Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 --- hapyleilani wrote: First off Leiani, ....I did really appreciate your posts... ....and, I do disagree with some small portions of it... ....so, just for funnzies I'm going to go over some of those dis- agreements. Now, I'm sure that you are intelligent enough to know that differences of knowledge base and experiences does NOT mean any attack, but clarification? > For example, if you were studying Japanese tea ceremony, acupuncture or karate, It would be beneficial to be able to understand the Japanese key words in > those activities. Well and good. Your analogy does NOT fit. And we've gone over the reasoning before. Now, is it fun to do what you said to do? Sure. But it's NOT necessary, and can hold many people back from the Huna teachings of Max Freedom Long. > eg., > If you are taking karate, the vibration is subtly different if you >yelled " ENERGY! " instead of " KI! " No. You are incorrect. I've taught over 42,000 people over the past 35 years and it just does NOT fit. Our Marine Corps do NOT yell Japanese. They yell in grunts that resemble English. They count cadence THEIR WAY. The Koreans do NOT yell Japanese. They yell hana, tul, set, net... ....which means THEY COUNT CADENCE THEIR WAY! >It would not be incorrect to yell " ONE, TWO, THREE, > FOUR! " while doing the " kata " (forms), but the vibration would be >different from yelling " ICHI! NI--! SAN! SHI--! " . See above explanation, it STILL FITS. > If you look at the Chinese characters for the Japanese word that >means crisis, you'd see that the second character >means " opportunity " . If an interpreter > had said " crisis " while interpreting the Japanese to English, it >would be correct and considered " exact " , but it would lack the full >vibration of thE original language. Well as a translator off oriental languages, you are missing the point, and you are distorting the above on purpose. All translations are done for their DEEPER MEANINGS, and NOT word for word. And notice in Webster's (and other dictionaries) that virtually all words have OTHER MEANINGS, depending upon THEIR CONTEXT. ALL WORDS!, NOT just Hawaiian, Japanes, Korean, blab, blab, blab... > 'Oli (chants) are powerful I believe, because when you 'oli with proper > sounds and intentions, you access the intentions and mana that have built up by > past generations of people who have chanted that chant with the same intentions. You are talking about " thought fields " and those thought-fields have to do WITH INTENTIONS and NOT the words. Now, can the thought fields and the words be anchors? Sure, but they don't have to be. > As a translator and interpreter, I know that even though there is an " exact " > translation of almost all words, some words cannot be fully appreciated in the > same way in another language, because it requires a knowledge of experiencing > or understanding the feelings, situations, subtle nuances, unique cultural > reactions and/or traditions associated with that word within that culture. It > is difficult to include all of that in a easy-to-read translation or > comprehendable intrepretation. And as a professional translator, you know that if you teach the person the word, Aumakau, you still must TEACH ALL OF THE ABOVE TO THEM or it is still just a word, a non-sense word that means nothing! So I agree that what you said sounds nice, and cultural, but is NOT necessary. It is NOT necessary to wear the nuts around your neck. It is NOT necessary to play the drums. It is NOT necessary to know those words, and only those words. It IS necessary to get the DEEP STRUCTURE of the three minds, and how to use them. It IS necessary to LEARN THE KAHUNA SKILLS of ESP. It IS necessary to LEARN THE MIND BRIDGES between the 3 minds from the Uhane (conscious mind) perspective. Enough for now. I have a consultation about Tacos, so I need to go teach the guy the real philosophy of the Spanish Armada first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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