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This morning I was watching the Biography Channel that had

a program about Lourdes and the various attitudes, myths and

skepticism about the miracles happening there.

 

One scientist said that most " miracles " eventually are rationally

(conscious mind) explained.

 

Sometimes I wonder where Western medicine would be if

they USED the power of the mind rather than depending on

the knife or the pill.

 

Something like, " Look how powerful the mind is. How I can

use that in my practice? "

 

I wonder what that scientist would have to say after one of

Doc's trainings? How would he rationalize that?

 

Mary

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, " M J Nelson "

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>

> One scientist said that most " miracles " eventually are rationally

> (conscious mind) explained.

>

> Sometimes I wonder where Western medicine would be if

> they USED the power of the mind rather than depending on

> the knife or the pill.

>

> Something like, " Look how powerful the mind is. How I can

> use that in my practice? "

>

> I wonder what that scientist would have to say after one of

> Doc's trainings? How would he rationalize that?

 

Hey Mary,

 

I think you have a good point. It seems to me that science is useful -

particularly the idea of testing theories and accumulating evidence

for them. It's easy to see scientists as hidebound, skeptical and

close-minded and throw the baby out with the bath water. Properly

used, the scientific method can be a wonderful tool for separating

what works from what doesn't. Just worth being aware of the problems

that can crop up... scientists are people and that means they can fall

into thinking traps...

 

1. The Prejudice Trap - A skeptic does the drill and then evaluates

the results. Someone who is prejudiced hallucinates the drill not

working and then evaluates the results. Skepticism good, prejudice bad.

 

2. The Certainty Trap - It is hard to prove anything 100% but some

assumptions become so embedded that they seem 'certain' rather than

probable. I once read a quote that said 'these are the laws of

science, the gospel truth right up until the journals are published

again next month'. So hopefully, good scientists believe firmly in the

model but are constantly open to updating it with new information.

 

3. The Conservatism Trap - People can be afraid of change, they become

conservative and like to keep their beliefs and opinions the same.

This can lead them to misuse reasoning and the scientific method to

delete or distort evidence to fit their existing beliefs.

 

Bottom line: Science and scientists are valuable, they can just, like

everyone else, suffer from a few thinking traps.

 

Have fun,

 

Phil

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Hi Mary

Last year my

Husband had a heart

attack

His brother is a heart surgeon

–even an excellent one

And he took care of the

all thing

BUT WHEN MY HUSBAND ASKED

ME ’’DO HUNA FOR ME’’

I told him I will but ‘’DON’T

TELL ANYTHING ABOUT IT TO

YOU’RE BROTHER’’

I did my HUNA and forgot

about it

My brother in law the Professor

had already plans

For ‘’bypass

operation’’-HE WAS PREAPARING THE KNIVES-

WE KEPT QUIET

And then all the tests

showed NOTHING

5 DOCTORS INCLUDING MY

BROTHER IN LAW

SAID ’’NO

NEED FOR ANYTHING’’

The thing is that if I tell

the professor what really happened-

He will think its crazy-

So we keep quiet-

 

But when it was an emergency

situation –I did call the ambulance

Because

to that point was my believe

 

 

Orna

So my husband which is

not a heart surgeon professor

Started to see there is

something about HUNA

His brother EVEN DIDN’T

WONDER-HOW DID IT HAPPEN?

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of M J Nelson

Wednesday,

March 08, 2006 10:35 PM

 

 

Is it all in the mind?

 

 

This morning I was watching

the Biography Channel that had

a program about Lourdes and the various attitudes, myths and

skepticism about the miracles happening there.

 

One scientist said that most " miracles "

eventually are rationally

(conscious mind) explained.

 

Sometimes I wonder where Western medicine would be

if

they USED the power of the mind rather than

depending on

the knife or the pill.

 

Something like, " Look how powerful the mind

is. How I can

use that in my practice? "

 

I wonder what that scientist would have to say

after one of

Doc's trainings? How would he rationalize that?

 

Mary

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, " M J Nelson "

<zpp4everyone wrote:

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> This morning I was watching the Biography Channel that had

> a program about Lourdes and the various attitudes, myths and

> skepticism about the miracles happening there.

>

> One scientist said that most " miracles " eventually are rationally

> (conscious mind) explained.

>

> Sometimes I wonder where Western medicine would be if

> they USED the power of the mind rather than depending on

> the knife or the pill.

>

> Something like, " Look how powerful the mind is. How I can

> use that in my practice? "

>

> I wonder what that scientist would have to say after one of

> Doc's trainings? How would he rationalize that?

>

> Mary

 

It's happened.

 

I've had that type of mind get real scared at one of my seminars,

and then walk away because of that fear.

 

 

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essentialskills , " phillipmattingly " <phil wrote:

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> , " M J

Nelson "

> <zpp4everyone@> wrote:

> >

> [ snip ]

> >

> > One scientist said that most " miracles " eventually are rationally

> > (conscious mind) explained.

> >

> > Sometimes I wonder where Western medicine would be if

> > they USED the power of the mind rather than depending on

> > the knife or the pill.

> >

> > Something like, " Look how powerful the mind is. How I can

> > use that in my practice? "

> >

> > I wonder what that scientist would have to say after one of

> > Doc's trainings? How would he rationalize that?

>

> Hey Mary,

>

> I think you have a good point. It seems to me that science is

useful -

> particularly the idea of testing theories and accumulating evidence

> for them. It's easy to see scientists as hidebound, skeptical and

> close-minded and throw the baby out with the bath water. Properly

> used, the scientific method can be a wonderful tool for separating

> what works from what doesn't. Just worth being aware of the

problems

> that can crop up... scientists are people and that means they can

fall

> into thinking traps...

>

> 1. The Prejudice Trap - A skeptic does the drill and then evaluates

> the results. Someone who is prejudiced hallucinates the drill not

> working and then evaluates the results. Skepticism good, prejudice

bad.

>

> 2. The Certainty Trap - It is hard to prove anything 100% but some

> assumptions become so embedded that they seem 'certain' rather than

> probable. I once read a quote that said 'these are the laws of

> science, the gospel truth right up until the journals are published

> again next month'. So hopefully, good scientists believe firmly in

the

> model but are constantly open to updating it with new information.

>

> 3. The Conservatism Trap - People can be afraid of change, they

become

> conservative and like to keep their beliefs and opinions the same.

> This can lead them to misuse reasoning and the scientific method to

> delete or distort evidence to fit their existing beliefs.

>

> Bottom line: Science and scientists are valuable, they can just,

like

> everyone else, suffer from a few thinking traps.

>

> Have fun,

>

> Phil

 

One of the weirdest groups I've ever encounter is the Energy

Medicine group.

 

About the only one that really enjoys what I do in that entire

organization is Donna Eden.

 

The rest think I'm a wolf in a hen house.

 

Strange about the mental traps people are in.

 

 

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, " simple "

<simple wrote:

>

> Hi Mary

>

> Last year my

>

> Husband had a heart attack

>

> His brother is a heart surgeon –even an excellent one

>

> And he took care of the all thing

>

> BUT WHEN MY HUSBAND ASKED ME ''DO HUNA FOR ME''

>

> I told him I will but `'DON'T TELL ANYTHING ABOUT IT TO

>

> YOU'RE BROTHER''

>

> I did my HUNA and forgot about it

>

> My brother in law the Professor had already plans

>

> For `'bypass operation''-HE WAS PREAPARING THE KNIVES-

>

> WE KEPT QUIET

>

> And then all the tests showed NOTHING

>

> 5 DOCTORS INCLUDING MY BROTHER IN LAW

>

> SAID ''NO NEED FOR ANYTHING''

>

> The thing is that if I tell the professor what really happened-

>

> He will think its crazy-

>

> So we keep quiet-

 

Yep.

 

That's the important thing about any technology that uses the

subjective dimension for manifestation.

 

It is NOT approved of by the left brained population.

 

And if you mention the how's and the what's, they will screw it up

somehow with their own unconscious power of the aura, and of the

mind.

 

Back to Olga Worrall and her cloud chamber experiments with

Standford Research Institute.

 

A skeptic in the room? It didn't work.

 

No skeptic in the room, it worked at 800 miles distance.

 

Wow!

 

 

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Since Donna is so adept at reading and seeing peoples' energies and

seeing them for who they really are, that just about says it all Doc.

 

Lori

 

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<kahunamaker wrote:

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> One of the weirdest groups I've ever encounter is the Energy

> Medicine group.

>

> About the only one that really enjoys what I do in that entire

> organization is Donna Eden.

>

> The rest think I'm a wolf in a hen house.

>

> Strange about the mental traps people are in.

>

>

>

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> Since Donna is so adept at reading and seeing peoples' energies and

> seeing them for who they really are, that just about says it all Doc.

>

> Lori

 

Thank you Lori.

 

Donna told me one time, " I don't look at body language, nor do I hear

what they say. I just look at their energies, and THAT says it all. "

 

Nice.

 

 

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