Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 , " yildiz " <yildiz22 wrote: > > There are many knowledgeable people on this list and I am not an expert on > energy therapies but I thought I should give my opinion on this as I have > done some work on this problem. I wonder why we should listen to anything you say since you admit up front that you've not studied energy therapies, ....and that you only have an opinion based upon tactics that are old and not on the leading edge. I mean, this is a world of free speech, but why talk if you don't know what you are talking about? Sounds to me like you are a fish stating that it's impossible for birds to fly. >After some research What research? You've already told us you don't know squat about energy psychology. Learn the methods of masters like Craig, Latourrette, Feinstein, Gallo, and Callahan before giving your ignorant opinon about them. Can you do that? > and thinking I came to What is thinking? Aristole was an armchair thinker and he, smart as he was, really screwed up on some of his surmises. Especially the one about gravity. It took a thousand years and a Galileo to straighten that mistake out. > the point of thinking that this problem is something similar to post > traumatic stress disorder. Okay. So what? >There is specific trauma stored in brain at PTSD > whereas in CFS it is the emotion. What's your point? If you knew any energy psychology, you'd know that virtually all PTSD can be blown out of the energy field in 20 minutes for most cases. In fact when I sign up a client for any thing, I go by the project and solution and not by the time. Some cases take only a few minutes. Some, maybe one out of a thousand take an hour and a half. > I believe trauma release is needed. So what? A belief is just a thought, an opinon, not worth much. Learn energy medicine, and you'll know differently. Then experience the energy psychology and notice what you notice. > Unless the original trauma/traumas released other approaches may >help only temporarily. Nope. You are dead wrong. Especially if you include with the other approaches that you are badmouthing things like the energy psychologies that you virtually know nothing about. Having done hundreds of PTSD for the military, for law enforcement, for trauma victims, I can easily and truthfully state, " get more learning before telling us how it is " , okay? I am certified in many disciplines and I know through training and experience how they work or do not work. Now hypnosis does take 21-30 days with a good practitioner. NLP works good on about 47 percent of the people with PTSD, especially the fast phobia cure, reframing, and past time line trauma therapy, where what you've said can be valid the case. Go to the first cause. It's not that way in energy psychology. Sorry. Sandy Godheart moderator > Best wishes. > Nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Hi Sandy, >> There are many knowledgeable people on this list and I am not an > expert on >> energy therapies but I thought I should give my opinion on this as > I have >> done some work on this problem. > > I wonder why we should listen to anything you say since you admit up > front that you've not studied energy therapies, I said I was not an expert. Did not say I know nothing about it.Is there a rule for this list that people who are not experts can not express their views? If yes,please tell me so.Than,I will leave the list.You may or may not listen to me. It is your preference.But,listening is always good.Sometimes even people who say who are not experts may give you an important clue.There are always something more to learn.I am long term CFS patient. So,I know a bit about it.I did not say methods like EFT,NLP were ineffective.I said trauma release was necessary. I also use EFT and some other energy medicine methods for trauma release. My purpose is Trauma release,my tools are energy medicine methods. Also I did not say anything about PTSD therapy. I used PTSD to describe what CFS was like.I said trauma release was necessary for CFS.I saw that you mentioned about PTSD. Just wondering. have you cured any CFS cases?If you don't mind would you explain me how you did it. This might help me.I am thinking you decided about me rather quickly.It could also be that I could not express myself clearly.If you are interested in astrology,this is mercury retrograde period. So,some confusion is possible.Hope we can get along well later. No more to say about the remaining part of your note as I am quite exhausted long term CFS patient and can not write much. best wishes and love. nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 healingenergies- essentialskills , " sandygodheart " <sandygodheart wrote: > > , " yildiz " > <yildiz22@> wrote: > > > > There are many knowledgeable people on this list and I am not an > expert on > > energy therapies but I thought I should give my opinion on this as > I have > > done some work on this problem. > > I wonder why we should listen to anything you say since you admit up > front that you've not studied energy therapies, > > ...and that you only have an opinion based upon tactics that are old > and not on the leading edge. > > I mean, this is a world of free speech, but why talk if you don't > know what you are talking about? > > Sounds to me like you are a fish stating that it's impossible for > birds to fly. I love what Sandy has to say. Normally so refreshing, especially after hearing others attempt to be nice. No hidden agenda. No ax to grind. She's just her, and I love that. So honest. A rare quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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