Does 'simple & basic' mean DUMBED DOWN to you?

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<r-ruth03 wrote:

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> I have to say.. I don't really know what the Eden way is all

>about. I have not understood this whole Eden thing since I joined

>this board. I know little about it and have not found the urge to

>learn about it.

 

Well, if you don't want to know, then I suggest you don't learn it.

 

In fact, go back to stage one of competancy, which is ignorance. Now

you are in stage two, which is confusion. And from your unconscious

presuppositions, it seems you don't want to go to stage three in any

REAL manner.

 

> Now, that

> said... I'm curious about all things that seem to work for

>others. I like simple and basic.

 

I find what you said, very amusing.

 

NOT because it is NOT simple and basic, but because you " BELIEVE "

what you do is simple and basic, like a person with one eye " thinks "

what they do is simple and basic, but the rest of the people they

associate with are blind in both eyes.

 

So, what is the differences, group?

 

 

>I am open to learn and open to all that works for others.

> I have a simple background. I have sensed things since I was a

teenager.

 

So, what does " sensing " mean?

 

Why do I ask?

 

Because there is a methodology that is unconscious that you do, but

you do not know that you do.

 

I

> have taken many roads of learning.

 

What roads specifically?

 

Does that mean you've read about them?

 

That you've trained in them?

 

Or that someone talked about them is such a way that you felt

confused?

 

>But something as formal as do this, then

> do that, has not been my way.

 

And, it is NOT Donna's way EITHER!

 

Group, help her out. Tell her about Donna Eden's way.

 

>I know we are all different here and I want

> to understand what you that have studied Eden have learned. Can

>you give me a mini version of the study?

 

A mini version of something that I've spent 9 years studying?

 

A mini version of something that Donna has spent 65 years of this

life time decipering into a way that those who are NOT aura/energy

readers can understand and do?

 

And that she has spent many life times learning?

 

Wow!

 

> I don't mean to undermine it in any way,

 

The entire set of unconscious presuppositions behind what you just

said DOES undermine that topic, as it would any topic done by any

professional.

 

> Life since I have joined here has been a bit overwhelming and

>busy, So I have not looked into it as I should have.

 

Like you should have?

 

According to who?

 

> Polarity makes since to me, it is

> raw, just energy, Reiki is systematic. It doesn't feel natural.

 

Well, if you did Reiki and learned it's steps...then it would make

more sense. What you are doing is stating Chinese doesn't make sense

since I don't understand it. A very poor qualifier for criticism of

anything Chinese, is it not?

 

> I am a hands on, feel it or don't kind of person.

 

So is Donna. So am I.

 

So I'm confused to how you think what you do is not simple. Is it

just because you don't know your own steps?

 

I suggest you then get some counciling from someone that can model

your steps and then teach them to you.

 

NO, this is NOT an attack, just a verification that many who do

stuff don't have a clue to the stuff they do. Just like the post I

did to you 3 months ago that got me kicked off of that idiot's site.

 

By them helping you, that will propel you so far in advance of what

you now do, you will be a butterfly compared to a catapiller.

 

> I just want to understand how you

> all feel the energy and use it to help others.

 

Well, talking don't cook the rice.

 

You want to know?

 

Then do what they do. Get the experience and then you will know. In

fact it is the ONLY WAY you will know.

 

There are a minimum of 5 steps to that knowing. Are you sure you

want them? Or will you just ignore them, as most people do?

 

> I have always been lead by

> instinct. I can't follow a pattern or ritual.

 

Well, can you tie your shoes?

 

Can you cook eggs?

 

Can you bake a cake?

 

If you can, then you can follow a ritual!

 

>Even as Sxxt is my teacher, I

> can't follow Sxxt's pattern.

 

If you could follow his pattern, how would you?

 

Let me clarify something that you don't seem to know about.

 

Uf you don't, as you state, " follow his pattern " , then he is NOT

your teacher!

 

So, if he's NOT your teacher, what is he?

 

Someone that allows you to do whatever you want, and is nice to you,

even if you don't learn.

 

So, call him a friend, NOT your teacher, okay?

 

>I had teachers before him, and myself being my

> own best teacher. I feel it my way and do it my way. and for me

>it works.

 

So, what's the point of your post?

 

> But when I blend what he taught me and what I know, It is a

beautiful

> thing, and I think, my personal belief is that we blend together

very

> nicely.

 

Isn't that what all learning is about?

 

By learning, I don't mean " regurditated " memory.

 

>I have some healing energy but mostly I am emotional energy as my

> history has shown.

 

ALL healing energies are EMOTIONAL ENERGIES. It's knowing when, how

and where to apply which one to which system.

 

I'm done with this post.

 

Group, why am I done with this post?

 

 

 

>It may not be what I would choose, but it is what I am I

> guess, at least at this time and for the last 6 years. ... Talking

out loud

> here tonight I guess. So the system changes every 7 years? I

hope so. I

> hope I can find time to open my mind to new thoughts of healing

soon.

> The National Institute of Health has thrown us into a whirlwind of

> appointments in the next few weeks. Trying to balance traditional

medicine

> with alternative, and finding the right balance in-between... that

is best

> for my son and me. Long term. I'm tired,

> Night all

> Ruth