FORGIVENESS Is More Than Just A Word!

[Guest guest]

When my granddaddy died, I was in 4th grade.

 

I was too young to know some of the horrible things he had done to people.

 

I found out some of them that day.

 

My dad was speeding to get to the hospital to let him know he forgave him and

still loved him anyway, and that everything was ok.

 

The old goat died 5 minutes before we got there.

 

I remember seeing one of the very few times my dad ever cried about ANYTHING.

 

I swore to myself that no matter what happened, I would not have that situation

happen to me.

 

So I learned to hold things in, to hold toxic grudges on the inside while

grinning through my teeth on the outside.

 

I thought I knew " how to forgive " .

 

Fortunately someone else at the seminar spoke up! Doc energy tested him on " I

forgave person X " vs. " I held it in. "

 

Then Doc also showed us a drill on how to resolve grief over loved ones who have

passed on, a drill to use in person, and another drill we can use if we were not

able to be there when the loved one died.

 

The drills are valid for other types of emotional " stuff, " too, whether it's

someone who walked out on you, dumped you, dumped ON you, or just plain done you

wrong...

 

I was even able to use it for the dumb stuff I've done to myself.

 

I thought being able to tell someone " I forgive you " was pretty darn good until

Doc showed us how FORGIVENESS is MORE THAN JUST A WORD, *AND* gave us the skills

to be able to actually DO it!

 

Geez, thanks again, Doc!

 

I got a whole list of more things I learned at the seminar.

 

So if you weren't there, you have absolutely NO idea what all you missed out on!

 

Sincerely,

Jim

[Guest guest]

, " James R.

Knippenberg " <erommel wrote:

> Then Doc also showed us a drill on how to resolve grief over loved

ones who have passed on, a drill to use in person, and another drill

we can use if we were not able to be there when the loved one died.

>

> The drills are valid for other types of emotional " stuff, " too,

whether it's someone who walked out on you, dumped you, dumped ON

you, or just plain done you wrong...

>

> I was even able to use it for the dumb stuff I've done to myself.

>

> I thought being able to tell someone " I forgive you " was pretty

darn good until Doc showed us how FORGIVENESS is MORE THAN JUST A

WORD, *AND* gave us the skills to be able to actually DO it!

 

What is interesting is that everyone at the Kahuna Miracles on Demand

Intensive " thought " they had forgiven others...

 

....and then we talked to their subconscious minds and energy tested

if, in fact, it had happened.

 

It hadn't.

 

Which was good to find out since the process for forgiveness is

reallyl done from a different angle and a different word process.

 

A simple version for this list would be to pay attention to the

word " blessing " and the word " appreciation " instead of the

word " forgive " .

 

" Forgive " is so damn judgemental and carries much negative baggage

with it.

 

Have fun.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this post, Doc. I have never been able

to figure out what that darned word " forgive " means.

I know it has something to do with NOT holding a

grudge, but aside from that, I don't get it.

 

 

--- docspeed2001 <docspeed2001 wrote:

 

> --- In

> ,

> " James R.

> Knippenberg " <erommel wrote:

> > Then Doc also showed us a drill on how to resolve

> grief over loved

> ones who have passed on, a drill to use in person,

> and another drill

> we can use if we were not able to be there when the

> loved one died.

> >

> > The drills are valid for other types of emotional

> " stuff, " too,

> whether it's someone who walked out on you, dumped

> you, dumped ON

> you, or just plain done you wrong...

> >

> > I was even able to use it for the dumb stuff I've

> done to myself.

> >

> > I thought being able to tell someone " I forgive

> you " was pretty

> darn good until Doc showed us how FORGIVENESS is

> MORE THAN JUST A

> WORD, *AND* gave us the skills to be able to

> actually DO it!

>

> What is interesting is that everyone at the Kahuna

> Miracles on Demand

> Intensive " thought " they had forgiven others...

>

> ...and then we talked to their subconscious minds

> and energy tested

> if, in fact, it had happened.

>

> It hadn't.

>

> Which was good to find out since the process for

> forgiveness is

> reallyl done from a different angle and a different

> word process.

>

> A simple version for this list would be to pay

> attention to the

> word " blessing " and the word " appreciation " instead

> of the

> word " forgive " .

>

> " Forgive " is so damn judgemental and carries much

> negative baggage

> with it.

>

> Have fun.

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, " docspeed2001 "

<docspeed2001 wrote:

 

> Which was good to find out since the process for forgiveness is

> really done from a different angle and a different word process.

>

 

Hi Doc,

 

> " Forgive " is so damn judgemental and carries much negative baggage

> with it.

 

As usual you have my attention. Being judgemental is a problem I've

only become aware of in this last decade. Before I wasn't aware it was

a problem. ;-} Now I know better. My Dad would say " Too soon we get

oldt, to late smart. "

 

> A simple version for this list would be to pay attention to the

> word " blessing " and the word " appreciation " instead of the

> word " forgive " .

 

I now try to look for the reason a difficult circumstance is present

in my life especially if it reoccurs. Sometimes putting myself in the

position of the offender and considering the " whys " of their actions

helps me to understand their behavior. And sometimes saying I forgive

them is then easier. Wishing them well is another story and I continue

to work on this.

 

There is the feeling that by forgiving, blessing and appreciating I am

condoning. On a purely intellectual level I know this isn't totally

so. On an emotional level it's much more difficult to handle.

 

I'm reading " Zero Limits. " Admittedly I haven't gotten very far into

it yet. I'm hoping that it gets more specific. Even though I've found

Joe Vitale's writings enjoyable and informative in the past, they are

a little like " Feel Good, 101. " Please understand this is NOT a

criticism, I waited a month to get this book.

 

From what I've read on forum and in your DVDs, I suspect that the

first step in forgiving would be to diffuse the emotional charge

associated with the event\person one needs to forgive. By using your

IDD, a super charged EFT, one should be able to do this.

 

Am I missing something here, I feel like I am? Is there something I

should do even before this?

 

Getting curiouser and curiouser all the time,

Thanks,

barb(bbtried)

[Guest guest]

-

" docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001

 

Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:07 PM

Re: FORGIVENESS Is

More Than Just A Word!

 

 

: , " James

R.

: Knippenberg " <erommel wrote:

: > Then Doc also showed us a drill on how to resolve grief over

loved

: ones who have passed on, a drill to use in person, and another

drill

: we can use if we were not able to be there when the loved one

died.

 

: What is interesting is that everyone at the Kahuna Miracles on

Demand

: Intensive " thought " they had forgiven others...

:

: ...and then we talked to their subconscious minds and energy

tested

: if, in fact, it had happened.

:

: It hadn't.

:

: Which was good to find out since the process for forgiveness is

: reallyl done from a different angle and a different word

process.

:

: A simple version for this list would be to pay attention to the

: word " blessing " and the word " appreciation " instead of the

: word " forgive " .

:

: " Forgive " is so damn judgemental and carries much negative

baggage

: with it.

:

: Have fun.

:

:

[Guest guest]

Doc,

Your post is interesting in that I have found myself sending

blessings and sometimes appreciation to people who have hurt me

in various ways. I certainly feel better when I do that rather

than attempting to forgive.

 

Yes, forgive does carry much negative baggage. Sending blessings

carry blessings without any need to " forgive " anyone.

 

Mary Nelson

http://www.eft4everyone.com

 

 

A simple version for this list would be to pay attention to the

word " blessing " and the word " appreciation " instead of the

word " forgive " .

:

: " Forgive " is so damn judgemental and carries much negative

baggage

: with it.

:

: Have fun.

:

:

:

:

[Guest guest]

, Marci Bowman

<espacia2 wrote:

>

> Thank you for this post, Doc. I have never been able

> to figure out what that darned word " forgive " means.

> I know it has something to do with NOT holding a

> grudge, but aside from that, I don't get it.

 

Hi Marci,

It was a VERY POWERFUL weekend on " healing " .

 

Which I thought was weird because it really was on " Kahuna Miracles

on Demand " .

 

And the part on " forgiveness " came up because of a bumper-sticker I

saw while on the way to the intensive.

 

So first I had to blow out everything all the attendees " believed "

about forgiveness. I normally use satire and humor. They were rolling

in the aisles.

 

And it is all Donna Edens fault!

 

I did learn the secrets of the Radiant Energies from her.

 

And all my intensives are full of Radiant Energies.

 

From there, teaching what to do and how to do it was easy for

everyone in attendence.

 

Unfortunately, as the whinning lady (DEB?) so aptely pointed

out, " it's difficult to convey what happened THERE on a printed post

that YOUR PERSONAL FILTERS will distort, delete and generalize in

ways that the poster NEVER intended! "

 

WOW!

 

Fun.

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " M J Nelson "

<zpp4everyone wrote:

>

> Doc,

> Your post is interesting in that I have found myself sending

> blessings and sometimes appreciation to people who have hurt me

> in various ways. I certainly feel better when I do that rather

> than attempting to forgive.

>

> Yes, forgive does carry much negative baggage. Sending blessings

> carry blessings without any need to " forgive " anyone.

>

> Mary Nelson

> http://www.eft4everyone.com

 

Hi Mary,

 

I was thinking of you when I taught that portion of the Kahuna

Miracles on Demand Intensive.

 

I was saying to myself, " This is what Mary really could use " .

 

Oh well,

 

Hell, I could have used it back in the 70's and 80's.

 

Oh, wait!

 

There's Time Travel!

 

 

[Guest guest]

>Yes, forgive does carry much negative baggage. Sending blessings

carry blessings without any need to " forgive " anyone.

-

If the word " forgive " , carries negative baggage in your mind, Mary, you

don't need to bless but if you substitute, " release the resentment " , it will

clear this stuff from your Karma and that is what the intent of

" Forgiveness " is.

 

Forgiving or releasing resentment is for Your benefit not for the benefit

of the Forgiven.

 

If you want to understand the science behind this read Candace Pert's,

" Molecules of Emotion. "

 

http://www.candacepert.com/

 

rusty

 

-

" M J Nelson " <zpp4everyone

 

Monday, November 19, 2007 10:31 AM

Re: Re: FORGIVENESS Is More Than

Just A Word!

 

 

> Doc,

> Your post is interesting in that I have found myself sending

> blessings and sometimes appreciation to people who have hurt me

> in various ways. I certainly feel better when I do that rather

> than attempting to forgive.

>

> Yes, forgive does carry much negative baggage. Sending blessings

> carry blessings without any need to " forgive " anyone.

>

> Mary Nelson

> http://www.eft4everyone.com

>

>

> A simple version for this list would be to pay attention to the

> word " blessing " and the word " appreciation " instead of the

> word " forgive " .

> :

> : " Forgive " is so damn judgemental and carries much negative

> baggage

> : with it.

> :

> : Have fun.

> :

> :

[Guest guest]

-

" docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001

 

Monday, November 19, 2007 1:11 PM

Re: FORGIVENESS Is

More Than Just A Word!

 

 

: , " M J

Nelson "

: <zpp4everyone wrote:

: >

: > Doc,

: > Your post is interesting in that I have found myself sending

: > blessings and sometimes appreciation to people who have hurt

me

: > in various ways. I certainly feel better when I do that

rather

: > than attempting to forgive.

: >

: > Yes, forgive does carry much negative baggage. Sending

blessings

: > carry blessings without any need to " forgive " anyone.

: >

: > Mary Nelson

: > http://www.eft4everyone.com

:

: Hi Mary,

:

: I was thinking of you when I taught that portion of the Kahuna

: Miracles on Demand Intensive.

:

: I was saying to myself, " This is what Mary really could use " .

:

: Oh well,

:

: Hell, I could have used it back in the 70's and 80's.

:

: Oh, wait!

:

: There's Time Travel!

:

:

:

Doc,

While I was not present at the last intensive, I was taking the

final segments of a 9-day NLP training. The last day I was a demo

subject and got some very useful work done. It was amazing. Carl

is an excellent NLP practitioner. After taking your intensives, I

know he could be even better if he branches out to include EM

rather than sticking pretty much to straight NLP.

 

Re forgiveness: I have found it takes a degree of letting go to

even be willing to send blessings and/or appreciation to a person

that has hurt me. It is a step along the way and does make a

difference for me.

 

And yes, Mary probably could really have used what you taught.

 

Mary Nelson

http://www.eft4everyone.com

[Guest guest]

WELL...

 

I do have to disagree, somewhat...

 

" release the resentment " still has the focus on resentment.

 

That's like trying to NOT think of a red stop sign. That's like praying to

" release the illness " . Or telling a child, " If you don't wear your coat all the

time, You will catch the flu and get sick! " Or praying for a loved one, " don't

DIE! don't DIE! don't DIE! "

 

How, specifically, do you " release resentment " when the resentment is still the

focus of attention?

 

And by the way, we did do the blessing drill, in a specific manner, and it did

work for everyone there who did the drill.

 

And WITHOUT the blessing drill, I've yet to find anyone who can give a

reasonably workable version of how to actually " forgive " .

 

What's really interesting is, just like Doc said, the purpose of the drill was

NOT to learn how to forgive. It was for something else.

 

I WISH I knew the things Doc taught us, even on the night before the seminar,

way back when those Bible thumpers were trying to brainwash me with " Bless those

who curse you, " and other such scriptures they neither understood NOR knew how

to follow.

 

If you didn't do the blessing drill the way Doc taught us, you don't know how to

do the drill. I " thought " I knew how to do the drill, and I learned that the

Drill DOC is talking about is much, much better than the one I had in mind.

 

I'm surprised you would have advice for Mary about a drill you were not there to

learn.

 

Sincerely,

Jim

 

 

 

 

 

>rusty <lwinmorgan

>Nov 19, 2007 3:52 PM

>

>Re: Re: FORGIVENESS Is More Than

Just A Word!

>

>>Yes, forgive does carry much negative baggage. Sending blessings

>carry blessings without any need to " forgive " anyone.

>-

>If the word " forgive " , carries negative baggage in your mind, Mary, you

>don't need to bless but if you substitute, " release the resentment " , it will

>clear this stuff from your Karma and that is what the intent of

> " Forgiveness " is.

>

> Forgiving or releasing resentment is for Your benefit not for the benefit

>of the Forgiven.

>

> If you want to understand the science behind this read Candace Pert's,

> " Molecules of Emotion. "

>

>http://www.candacepert.com/

>

>rusty

>

>-

> " M J Nelson " <zpp4everyone

>

>Monday, November 19, 2007 10:31 AM

>Re: Re: FORGIVENESS Is More Than

>Just A Word!

>

>

>> Doc,

>> Your post is interesting in that I have found myself sending

>> blessings and sometimes appreciation to people who have hurt me

>> in various ways. I certainly feel better when I do that rather

>> than attempting to forgive.

>>

>> Yes, forgive does carry much negative baggage. Sending blessings

>> carry blessings without any need to " forgive " anyone.

>>

>> Mary Nelson

>> http://www.eft4everyone.com

>>

>>

>> A simple version for this list would be to pay attention to the

>> word " blessing " and the word " appreciation " instead of the

>> word " forgive " .

>> :

>> : " Forgive " is so damn judgemental and carries much negative

>> baggage

>> : with it.

>> :

>> : Have fun.

>> :

>> :

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I find that for me, the more I complain the worse things get. So I

try not to complain much.

 

 

> > Doc,

> > Your post is interesting in that I have found myself sending

> > blessings and sometimes appreciation to people who have hurt me

> > in various ways. I certainly feel better when I do that rather

> > than attempting to forgive.

> >

> > Yes, forgive does carry much negative baggage. Sending blessings

> > carry blessings without any need to " forgive " anyone.

> >

> > Mary Nelson

> > http://www.eft4everyone.com

> >

> >

> > A simple version for this list would be to pay attention to the

> > word " blessing " and the word " appreciation " instead of the

> > word " forgive " .

> > :

> > : " Forgive " is so damn judgemental and carries much negative

> > baggage

> > : with it.

> > :

> > : Have fun.

> > :

> > :

>