does with hypnosis is godlike to a farm boy, if the

farm boy even notices.

 

There are many different evolved levels of achievement. There are

many different levels of secrecy.

 

And, Max Freedom Long, when he pointed out that there were no

secrets, was not dumbing down anything.

 

What he was refering to was the fact that he had developed ways,

through research, experimentation and study, to do some of the

secret skills of the kahuna.

 

If I confuse you at all, that means that you have not yet read, " The

Secret Science at Work " , or if you have read it, you have deleted it

or not understood it. So, just for a quickee, go back and re-read

pages ix-xiii.

 

> > >And what I do not really understand........

>

> >Actually you do understand.

>

> >You just don't like it.

>

> >You'd rather defend some person who spouts " foolish " and very

> >confusing thoughts, rather than face the fact that it's nonsense,

> >and could be hurting someone who wants to learn real Huna.

> >Once again, Remote Viewing so powerful that you really know what

someone thinks.

> >Haleluya, praise the lord, as I raise up my hands to the chapel.

 

> Not sure where this came from, I lost the stream of thought on

this one.

> Maybe another cup of coffee will help. Couldn't be more flaming

and insults, > could it?

 

Not from me. I'm a good person.

 

But others, so mired in their own guilt that they feel they must

defend the hopeless mentally challenged.

 

> >Giving skills to those that don't want Huna is brainwashing,

 

> You cannot give a skill. It has to be learned, either by trial

and error or

> by studying with someone who has more knowledge or whom you feel

has more

> knowledge and wants to share, such as Doctor La Tourette or Rev.

Wingo.

 

So you agree with me?

 

Then why the bitching?

 

> >Giving incorrect data to people for ego gratification is one of

the

> >more horrible crimes that one person can do to another.

 

> Missed this line of thought totally..I need more coffee.

 

They you better remote view daa veed.

 

> >You think that I didn't show him the way?

 

> No.

 

> >Did you notice that my first post politely kicked him in the

butt,

> >and he actually did much better on his second post?

> >Not yet, hunnnn? Maybe you'll notice it now, or maybe next week?

 

> Not all people learn well with negative feedback, some learn

better with

> positive feedback. Anthony Robbins, someone that I consider an

authority as

> does Doctor La Tourrette who cited him numerous time in his

doctorial thesis.

 

So you are deleting what Robbins and latourette really say?

 

Go to page 255 of " Unlimited Power " and start with the words, " The

first metaprogram involves moving toward something or moving away.

All human behavior revolves around the urge to gain pleasure or

avoid pain... "

 

Calvin, do not quote resources unless you know those resources,

because some of us actually have studied them.

 

> >Well, maybe by daa veed's 3rd post he'll actually go back to

Rodman,

> >or Glover, or Long, or Berney, or Wingo, or Latourette, or Malo,

or

> >Pulo, or Simeona, or L. M. Jones and actually give out pudding

> >instead of caca.

 

> Why didn't you mention this to the original poster? I don't

recall that you

> did, although I could be mistaken on this. Would (or rather

could) have

> been more helpful than a kick in the butt.

 

For what purpose?

 

Like I stated before daa veed is a bit hard of hearing.

 

So, if the post was not only for daa veed, then who else might it be

for?

 

Maybe for the readers of this group?

 

Maybe for those that are searching for valid, workable Huna?

 

> >I've met him before. He don't listen too good.

 

> Now sounds like a personal observation, the first thing that would

explain

> the WHOLE letter. Logically, rather than a flame of Alex, in MY

>logic, it would have been better to lead with this.

 

Again, look at the sequencing of the posts, and the actually replies

to the group. Notice that there is a huge possibility that these

posts have never been for daa veed, but for another purpose?

 

> >That means you need an adequate roadmap, and a vehicle to ride,

> >towards your chosen destination.

 

> How do you KNOW that who ever this was directed at, either Alex or

the

> original poster does not have a map and a adequate vehicle? Seems

like a lot of

> supposition, in my OPINION..see above for definition.

 

Nope Calvin,

 

You are now just whistling in the wind. You know it. I know it. And

all the readers know it. You like to defend the weak. An admirable

trait, but no one needs defending.

 

Now this might be very important. daa veed does not think of himself

weak, and does think of himself very superior. That's why, in his

post he equated himself with the aumakua. Delusions of grandure.

You've met him Calvin. Be honest. Is he an aumakua. Remember the

ladies sweetie pie attempted to " hit-on " at the last convention?

 

> >And, we are all learning, aren't we Alex?

 

> I didn't see any learning or teaching in this post.

 

That's your problem Calvin. You were reading it from the viewpoint

of righteous indignation, and not from the mindset of " what can I

learn from this post? " " What is Sandy actually saying, if it were

something different than the flame I believe it is? "

 

> Hope you get over it. Actually I don't care.

> Hugs and kisses, Sandy

 

> Kind of an insult, like kissing someone after you rape them.

 

Gosh Calvin.

 

I wouldn't know. I've never raped anyone. And I've never been raped.

 

Have you raped someone? Have you been raped by someone?

 

If you have, then your metaphor could very weakly be semi-accurate.

If you haven't then you've made a very weak attempt at an negative

hypnotic installation.

 

Sweet Sandy

ps. I really love this list. People are so sweet and intelligent.

Just nice people to talk with. Chow, mis amigos.

> Calvin Poole

[Guest guest]

-

Pet Troll

 

Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:08 PM

Re: Re: This is the most

unintelligible gabberwocky I've ever read

 

 

these are my two new bird with names---not all of them get names--and first they

get silly name and then real one----mama and papa kicked em outta of the nest

today---you two remind me of them

 

 

 

 

 

please excuse the language but that's their names

 

much love

[Guest guest]

, " Rev. James

Vinson Wingo, DD " <kahunaviking wrote:

>

> --- kahunamaker <kahunamaker wrote:

>

> > Then again I've no clue what he meant.

> >

> > Does anyone here, without hallucinating?

> >

> > How about you Lori?

> >

> > Vince? Greg? Calvin? Helen?

>

> Man, I gave up trying last year.

>

> --Vince

>

> http://huna-ohana.com

 

I've met the guy, and I don't like him.

 

In fact he once attempted to sign up for one of my seminars, and at

the last minute, withdrew.

 

He's been banned from them ever since.

 

I don't waste time nor energy on want-ta-bees.

 

In fact, even being in the same room with his is foul.

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " darthon4 "

<darthon4 wrote:

>

> Too late...already getting flashbacks from last July...

>

> Lori

 

Yep,

 

If I remember right he wanted to be " real friendly " with some of the

ladies.

 

Do you know any of them?

 

Some did complain to me.

 

I guess he's just a friendly guy;-)

 

 

 

> > Then again I've no clue what he meant.

> >

> > Does anyone here, without hallucinating?

> >

> > How about you Lori?

> >

> > Vince? Greg? Calvin? Helen?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, Helen

Driscoll <helen wrote:

>

> Hey - since I'm writing from 35000 ft --- why not be one with the

> universe?

>

> Helen

 

Hi Helen,

 

How in hell do you send emails at 35,000 feet?

 

 

 

> > Then again I've no clue what he meant.

> >

> > Does anyone here, without hallucinating?

> >

> > How about you Lori?

> >

> > Vince? Greg? Calvin? Helen?

> >

> >

> > Ps. It really sounds to me like he thinks that HE'S the

> > personification of Huna, since he identifies himself with the

last

> > phrase. Delusions of grandeur.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy, Calvin,

 

I'm rolling on the floor, clutching my sides, about ready to pee my

pants with laughter.

 

Thank you BOTH for a real pleasant read.

 

Sometimes I wonder if I should analize what BOTH of you guys and

gals are doing linguistically.

 

It's wonderful, the imbedded hypnotic commands.

 

Group?

 

Anyone want to decode it?

 

 

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " sandygodheart " <sandygodheart

wrote:

>

> --- LazarusRH@ wrote:

>

> > I normally do not respond to other's flame or even flames

directed

> >toward myself,

>

> Hello Calvin,

>

> I bet this is going to be fun for both of us.

>

> Good for you for responding to my post.

>

> Please note it was not and is still not a flame, but something

> totally different, to those that have the eyes to see, the ears to

> hear, and the gut feelings to notice.

>

> >but this hit me before my first cup of coffee and hit a bad

nerve.

>

> Well maybe you'd better drink that first cup of coffee before

> responding. It wakes you up. It might keep you from making

irroneous

> decisions.

>

> > appears to me that Sandy is trying to get Alex to fit in her

box,

> >maybe the second portion of the Identity trap as mentioned by >

> >Harry Brown in " How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World "

>

> Well Calvin, that reads as " the assumption that others will do

> things in the way that you would " (page 390).

>

> So, what's your point? Are you saying that we should ooh and aah a

> very crappy post just because someone wrote it?

>

> Gosh I hope not.

>

> > > >Well Sandy, you are amazing me...

>

> > >Thank you, though from your following context, you really

meant

> to

> > >use a different, more negative word, didn't you?

>

> > Must be nice to be able to read minds this well. Doc La

Tourrette

> >says Most >people have 80% success with remote viewing. Yes, I

am

> >citing an >authority.

>

> Yes Calvin, you are. And you are quoting from the same authority

> that I quoted from when I did explain how screwed up daa veed was.

>

> Good for you.

>

> Don't you think it's nice Calvin that we are both quoting the same

> authority?

>

> And did you notice that Teresa also noticed I quoted Doc

latourette?

>

> Did you read the rest of the post and notice that I was correct

> about the 3 minds and the usuage of the 3 minds?

>

> Or were you into a little 'pity party' with daa veed and alex and

> you missed the emeralds and gold nuggets while you were sniffing

the

> crap?

>

> > >Well Alex, when someone dumps something brown on your plate

and

> > >calls it pudding, but it sure smells like warm fresh caca, I'm

> sure

> > >going to jump away from it, and warn my friends that daa veed

> > >doesn't know the difference between caca and pudding.

>

> > If the rest of the letter is a flame, why didn't you say " SHIT "

> since from

> > my " remote viewing " that is what you wanted to say.

>

> Good for you Calvin.

>

> Then following your own supreme wisdom, your own intuitive

process,

> than you now know that there was no flame!

>

> And, since you remoted viewed the word " SHIT " , let's be crude and

> replace caca with " SHIT " , since, thank you, it does fit much

better.

>

> I appreciate the man whos not afraid to say the word " SHIT " .

>

> It just makes my heart glow pink with love.

>

> > >Well Alex, maybe you want to learn how to read and separate

the

> > >caca > >from the tortillas. There is a big difference. That's

> > >not a chili > >burger he's attempting to feed you fellows.

>

> > I personally did not understand what he was saying and am sure

> >that if any more letters that were incomprehensible to the

average

> >or not so average reader, they would have been screened. Or not.

>

> That's right Calvin, poor daa veed was spouting gabberwocky and

you

> agree with me!

>

> So why are you irritated?

>

> > >I personally chose to ignore it

> > >like most things that bother and irritate me.

> > >Changing other people is like teaching a pig to dance, wastes

> > >your time and irritates the pig.

>

> Good quote Calvin.

>

> Those are the exact words that Dr. latourette uses.

>

> Unfortunately daa veed was not just talking one on one to you or

to

> me. He was spouting diarrhea to the group under the disquise of

> aumakua rantings. That was pointed out. Then the correct workings

of

> the 3 minds were explained in easily understood chunks. Nothing

> more, nothing less.

>

> > >And, yes, I've got them. Everyone should get them. So what's

> > >that got to do with daa veed's " SHIT " pudding?

>

> > I think, something that YOU cannot change anymore than YOU or

> anyone else

> > can change the way that I feel, that Alex has a valid point in

the

> Vince's DVDs

> > where he actually mentions love and mentions the Huna creed that

> MFL (yes,

> > another authority) who mentions living a harmless, helpful life.

>

> So, Calvin, helping someone in a different way than you believe is

> right, is wrong? Is evil?

>

> Maybe you better go back and read " Freedom in an Unfree World " ,

> starting with the first sentence.

>

> Let me re-read it to you, " FREEDOM is the opportunity to live your

> life as YOU want to live it! "

>

> And quoting Dr. latourette, " it's living your life with you

> controlling your own 4 powers. Two of those powers are internal,

and

> two of those powers are external " .

>

> And they are YOUR powers.

>

> Remember?

>

> > >Have you asked daa veed if he's got them?

> > >You sound like a democrat, comparing apples to woodchips.

> > >Are you a first baptist, attempting to install shame, guilt

and

> > >remorse?

>

> > Not sure where you got all these from, just name calling and

> accusations,

> > not a true form of logic or confrontation.

>

> So, what's your point? Number 1, I did not name call, I did ask

> questions.

>

> Notice the question mark after each sentence. It does have a valid

> reason for being there.

>

> > I am personally neither and do not

> > ascribe to their beliefs, but that is my own personal belief

> system. (i.e.,

> > Map of the World and as we have been told by Bandler and

Grinder,

> yes more

> > authorities, the map is not the territory)

>

> Think a bit bigger Calvin when you quote either Bandler or Grinder.

>

> Notice that the map is not the territory, BUT it is a way to cover

> the territory.

>

> Bad map, you can't get to where you are wanting to go.

> So, using your own logic, but a step higher, now daa veed has

really

> screwed up because his map in invalid, and no one, not even him

can

> get to where he thinks he wants to go because it's wrong.

>

> > >Sorry Alex, that's not what daa veed said. He is very confused

> about

> > >the 3 minds, and his confusion has spread to you.

>

> > Yes, the original poster is confused, or as I thought, high,

>

> Goody goody Calvin, you actually state that daa veed

is " confused " ,

> or worse yet, " high " , but you condemn me because I pointed that

out,

> and defend him because of???

>

> ...now, Calvin, since you agree with me totally, why the defense

> of " PURE SHIT " ?

>

> > but this is a learning platform

>

> Well Calvin, there are certain presuppositions of what you just

> stated, " learning platform " ...

>

> So, what did we learn from daa veed's " SHIT " ?

>

> NOTHING!

>

> At least nothing until I pointed it out and we got this rather

neat

> discussion going, right?

>

> > or rather that is my conception of this group. I no longer

> > know everything. In fact, the more that I learn, the less I

> know, until

> > finally I will know nothing.

>

> So now you can't even tie your shoe, or wipe your butt? Notice

that

> is a question Calvin and is not an accusation.

>

> Did I just point out the ridiculousness of your above statement.

>

> Actually Calvin, the more you study about what you want to study,

> the more that you notice there is more to study.

>

> That study, that achieved knowledge does NOT diminish what you

know,

> it just enlarges the parameters of what to know.

>

> So, in the case of Huna the worse thing that Max Freedom Long did

> was to state that there were no secrets.

>

> Because there are secrets. A dog cannot read a book. He just

hasn't

> the tools to do so. So what we do is magic and godlike to a dog.

> What Bandler does with hypnosis is godlike to a farm boy, if the

> farm boy even notices.

>

> There are many different evolved levels of achievement. There are

> many different levels of secrecy.

>

> And, Max Freedom Long, when he pointed out that there were no

> secrets, was not dumbing down anything.

>

> What he was refering to was the fact that he had developed ways,

> through research, experimentation and study, to do some of the

> secret skills of the kahuna.

>

> If I confuse you at all, that means that you have not yet

read, " The

> Secret Science at Work " , or if you have read it, you have deleted

it

> or not understood it. So, just for a quickee, go back and re-read

> pages ix-xiii.

>

> > > >And what I do not really understand........

> >

> > >Actually you do understand.

> >

> > >You just don't like it.

> >

> > >You'd rather defend some person who spouts " foolish " and very

> > >confusing thoughts, rather than face the fact that it's

nonsense,

> > >and could be hurting someone who wants to learn real Huna.

> > >Once again, Remote Viewing so powerful that you really know

what

> someone thinks.

> > >Haleluya, praise the lord, as I raise up my hands to the

chapel.

>

> > Not sure where this came from, I lost the stream of thought on

> this one.

> > Maybe another cup of coffee will help. Couldn't be more

flaming

> and insults, > could it?

>

> Not from me. I'm a good person.

>

> But others, so mired in their own guilt that they feel they must

> defend the hopeless mentally challenged.

>

> > >Giving skills to those that don't want Huna is brainwashing,

>

> > You cannot give a skill. It has to be learned, either by trial

> and error or

> > by studying with someone who has more knowledge or whom you feel

> has more

> > knowledge and wants to share, such as Doctor La Tourette or

Rev.

> Wingo.

>

> So you agree with me?

>

> Then why the bitching?

>

> > >Giving incorrect data to people for ego gratification is one

of

> the

> > >more horrible crimes that one person can do to another.

>

> > Missed this line of thought totally..I need more coffee.

>

> They you better remote view daa veed.

>

> > >You think that I didn't show him the way?

>

> > No.

>

> > >Did you notice that my first post politely kicked him in the

> butt,

> > >and he actually did much better on his second post?

> > >Not yet, hunnnn? Maybe you'll notice it now, or maybe next

week?

>

> > Not all people learn well with negative feedback, some learn

> better with

> > positive feedback. Anthony Robbins, someone that I consider an

> authority as

> > does Doctor La Tourrette who cited him numerous time in his

> doctorial thesis.

>

> So you are deleting what Robbins and latourette really say?

>

> Go to page 255 of " Unlimited Power " and start with the words, " The

> first metaprogram involves moving toward something or moving away.

> All human behavior revolves around the urge to gain pleasure or

> avoid pain... "

>

> Calvin, do not quote resources unless you know those resources,

> because some of us actually have studied them.

>

> > >Well, maybe by daa veed's 3rd post he'll actually go back to

> Rodman,

> > >or Glover, or Long, or Berney, or Wingo, or Latourette, or

Malo,

> or

> > >Pulo, or Simeona, or L. M. Jones and actually give out pudding

> > >instead of caca.

>

> > Why didn't you mention this to the original poster? I don't

> recall that you

> > did, although I could be mistaken on this. Would (or rather

> could) have

> > been more helpful than a kick in the butt.

>

> For what purpose?

>

> Like I stated before daa veed is a bit hard of hearing.

>

> So, if the post was not only for daa veed, then who else might it

be

> for?

>

> Maybe for the readers of this group?

>

> Maybe for those that are searching for valid, workable Huna?

>

> > >I've met him before. He don't listen too good.

>

> > Now sounds like a personal observation, the first thing that

would

> explain

> > the WHOLE letter. Logically, rather than a flame of Alex, in

MY

> >logic, it would have been better to lead with this.

>

> Again, look at the sequencing of the posts, and the actually

replies

> to the group. Notice that there is a huge possibility that these

> posts have never been for daa veed, but for another purpose?

>

> > >That means you need an adequate roadmap, and a vehicle to

ride,

> > >towards your chosen destination.

>

> > How do you KNOW that who ever this was directed at, either Alex

or

> the

> > original poster does not have a map and a adequate vehicle?

Seems

> like a lot of

> > supposition, in my OPINION..see above for definition.

>

> Nope Calvin,

>

> You are now just whistling in the wind. You know it. I know it.

And

> all the readers know it. You like to defend the weak. An admirable

> trait, but no one needs defending.

>

> Now this might be very important. daa veed does not think of

himself

> weak, and does think of himself very superior. That's why, in his

> post he equated himself with the aumakua. Delusions of grandure.

> You've met him Calvin. Be honest. Is he an aumakua. Remember the

> ladies sweetie pie attempted to " hit-on " at the last convention?

>

> > >And, we are all learning, aren't we Alex?

>

> > I didn't see any learning or teaching in this post.

>

> That's your problem Calvin. You were reading it from the viewpoint

> of righteous indignation, and not from the mindset of " what can I

> learn from this post? " " What is Sandy actually saying, if it were

> something different than the flame I believe it is? "

>

> > Hope you get over it. Actually I don't care.

> > Hugs and kisses, Sandy

>

> > Kind of an insult, like kissing someone after you rape them.

>

> Gosh Calvin.

>

> I wouldn't know. I've never raped anyone. And I've never been

raped.

>

> Have you raped someone? Have you been raped by someone?

>

> If you have, then your metaphor could very weakly be semi-

accurate.

> If you haven't then you've made a very weak attempt at an negative

> hypnotic installation.

>

> Sweet Sandy

> ps. I really love this list. People are so sweet and intelligent.

> Just nice people to talk with. Chow, mis amigos.

> > Calvin Poole

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I do unfortunately remember! He came on to me! He gave me the

creeps back in July. I got flashbacks about him when I read the

post.

 

Remember he kept staring at me and brooding and sulking and giving

you the Evil Eye because I was hanging out with you at the conference

and with your other mind mastery students who I had just met a couple

weeks earlier at my very first seminar with you. He really did seem

to despise YOU for some reason. I didn't want him anywhere near me

and you offered me protection. Thank you for that.

 

Then later in the airport in St. Louis he happened to see me and came

up to me and he was very serious and he started to lecture me about

you as if he knows you. I told him he knows nothing about you and I

explained that I am one of your students.

 

But he continued on with what he had to say, ignoring what I said. He

said that you are NOT a good person, that I should not trust you,

that I should be very careful of you and really watch you.

 

I've learned a LOT from you since July and can protect and defend

myself very well psychically and otherwise now and I thank you for

what you've taught me.

 

I didn't like him then, still don't...I had forgotten about him but

got flashbacks when I read your post. I just want to forget him Doc.

 

Thanks for everything.

Lori

 

 

, " kahunamaker "

<kahunamaker wrote:

>

> , " darthon4 "

> <darthon4@> wrote:

> >

> > Too late...already getting flashbacks from last July...

> >

> > Lori

>

> Yep,

>

> If I remember right he wanted to be " real friendly " with some of

the

> ladies.

>

> Do you know any of them?

>

> Some did complain to me.

>

> I guess he's just a friendly guy;-)

>

>

>

> > > Then again I've no clue what he meant.

> > >

> > > Does anyone here, without hallucinating?

> > >

> > > How about you Lori?

> > >

> > > Vince? Greg? Calvin? Helen?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, " kahunamaker "

<kahunamaker wrote:

(snip)

> Sometimes I wonder if I should analize what BOTH of you guys and

> gals are doing linguistically.

<others wrote>

(snip)

> > So, what's your point? Are you saying that we should ooh and aah a

> > very crappy post just because someone wrote it?

(snip)

> > you missed the emeralds and gold nuggets while you were sniffing

> the crap?

(snip)

> > > >Well Alex, when someone dumps something brown on your plate

 

Does anybody else see a common thread here?

Doc, was that a freudian slip or are you a comedian too?

 

As for analyzing it, I'll leave it to the rest of you. I'm just

beginning to understand most of what I read here. What a wonderfully

diverse group!

 

Blessing to all,

barb

[Guest guest]

Wrote it on the plane -- sent it from the ground

 

 

Helen

 

On Mar 11, 2006, at 11:23 PM, kahunamaker wrote:

[Guest guest]

, " darthon4 "

<darthon4 wrote:

>

> Yes I do unfortunately remember! He came on to me! He gave me

the

> creeps back in July. I got flashbacks about him when I read the

> post.

>

> Remember he kept staring at me and brooding and sulking and giving

> you the Evil Eye because I was hanging out with you at the

conference

> and with your other mind mastery students who I had just met a

couple

> weeks earlier at my very first seminar with you. He really did

seem

> to despise YOU for some reason. I didn't want him anywhere near me

> and you offered me protection. Thank you for that.

 

When I " think " about him, he feels like decaying maggots.

 

And, I am being nice.

 

Think I'll do a SWISH pattern and remove that " caca " from my energy

field.

 

(pause)

 

Done!

 

That feels a lot better.

 

DR. John M. La Tourrette

Okay, since so many Inner Circle Members have asked, I’ve decided to release the

“Kahuna Ruby Crystal Healing Energies Workshop” DVD’s to my Inner Circle

Members. On my webpage it will sell for $597. For the next 5 days YOU get a much

better deal. That deal includes all the DVD’s for the Intensive Workshop. It

includes the “colors” sheets so that you can use them for “healing energies”. It

includes the RUBY CRYSTAL, blessed by a REAL Kahuna, and it includes my notes

for the workshop. I normally NEVER give anyone my notes. In those notes is a

‘Secret Kahuna Energy Technique’ that I used on Lori to HEAL INSTANTLY her old

tear in the meniscus of her right knee. That knee is still pain free and feeling

fine and it’s been a month. Here’s the deal. The deal for inner Circle Members

for the next 5 days is, $297 + P & H. If you live in the states the P & H is $19.50.

If you live outside the states the P & H is just added to your credit card. Fair?

So email Jack at thespeedman right now to have your

set sent out at once. Again, this offer ends in 5 days. Buy now & you save $300

bucks. You made call the office, but we are hard to reach. The office # is

541-776-6334. An email would be best.;-)

[Guest guest]

, " bbtried "

<bbtried wrote:

>

> healingenergies-

essentialskills , " kahunamaker "

> <kahunamaker@> wrote:

> (snip)

> > Sometimes I wonder if I should analize what BOTH of you guys and

> > gals are doing linguistically.

> <others wrote>

> (snip)

> > > So, what's your point? Are you saying that we should ooh and

aah a

> > > very crappy post just because someone wrote it?

> (snip)

> > > you missed the emeralds and gold nuggets while you were

sniffing

> > the crap?

> (snip)

> > > > >Well Alex, when someone dumps something brown on your plate

>

> Does anybody else see a common thread here?

> Doc, was that a freudian slip or are you a comedian too?

>

> As for analyzing it, I'll leave it to the rest of you. I'm just

> beginning to understand most of what I read here. What a

wonderfully

> diverse group!

 

Actually Barb,

I do have a really neat sense of humor.

 

Okay, since so many Inner Circle Members have asked, I've decided to

release the " Kahuna Ruby Crystal Healing Energies Workshop " DVD's to

my Inner Circle Members. On my webpage it will sell for $597. For

the next 5 days YOU get a much better deal. That deal includes all

the DVD's for the Intensive Workshop. It includes the " colors "

sheets so that you can use them for " healing energies " . It includes

the RUBY CRYSTAL, blessed by a REAL Kahuna, and it includes my notes

for the workshop. I normally NEVER give anyone my notes. In those

notes is a `Secret Kahuna Energy Technique' that I used on Lori to

HEAL INSTANTLY her old tear in the meniscus of her right knee. That

knee is still pain free and feeling fine and it's been a month.

Here's the deal. The deal for inner Circle Members for the next 5

days is, $297 + P & H. If you live in the states the P & H is $19.50. If

you live outside the states the P & H is just added to your credit

card. Fair? So email Jack at thespeedman

right now to have your set sent out at once. Again, this offer ends

in 5 days. Buy now & you save $300 bucks. You may call the office,

but we are hard to reach. The office # is 541-776-6334. An email

would be best.;-)

[Guest guest]

Doc,

 

You ARE being too nice. LOL!

 

Lori

 

(snip)

>

> When I " think " about him, he feels like decaying maggots.

>

> And, I am being nice.

>

> Think I'll do a SWISH pattern and remove that " caca " from my energy

> field.

>

> (pause)

>

> Done!

>

> That feels a lot better.

>

>(snip)