Just ask CORRECTLY and the world is yours! & Energy Vampires

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essentialskills , " sandygodheart " <sandygodheart

wrote:

> Just ask Jesus and the world is yours?

>

> Hahahahahahaha!

> Sandy Godheart

 

I find it really funny and NOT because Sandy is laughing...

 

....but because most of the religious folks " just ask the WRONG way " .

 

And I think that is what Sandy is pointing out.

 

By the way, " alturism " is one of the major types of energy vampire.

 

Why is that so?

 

 

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> By the way, " alturism " is one of the major types of energy vampire.

> Why is that so?

 

I seem to remember Ayn Rand writing that altruism was a form of sacrifice

without any compensation - a form of giving for no reason other than pity.

 

She made me realise just how awful the emotion " pity " really is, and how I

should substitute it for more constructive emotions.

 

Now, I don't know the answer to your question, Doc, and I'm looking forward

to learning.

 

All I know is that I believe (and it's only a belief) that when giving, you

should have a clear idea of your PURPOSE (it may be as simple as wanting to

give of yourself to the world) and WHAT FOR (random gifts to charities that

you have no clue about can be counter-productive).

 

Paddy

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, " Paddy

Landau " <paddy wrote:

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> -

> > By the way, " alturism " is one of the major types of energy

vampire.

> > Why is that so?

 

> I seem to remember Ayn Rand writing that altruism was a form of

sacrifice

> without any compensation - a form of giving for no reason other

than pity.

 

And for pity to be there, what else MUST be there?

 

Besides judgement?

 

Besides being better than?

 

Besides, blab, blab, blab?

 

And for altruism to be a positive force, what is necessary to be

there?

 

And, as far as I know, I've only met one or two people that have

those positive traits of altruism.

 

 

 

>

> She made me realise just how awful the emotion " pity " really is,

and how I

> should substitute it for more constructive emotions.

>

> Now, I don't know the answer to your question, Doc, and I'm

looking forward

> to learning.

>

> All I know is that I believe (and it's only a belief) that when

giving, you

> should have a clear idea of your PURPOSE (it may be as simple as

wanting to

> give of yourself to the world) and WHAT FOR (random gifts to

charities that

> you have no clue about can be counter-productive).

>

> Paddy

>

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essentialskills , " kahunamaker " <kahunamaker

wrote:

>

> , " Paddy

> Landau " <paddy@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > > By the way, " alturism " is one of the major types of energy

> vampire.

> > > Why is that so?

>

> > I seem to remember Ayn Rand writing that altruism was a form of

> sacrifice

> > without any compensation - a form of giving for no reason other

> than pity.

>

> And for pity to be there, what else MUST be there?

 

For me when I think of a tramp (vagrant, Bum etc)in the street, I

feel pity, I also feel guilt. Guilt of having more than that person.

 

I never consciously thought about that before - thanks Doc,

something I can now easily tap out. - several rounds of tapping

later - aah that's much better :> (Yes I did actually tap before

typing further).

 

I walked past one yesterday, doing the usual looking down at the

floor, cup in hand, a typical pose to get people to give money by

feeling sorry for them. Anyway I walked within 6 feet of him and

felt a black heaviness, I had to mentally clap it away and then Zip

up before it took hold.

 

How many people did he negatively affect yesterday?

 

Must have been thoasands, this was near London Bridge (in Central

London), so it has a load of tourists and office workers going past

him very regularly.

 

>

> Besides judgement?

>

> Besides being better than?

>

> Besides, blab, blab, blab?

>

> And for altruism to be a positive force, what is necessary to be

> there?

 

Mmmm, at a guess I would say, keeping in mind what would be the best

way for the person to evolve and move forward in life, so that they

are empowered. Just like that Hot dog storey where Donna gave the

guy a workable method to energise his food.

 

Michael.

 

>

> And, as far as I know, I've only met one or two people that have

> those positive traits of altruism.

>

>

>

> >

> > She made me realise just how awful the emotion " pity " really is,

> and how I

> > should substitute it for more constructive emotions.

> >

> > Now, I don't know the answer to your question, Doc, and I'm

> looking forward

> > to learning.

> >

> > All I know is that I believe (and it's only a belief) that when

> giving, you

> > should have a clear idea of your PURPOSE (it may be as simple as

> wanting to

> > give of yourself to the world) and WHAT FOR (random gifts to

> charities that

> > you have no clue about can be counter-productive).

> >

> > Paddy

> >

>

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> And for pity to be there, what else MUST be there? ...

 

Hmm...

 

Let's run this backwards.

 

Supposition: A person who deliberately seeks to make others feel pity for

him does so as a manipulative tool.

 

From that point of view, then, for pity to exist, I've come up with four

points, all of which I believe must apply, and fifth point, which applies to

some people and not others:

 

1. The pitier perceives the pitied as suffering misfortune.

2. The pitier believes that he can do something, however small, to alleviate

the situation.

3. The pitier feels guilt or duty (obligation) about the situation.

4. The pitier is NOT responsible for the situation.

 

5. The pitier perceives the pitied as a victim (i.e. not at fault) of the

circumstance.

 

Now, I don't know that I've got this right. As I said in the earlier email,

I'm posting this in order to learn.

 

> And for altruism to be a positive force, what is necessary to be

> there?

 

Passion.

 

The giving must come from a genuine desire to give part of yourself to the

world. You do so not because you feel obliged or guilty, but rather because

you feel a passion for that particular area.

 

For example, you, Doc, give willingly, passionately and with energy to

people on this list, because you have a passion for these types of topics.

You love to give VALUE. You love to SHARE. (Most altruism doesn't involve

sharing.)

 

If you were to give, say, to " the homeless " through a charity, I guess that

you would check out the charity first - that you would want to be sure,

within reason, that the charity would spend your money well.

 

I think - I suspect - that most altruism comes from a point of guilt, not

passion, hence random giving to charities based on advertising.

 

How did I do?

 

Paddy

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>By the way, "alturism" is one of the major types of energy vampire.Why is that so?

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altruism?

 

So, Jesus WAS an energy vampire?

 

rty

 

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kahunamaker

Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:20 AM

Just ask CORRECTLY and the world is yours! & Energy Vampires

, "sandygodheart" <sandygodheart wrote:> Just ask Jesus and the world is yours?> > Hahahahahahaha!> Sandy GodheartI find it really funny and NOT because Sandy is laughing......but because most of the religious folks "just ask the WRONG way".And I think that is what Sandy is pointing out.By the way, "alturism" is one of the major types of energy vampire.Why is that so?