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Doc, Thank you for your response ....and the techniques... They are truly appreciated....I especially like the hairbrush one...as I am still in the postsurgical boots... gs

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<tbm36m wrote:

 

> Sure, there's lots of advice that gs could easily do but they may

> be useless unless more information is gathered in an assessment.

 

And, they may NOT be.

 

As you did point out with your " stories " about the several " examples " .

They are very good examples.

 

All those stories gave methods that might or might not be isomorphic

for her. She will know and be able to pick and choose which ones to use and not

use.

 

Thank you.

 

 

Ps. I would NEVER give a kung fu horse stance for any type of therapy or

conditioning. What I would do is have them do the wall squatting isometric,

where they have a chair on each side to stabilize themselves.

 

> For example:

> Why are the knees buckling? Torn ligaments? What grade of

> instability? Ankle fractures? Acute, subacute, healed chronic?

Non-

> union? How does the calcaneus move? Obese? Genu valgus? Over

> pronation? Is there swelling? Joint crepitus? Tight butt? Prior

> surgeries? How do they walk? Climb stairs?

>

> All these are variables that are important in determining what

advice

> to give.

>

> I saw a morbidly obese man today with knee instability. I had to

> observe him walk, listen to his history, and give him what he

needed

> the most.

>

> My exercise prescription AFTER the diagnosis of posterior knee

> instability caused by obesity, genu valgus, tight calf muscles,

weak

> quads, and pronatory foot type was for him to stand in a chi kung

> posture and do some simple tai chi walking.

>

> Knee extensions wouldn't work well for this man, neither would the

> Chuck Morris machine I have and use a lot for other knee patients.

He

> needed something that he could do successfully, that he would do at

> home, and that would take care of the problem.

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I use a wuji style posture taught by Master Fong Ha out of No.

California, and is natural and energizing for folks with knee or back

pain who stand with locked knees.

 

Yes, if the horse posture is the same as the Shoalin style I was

taught, then its too wide.

 

It's worked wonders for my clients and myself when I stand all day. And

the amazing thing is, they have more energy! I see it take off as soon

as they hit the posture just right.

 

Thank you for your dialogue and insight.

 

Cheers,

Troy

 

 

 

>

> Ps. I would NEVER give a kung fu horse stance for any type of therapy

or conditioning. What I would do is have them do the wall squatting

isometric, where they have a chair on each side to stabilize themselves.

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>I use a wuji style posture taught by Master Fong Ha out of No.

> California, and is natural and energizing for folks with knee or back

> pain who stand with locked knees.

>

> Yes, if the horse posture is the same as the Shoalin style I was

> taught, then its too wide.

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Precisely. Horse stance requires muscle holding and puts stress on the

joints. The wuji stance is with the feet exactly parallel and exactly

shoulder width; the hips tip forward and upward just enough to unlock the

knees. Then and only then, you can let go of all muscle holding and relax

totally in balance.

 

Wu ji : Wu [ the big empty] ji,(chi) [life force] = Open to the life

force.

 

Sung.

rusty

 

 

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" tbm36m " <tbm36m

 

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:26 PM

Re: Doc, what do you recommend

for knees regarding isometrics..

 

 

>I use a wuji style posture taught by Master Fong Ha out of No.

> California, and is natural and energizing for folks with knee or back

> pain who stand with locked knees.

>

> Yes, if the horse posture is the same as the Shoalin style I was

> taught, then its too wide.

>

> It's worked wonders for my clients and myself when I stand all day. And

> the amazing thing is, they have more energy! I see it take off as soon

> as they hit the posture just right.

>

> Thank you for your dialogue and insight.

>

> Cheers,

> Troy

>

>

>

>>

>> Ps. I would NEVER give a kung fu horse stance for any type of therapy

> or conditioning. What I would do is have them do the wall squatting

> isometric, where they have a chair on each side to stabilize themselves.

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