Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 haven't treated it myself yet, but here is how I see this problem: - Fire problem, reaches mouth via ST channel, maybe also LI (Yang Ming) - Vacuity of Blood (and Qi) so tendons are not nourished - leading to internal Wind I'd just treat the pattern(s) that you see in this person. regards Tom. ---- Chinese Medicine 10/19/04 14:53:41 Chinese Medicine Grinding teeth Hi. I have a new patient coming tomorrow which main complaint is grinding his teeth while asleep. I don't have any more information about him at the moment since I haven't seen him yet, so will know about all the rest and pulse and tongue tomorrow but was wondering if anyone could let me know how they would consider this in TCM terms and if they had any success in treating it. Thanks May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 May, It usually manifests within the pattern of Lover Qi Stganation, so using Liv 3 and P6 works well. I would also use Ren 24 and Si19 (both sides). Results are usually very good. Kind regards Dermot - " May Lucken-Ardjomande " <maylucken <Chinese Medicine > Monday, October 18, 2004 10:23 PM Grinding teeth > > > Hi. > > I have a new patient coming tomorrow which main complaint is grinding his > teeth while asleep. > > I don't have any more information about him at the moment since I haven't > seen him yet, so will know about all the rest and pulse and tongue tomorrow > but was wondering if anyone could let me know how they would consider this > in TCM terms and if they had any success in treating it. > > Thanks > > May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Although very apt i'll bet you wont find " Lover Qi stagnation " in the Wiseman although personally I think it should be added! Cheers Ray Ford ---- Chinese Medicine Tuesday, 19 October 2004 7:18:39 PM Chinese Medicine Re: Grinding teeth May, It usually manifests within the pattern of Lover Qi Stganation, so using Liv 3 and P6 works well. I would also use Ren 24 and Si19 (both sides). Results are usually very good. Kind regards Dermot - " May Lucken-Ardjomande " <maylucken <Chinese Medicine > Monday, October 18, 2004 10:23 PM Grinding teeth > > > Hi. > > I have a new patient coming tomorrow which main complaint is grinding his > teeth while asleep. > > I don't have any more information about him at the moment since I haven't > seen him yet, so will know about all the rest and pulse and tongue tomorrow > but was wondering if anyone could let me know how they would consider this > in TCM terms and if they had any success in treating it. > > Thanks > > May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 I veigly remember “grinding teeth” connection to worms infestation. peter --- Tom Verhaeghe <verhaeghe_tom wrote: haven't treated it myself yet, but here is how I see this problem: - Fire problem, reaches mouth via ST channel, maybe also LI (Yang Ming) - Vacuity of Blood (and Qi) so tendons are not nourished - leading to internal Wind I'd just treat the pattern(s) that you see in this person. regards Tom. ---- Chinese Medicine 10/19/04 14:53:41 Chinese Medicine Grinding teeth Hi. I have a new patient coming tomorrow which main complaint is grinding his teeth while asleep. I don't have any more information about him at the moment since I haven't seen him yet, so will know about all the rest and pulse and tongue tomorrow but was wondering if anyone could let me know how they would consider this in TCM terms and if they had any success in treating it. Thanks May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 I consulted an EFT practitioner who also used some EM techniques (such as, she corrected for reversal before doing EFT), and after some good drills, asked her whether she knew any drills to stop me grinding my teeth in my sleep. She said no, but she would like to because she does it too. Unfortunately this side effect of anxiety causes significant tooth damage. Working on my own I discovered that it is hard for us tooth grinders to tell when our jaw is tense. But if you tell yourself " relax the tongue " you can immediately feel the difference. If you make the whole tongue relax and go soft, you will usually find that more saliva starts running. Manual face massage also helps to relax the face and jaw. The strongest technique is to rub four acupuncture points simultaneously. Two are right in front of the ears, just under the ridge of the cheek bone on the " hinge " of the jaw. These relax the mandibular joint. Two more are on the top of the chin bone chin, under the bottom gums and just outside your front teeth. To massage four points simultaneously use two index fingers on the jaw joint points, and two little fingers on the chin points. Just rub gently for a minute. When you take your fingers away your face will go soft and it will feel like you have had a couple of cocktails. This is how people without anxiety feel. You can do this as often as you need to, and right before going to sleep, and if you wake up. There are two more points above the upper gum line (either side of the bottom of the nose and just outside the front teeth) which correspond to the chin points. These are fun too, as they make the upper lip area relax. If you can't find the points ask me for a diagram and I will scan and send it in a couple of days. I think this is just symptomatic treatment; next I am going to remove the causes of anxiety with the thought field techniques in EM. Cheers Kit Hugz Kit Free social bookmarking Save and tag your favourites online http://del.icio.us/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Hi, Kit, Yes, i would love to receive the diagram. thanks, einiyahb , " Christopher Strong " <fortissime wrote: " ... Working on my own I discovered that it is hard for us tooth grinders to tell.... If you can't find the points ask me for a diagram and I will scan and send it in a couple of days. I think this is just symptomatic treatment; next I am going to remove the causes of anxiety with the thought field techniques in EM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Hi Kit, Those are great facial relaxation points to know. I would be interested to see the exact upper lip point. I think I have found it. Thanks for sending them when you can. Donna told us another set of points for TMJ. I find after doing this- I can't clench my jaw at all! (It's not for just all moments in the day because one finger goes inside the mouth.) Press the spot at the end of the jaw from the outside and reach back inside and press in, pinching the skin of the cheek back there with two index fingers or thumb and index of one hand. Isn't it wonderful to have so many tools~ Rebecca Gurland , " Christopher Strong " <fortissime wrote: > > I consulted an EFT practitioner who also used some EM techniques (such as, > she corrected for reversal before doing EFT), and after some good drills, > asked her whether she knew any drills to stop me grinding my teeth in my > sleep. She said no, but she would like to because she does it too. > Unfortunately this side effect of anxiety causes significant tooth damage. > > Working on my own I discovered that it is hard for us tooth grinders to tell > when our jaw is tense. But if you tell yourself " relax the tongue " you can > immediately feel the difference. If you make the whole tongue relax and go > soft, you will usually find that more saliva starts running. Manual face > massage also helps to relax the face and jaw. > > The strongest technique is to rub four acupuncture points simultaneously. > Two are right in front of the ears, just under the ridge of the cheek bone > on the " hinge " of the jaw. These relax the mandibular joint. > Two more are on the top of the chin bone chin, under the bottom gums and > just outside your front teeth. > > To massage four points simultaneously use two index fingers on the jaw joint > points, and two little fingers on the chin points. Just rub gently for a > minute. When you take your fingers away your face will go soft and it will > feel like you have had a couple of cocktails. This is how people without > anxiety feel. You can do this as often as you need to, and right before > going to sleep, and if you wake up. > > There are two more points above the upper gum line (either side of the > bottom of the nose and just outside the front teeth) which correspond to the > chin points. These are fun too, as they make the upper lip area relax. > > If you can't find the points ask me for a diagram and I will scan and send > it in a couple of days. > > I think this is just symptomatic treatment; next I am going to remove the > causes of anxiety with the thought field > techniques in EM. > > Cheers > Kit > > > > Hugz > Kit > > > Free social bookmarking > Save and tag your favourites online > http://del.icio.us/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Hello,Is that chart available on line?Thanks,DonnaEiniyah ben-Elyon <blueskies2281 wrote: Hi, Kit, Yes, i would love to receive the diagram. thanks, einiyahb , "Christopher Strong" <fortissime wrote: "... Working on my own I discovered that it is hard for us tooth grinders to tell.... If you can't find the points ask me for a diagram and I will scan and send it in a couple of days. I think this is just symptomatic treatment; next I am going to remove the causes of anxiety with the thought field techniques in EM. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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