Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Well today i was in alot of pain. i have ostoporosis. My bones are very brittle.I wish that there was something that could help me like a healing process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 markee_bern: <<Well today i was in alot of pain. i have ostoporosis. My bones are very brittle.I wish that there was something that could help me like a healing process.>> It's important to take Vit. D supplements for most people in the N. hemisphere (at least 1,000mg/day). It acts as a hormone in the body affecting all cells. There is more and more research coming out every day about the importance of Vit. D. Supplementation would be especially important to prevent osteoporosis (or if you already have it). Do you have Donna Eden's " Energy Medicine " book or " Energy Medicine " kit (www.innersource.net)? I highly recommend both for any one interested in healing techniques. Good for osteoporosis: Do any exercises that stretch or cross over the body. Isometric and stretching exercises done 10 minutes per day can prevent bone loss. One such exercise is to hold hands straight down at sides and push down while twisting hands back and around with stretch and pressure. Twisting the forearms gives energy to the bones there, and also shoots energy to all bones in the body. If you get Donna's book, you can learn more about acupressure strengthening and sedating points. Kidney and Bladder meridians (Water element) are most affected in bone issues. Strengthen or flush Kidney and sedate Bladder daily (of course, it's best to energy test first and see what each individual body needs but those are the usual). Healing blessings, MichelleH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I agree with you that vit D supplementation can be important. However, 1000 mg/day sounds like a lot unless blood levels are monitored carefully. Vit D is fat soluble. If you don’t know you need that much your liver might be unhappy with a dose that high and that frequent. Judith On Behalf Of Michelle Hughes Monday, February 11, 2008 2:16 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me markee_bern: <<Well today i was in alot of pain. i have ostoporosis. My bones are very brittle.I wish that there was something that could help me like a healing process.>> It's important to take Vit. D supplements for most people in the N. hemisphere (at least 1,000mg/day). It acts as a hormone in the body affecting all cells. There is more and more research coming out every day about the importance of Vit. D. Supplementation would be especially important to prevent osteoporosis (or if you already have it). Do you have Donna Eden's " Energy Medicine " book or " Energy Medicine " kit (www.innersource.net)? I highly recommend both for any one interested in healing techniques. Good for osteoporosis: Do any exercises that stretch or cross over the body. Isometric and stretching exercises done 10 minutes per day can prevent bone loss. One such exercise is to hold hands straight down at sides and push down while twisting hands back and around with stretch and pressure. Twisting the forearms gives energy to the bones there, and also shoots energy to all bones in the body. If you get Donna's book, you can learn more about acupressure strengthening and sedating points. Kidney and Bladder meridians (Water element) are most affected in bone issues. Strengthen or flush Kidney and sedate Bladder daily (of course, it's best to energy test first and see what each individual body needs but those are the usual). Healing blessings, MichelleH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 there's an interesting article in Woman's Day about Vitamin D and blood sugar levels and fat loss. One of the medical Dr's cited is trying to get the recommended daily allowance raised to 4,000 mg a day. Check with your Dr., of course, however learn to energy test what and how much you should take of certain substances. Also, after the initial dosages, test again to see if the same is needed for maintainence of the effects or perhaps a lower dosage. I did energy test some 1,000 mg vit. D tablets, and they did test strong for me personally, so I bought them. Real cheap at Walmart. Judith Poole Feb 11, 2008 7:30 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me I agree with you that vit D supplementation can be important. However, 1000 mg/day sounds like a lot unless blood levels are monitored carefully. Vit D is fat soluble. If you don’t know you need that much your liver might be unhappy with a dose that high and that frequent. Judith On Behalf Of Michelle HughesMonday, February 11, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: RE: I wish that there was something that could help me markee_bern: <<Well today i was in alot of pain. i have ostoporosis. Mybones are very brittle.I wish that there was something that could help melike a healing process.>>It's important to take Vit. D supplements for most people in the N.hemisphere (at least 1,000mg/day). It acts as a hormone in the bodyaffecting all cells. There is more and more research coming out every dayabout the importance of Vit. D. Supplementation would be especiallyimportant to prevent osteoporosis (or if you already have it).Do you have Donna Eden's "Energy Medicine" book or "Energy Medicine" kit(www.innersource.net)? I highly recommend both for any one interested inhealing techniques.Good for osteoporosis:Do any exercises that stretch or cross over the body. Isometric andstretching exercises done 10 minutes per day can prevent bone loss. Onesuch exercise is to hold hands straight down at sides and push down whiletwisting hands back and around with stretch and pressure. Twisting theforearms gives energy to the bones there, and also shoots energy to allbones in the body.If you get Donna's book, you can learn more about acupressure strengtheningand sedating points. Kidney and Bladder meridians (Water element) are mostaffected in bone issues. Strengthen or flush Kidney and sedate Bladderdaily (of course, it's best to energy test first and see what eachindividual body needs but those are the usual).Healing blessings,MichelleH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 , " Judith Poole " <judith.poole wrote: Dr. wont give me vitamin D.Says i dont need it. I take silver centrum and Caltrate 600+d everyday. he said my bones are very brittle and to watch how i move around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 <<I agree with you that vit D supplementation can be important. However, 1000 mg/day sounds like a lot unless blood levels are monitored carefully. Vit D is fat soluble. If you don't know you need that much your liver might be unhappy with a dose that high and that frequent. Judith>> Hi Judith, 1,000mg a day is recommended currently by Dr. Mehmet Oz and Dr. Andrew Weil. Link to Dr. Oz's recommendation when he was recently on Oprah: http://www.oprah.com/health/oz/slide/20080205/oz_20080205_350_117.jhtml And Dr. Weil was recently on CNN (Dr. Sanjay Gupta's Chasing Life http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/chasing.life) stating he wouldn't be surprised within a year if he didn't increase his current recommendation of 1,000mg Vit. D supplementation a day to 2,000mg. Weil has said (see below for more info): " Don't be concerned that 1,000 IU will give you too much vitamin D - exposure to sunlight in the summer can generate between 10,000 and 20,000 IU of vitamin D per day with no ill effects. What's more, no adverse effects have been seen with supplemental vitamin D intakes up to 10,000 IU daily. " Many blessings, MichelleH **************** From 9/22/2005: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QA/QA358211/ <http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QA/QA358211/> Q Getting Enough Vitamin D? I've heard that you're changing your vitamin D recommendation. Why? And how much do you now recommend? A Answer (Published 9/22/2005) Orginally Published 3/8/2005 Yes, I am raising my recommendation for vitamin D from 400 IU to 1,000 IU per day. That may sound like quite a leap, but evidence has been accumulating to suggest that the 400 IU now recommended for adults isn't enough for optimum health. We need vitamin D to facilitate calcium absorption and to promote bone mineralization as well as for protection from a number of serious diseases. I recently reviewed a series of studies on vitamin D and bone health with Walter Willett, MD, professor of epidemiology and medicine at Harvard Medical School. Dr. Willett has assembled a compelling review of clinical evidence suggesting that current vitamin D recommendations, including my own, are too low. To sum up, most adults are simply not getting enough vitamin D for good bone health. We get vitamin D from such foods as fortified milk and cereals as well as from eggs, salmon, tuna, mackerel and sardines, and our bodies make vitamin D with exposure to sunlight. Unfortunately, many people don't spend enough time in the sun to get optimal exposure, particularly in northern latitudes during the gray winter months. In addition, sunscreen blocks vitamin D synthesis in the skin, and dermatologists have made people so paranoid about sun exposure that many people in lower latitudes and in summer don't get enough either. And, clearly, many people are falling short of their vitamin D needs. A study published in the February 2001 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition showed that even while taking a 1,000 IU supplement, fewer than half of the participants in a Canadian study were getting enough to achieve optimal blood levels of vitamin D. And research published in the January 2003 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition showed that 1,700 IU was needed to bring blood levels of vitamin D to optimal levels during winter months in Nebraska. Dr. Willett told me that other studies have shown that an intake of 400 IU of vitamin D per day has no impact on the risk of fractures, but that 700 to 800 IU per day, with or without calcium supplements, does seem to reduce fracture incidence. He noted that some evidence further suggests that a higher intake of vitamin D may reduce the risk of prostate cancer, colon cancer, other malignancies, and multiple sclerosis. Don't be concerned that 1,000 IU will give you too much vitamin D - exposure to sunlight in the summer can generate between 10,000 and 20,000 IU of vitamin D per day with no ill effects. What's more, no adverse effects have been seen with supplemental vitamin D intakes up to 10,000 IU daily. Increasing my vitamin D recommendation to 1,000 IU daily may not be the last word on this subject. Depending on the amount of sunshine available where you live, you may need to take even more. Stay tuned. Andrew Weil, M.D. From http://www.cancer.ca/ccs/internet/mediareleaselist/0,3208,3172_1613121606_19 97621989_langId-en,00.html ---------- ---- New recommendations from the Canadian Cancer Society regarding vitamin D and its powerful protective effects against a number of diseases such as breast, colo-rectal and other cancers saying that studies indicate that women who take at least 1100 IU of vitamin D cut their risk for these cancer by 60%... Canadian Cancer Society Announces Vitamin D Recommendation 08 June 2007 TORONTO - The Canadian Cancer Society is recommending a specific amount of Vitamin D supplementation for Canadians to consider taking. This first-time recommendation is based on the growing body of evidence about the link between Vitamin D and reducing risk for colorectal, breast and prostate cancers. " The evidence is still growing in this area, but we want to give guidance to Canadians about this emerging area of cancer prevention based on what we know now, " says Heather Logan, Director, Cancer Control Policy, Canadian Cancer Society. " As we find out more we will update our recommendation. " In consultation with their healthcare provider, the Society is recommending that: .. Adults living in Canada should consider taking Vitamin D supplementation of 1,000 international units (IU) a day during the fall and winter. .. Adults at higher risk of having lower Vitamin D levels should consider taking Vitamin D supplementation of 1,000 IU/day all year round. This includes people: .. who are older; .. with dark skin; .. who don't go outside often, and .. who wear clothing that covers most of their skin. " We're recommending 1,000 IUs daily because the current evidence suggests this amount will help reduce cancer risk with the least potential for harm, " says Logan. " More research is needed to clearly define the amount of Vitamin D that will maximize health benefits. " Logan explains that Canada's geographic location was a strong factor in the Society's decision making about the recommendation. " Where a person lives is one important factor in how much Vitamin D they can produce from the sun. Because of our country's northern latitude, the sun's rays are weaker in the fall and winter and Canadians don't produce enough Vitamin D from sunlight during this time. " Research findings announced today add to the mounting evidence in this area. A study published in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that taking Vitamin D supplements and calcium substantially reduces all-cancer risk in post menopausal women. Specifically, the researchers found that the higher the levels of Vitamin D in the blood, the lower the relative risk of developing cancer. As well, another study released in May, suggests that women who consume more calcium and vitamin D may be less likely to develop breast cancer before menopause. In addition to taking supplements, people can get Vitamin D by exposure to the sunlight and in their diets. However, Logan cautions Canadians about relying too much on getting Vitamin D through exposure to sunlight. " It's important to remember that a few minutes a day of unprotected sun exposure is usually all that is needed for some people to get enough Vitamin D, " says Logan. " It's not a good idea to rely solely on the sun to obtain Vitamin D. For some people, it's possible that just a few minutes of unprotected sun exposure every day could increase skin cancer risk. " Logan says a large-scale clinical trial would help provide more answers about the amount of Vitamin D needed to maximize health benefits, and the long-term risks, if any, of taking large doses of the vitamin. " The Canadian Cancer Society is looking seriously at what we can do to make this research happen. We will also be talking to our partners about this. We need to keep building on our knowledge about this important area of cancer prevention. " More research is also needed about the amount of sunlight exposure needed to achieve the optimum Vitamin D level. The Society is not changing its SunSense guidelines, as skin cancer is the most frequently diagnosed cancer in Canada. The Society recommends that people reduce their exposure to the sun, particularly between 11 a.m. and 4 p.m. when the sun's rays are the strongest. Use a sunscreen with a sun protection factor (SPF) 15 or higher and SPF 30 if you work outdoors or if you will be outside for most of the day. At this time, the Canadian Cancer Society does not have a recommendation for Vitamin D supplementation for children. The research to date about the role of Vitamin D and cancer prevention has focused on adults. The Canadian Dermatology Association recently updated its recommendations about Vitamin D supplementation. The association's website says: " In order to lessen the health risks associated with skin cancer yet still reap the known and possible benefits of Vitamin D levels take 1,000 international units of Vitamin D supplements a day. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 My naturopath recommended, based on studies she had been reading, 10,000 IU of D per day…. On Behalf Of Judith Poole Monday, February 11, 2008 4:30 PM To: RE: I wish that there was something that could help me I agree with you that vit D supplementation can be important. However, 1000 mg/day sounds like a lot unless blood levels are monitored carefully. Vit D is fat soluble. If you don’t know you need that much your liver might be unhappy with a dose that high and that frequent. Judith On Behalf Of Michelle Hughes Monday, February 11, 2008 2:16 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me markee_bern: <<Well today i was in alot of pain. i have ostoporosis. My bones are very brittle.I wish that there was something that could help me like a healing process.>> It's important to take Vit. D supplements for most people in the N. hemisphere (at least 1,000mg/day). It acts as a hormone in the body affecting all cells. There is more and more research coming out every day about the importance of Vit. D. Supplementation would be especially important to prevent osteoporosis (or if you already have it). Do you have Donna Eden's " Energy Medicine " book or " Energy Medicine " kit (www.innersource.net)? I highly recommend both for any one interested in healing techniques. Good for osteoporosis: Do any exercises that stretch or cross over the body. Isometric and stretching exercises done 10 minutes per day can prevent bone loss. One such exercise is to hold hands straight down at sides and push down while twisting hands back and around with stretch and pressure. Twisting the forearms gives energy to the bones there, and also shoots energy to all bones in the body. If you get Donna's book, you can learn more about acupressure strengthening and sedating points. Kidney and Bladder meridians (Water element) are most affected in bone issues. Strengthen or flush Kidney and sedate Bladder daily (of course, it's best to energy test first and see what each individual body needs but those are the usual). Healing blessings, MichelleH Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release 2/11/2008 8:16 AM Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release 2/11/2008 8:16 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Also to followup regarding Vit. D supplementation, Vit. D3 (cholecalciferol) is supposed to be the best form. And, of course, if you know how to energy test, it's always best to test to see if you need more Vitamin D!!! Every one is individual Many blessings, MichelleH ________________________________ I agree with you that vit D supplementation can be important. However, 1000 mg/day sounds like a lot unless blood levels are monitored carefully. Vit D is fat soluble. If you don't know you need that much your liver might be unhappy with a dose that high and that frequent. Judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 markee_bern: <<Dr. wont give me vitamin D.Says i dont need it. I take silver centrum and Caltrate 600+d everyday. he said my bones are very brittle and to watch how i move around>> Has you doctor **actually** had your blood tested for Vit. D levels???? There is a specific lab test for it and you have the right to request it (and should if you have osteo). Considering you have osteo, I find it very hard to believe that you are not deficient in Vit. D. The first time I visited my great new doctor and told her my symptoms of fatigue, etc., she immediately recommended I run across the street to the hospital pharmacy and get 5,000mg that they carry there for her women patients. And she ordered up the Vit. D lab test which later did confirm I was deficient. I now take the 5,000mg/day. No problems with " overdosing " here! Many blessings, MichelleH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Vitamin D deficiency can contribute to osteoporosis. Check the web. Also check www.alsearsmd.com He has lots of info about supplements. Just be aware that some of what he recommends he is also selling on a related site. What many MDs know about nutrition can be frightening. I wish medical schools would have at least one thorough course on nutrition and what can happen when you don't get enough of a particular vitamin/mineral, etc. Mary Nelson http://www.eft4everyone.com - " markee_bern " <markee_bern Monday, February 11, 2008 6:17 PM Re: I wish that there was something that could help me : , " Judith Poole " : <judith.poole wrote: : : Dr. wont give me vitamin D.Says i dont need it. I take silver centrum : and Caltrate 600+d everyday. he said my bones are very brittle and to : watch how i move around : : : : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Good information from everyone. I've read many different opinions on the cause of " brittle bones " . Even with a well educated and motivated physician and a comprehensive insurance plan, one still needs to be their own best advocate. Fortunately there is an abundance of information available. Unfortunately what helps one person may not be the best answer for another. You said " Dr. wont give me vitamin D.Says i dont need it. " Is this his opinion or did he test you to see? Or is it because the two supplements you're now taking both contain Vit. D. (Some of these don't dissolve well so I prefer taking a supplement in a soft form.) Are you taking anything else that would make supplementing with Vit.D inadvisable? These are some of the questions to ask before proceeding. As Doc asked: " What are you doing...now? " We really don't have enough information to make anything but general observations. The archives of this group have a lot of information that may help. Donna Eden's book, Energy Medicine, does too, it even has a chapter on pain management. By the way keep in mind that many physicians have had very little nutritional education and even less interest in keeping up with the latest research in this area let alone alternative therapies. Luckily my doctor doesn't get offended when I take in copies of what I've found. He even reads it. Hope you find the answers you're looking for soon, barb(bbtried) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008  Jim, Vitamin D3 is supposed to be the best. I order Now Foods D3 from www.iherb.com at a good price. I combine supplement orders so shipping is lower. Don't know specifically what Wal-Mart sells. My own doctor is a vegetarian yet he doesn't supplement B12 which is available for vegans. Most multis don't have much B12. Doctors don't have all the answers. I attempt to get information on various supplements, then use my own judgment and testing on what to take and when. Mary Nelsonhttp://www.eft4everyone.com - James R. Knippenberg Monday, February 11, 2008 6:05 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me there's an interesting article in Woman's Day about Vitamin D and blood sugar levels and fat loss. One of the medical Dr's cited is trying to get the recommended daily allowance raised to 4,000 mg a day. Check with your Dr., of course, however learn to energy test what and how much you should take of certain substances. Also, after the initial dosages, test again to see if the same is needed for maintainence of the effects or perhaps a lower dosage. I did energy test some 1,000 mg vit. D tablets, and they did test strong for me personally, so I bought them. Real cheap at Walmart. Judith Poole Feb 11, 2008 7:30 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me I agree with you that vit D supplementation can be important. However, 1000 mg/day sounds like a lot unless blood levels are monitored carefully. Vit D is fat soluble. If you don’t know you need that much your liver might be unhappy with a dose that high and that frequent. Judith On Behalf Of Michelle HughesMonday, February 11, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: RE: I wish that there was something that could help me markee_bern: <<Well today i was in alot of pain. i have ostoporosis. Mybones are very brittle.I wish that there was something that could help melike a healing process.>>It's important to take Vit. D supplements for most people in the N.hemisphere (at least 1,000mg/day). It acts as a hormone in the bodyaffecting all cells. There is more and more research coming out every dayabout the importance of Vit. D. Supplementation would be especiallyimportant to prevent osteoporosis (or if you already have it).Do you have Donna Eden's "Energy Medicine" book or "Energy Medicine" kit(www.innersource.net)? I highly recommend both for any one interested inhealing techniques.Good for osteoporosis:Do any exercises that stretch or cross over the body. Isometric andstretching exercises done 10 minutes per day can prevent bone loss. Onesuch exercise is to hold hands straight down at sides and push down whiletwisting hands back and around with stretch and pressure. Twisting theforearms gives energy to the bones there, and also shoots energy to allbones in the body.If you get Donna's book, you can learn more about acupressure strengtheningand sedating points. Kidney and Bladder meridians (Water element) are mostaffected in bone issues. Strengthen or flush Kidney and sedate Bladderdaily (of course, it's best to energy test first and see what eachindividual body needs but those are the usual).Healing blessings,MichelleH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 This link is to the NIH info on vitamin D. Down near the bottom of the page is information relating to osteoporosis, rickets and one other also related to bones. They say the maximum recommended dosage is 2,000 IU per day. Further up the page they say 800 IU. It looks like 1,000 IU daily is certainly in the ballpark. Mary Nelson http://www.eft4everyone.com http://dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp - " Michelle Hughes " <lunarmm Monday, February 11, 2008 6:25 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me : <<I agree with you that vit D supplementation can be important. However, : 1000 mg/day sounds like a lot unless blood levels are monitored carefully. : Vit D is fat soluble. If you don't know you need that much your liver might : be unhappy with a dose that high and that frequent. Judith>> : : Hi Judith, : : 1,000mg a day is recommended currently by Dr. Mehmet Oz and Dr. Andrew Weil. : : Link to Dr. Oz's recommendation when he was recently on Oprah: : http://www.oprah.com/health/oz/slide/20080205/oz_20080205_350_117.jhtml : And Dr. Weil was recently on CNN (Dr. Sanjay Gupta's Chasing Life : http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/chasing.life) stating he wouldn't be : surprised within a year if he didn't increase his current recommendation of : 1,000mg Vit. D supplementation a day to 2,000mg. : : Weil has said (see below for more info): " Don't be concerned that 1,000 IU : will give you too much vitamin D - exposure to sunlight in the summer can : generate between 10,000 and 20,000 IU of vitamin D per day with no ill : effects. What's more, no adverse effects have been seen with supplemental : vitamin D intakes up to 10,000 IU daily. " : : Many blessings, : MichelleH : : : **************** : : From 9/22/2005: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QA/QA358211/ : <http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QA/QA358211/> : : Q Getting Enough Vitamin D? I've heard that you're changing your vitamin D : recommendation. Why? And how much do you now recommend? : : A Answer (Published 9/22/2005) Orginally Published 3/8/2005 : : Yes, I am raising my recommendation for vitamin D from 400 IU to 1,000 IU : per day. That may sound like quite a leap, but evidence has been : accumulating to suggest that the 400 IU now recommended for adults isn't : enough for optimum health. We need vitamin D to facilitate calcium : absorption and to promote bone mineralization as well as for protection from : a number of serious diseases. I recently reviewed a series of studies on : vitamin D and bone health with Walter Willett, MD, professor of epidemiology : and medicine at Harvard Medical School. Dr. Willett has assembled a : compelling review of clinical evidence suggesting that current vitamin D : recommendations, including my own, are too low. : : To sum up, most adults are simply not getting enough vitamin D for good bone : health. We get vitamin D from such foods as fortified milk and cereals as : well as from eggs, salmon, tuna, mackerel and sardines, and our bodies make : vitamin D with exposure to sunlight. Unfortunately, many people don't spend : enough time in the sun to get optimal exposure, particularly in northern : latitudes during the gray winter months. In addition, sunscreen blocks : vitamin D synthesis in the skin, and dermatologists have made people so : paranoid about sun exposure that many people in lower latitudes and in : summer don't get enough either. : : And, clearly, many people are falling short of their vitamin D needs. A : study published in the February 2001 issue of the American Journal of : Clinical Nutrition showed that even while taking a 1,000 IU supplement, : fewer than half of the participants in a Canadian study were getting enough : to achieve optimal blood levels of vitamin D. And research published in the : January 2003 issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition showed that : 1,700 IU was needed to bring blood levels of vitamin D to optimal levels : during winter months in Nebraska. Dr. Willett told me that other studies : have shown that an intake of 400 IU of vitamin D per day has no impact on : the risk of fractures, but that 700 to 800 IU per day, with or without : calcium supplements, does seem to reduce fracture incidence. He noted that : some evidence further suggests that a higher intake of vitamin D may reduce : the risk of prostate cancer, colon cancer, other malignancies, and multiple : sclerosis. : : Don't be concerned that 1,000 IU will give you too much vitamin D - exposure : to sunlight in the summer can generate between 10,000 and 20,000 IU of : vitamin D per day with no ill effects. What's more, no adverse effects have : been seen with supplemental vitamin D intakes up to 10,000 IU daily. : : Increasing my vitamin D recommendation to 1,000 IU daily may not be the last : word on this subject. Depending on the amount of sunshine available where : you live, you may need to take even more. Stay tuned. : : Andrew Weil, M.D. : : From : http://www.cancer.ca/ccs/internet/mediareleaselist/0,3208,3172_1613121606_19 : 97621989_langId-en,00.html : ---------- : ---- : : New recommendations from the Canadian Cancer Society regarding vitamin D and : its powerful protective effects against a number of diseases such as breast, : colo-rectal and other cancers saying that studies indicate that women who : take at least 1100 IU of vitamin D cut their risk for these cancer by 60%... : : Canadian Cancer Society Announces Vitamin D Recommendation : 08 June 2007 : : TORONTO - The Canadian Cancer Society is recommending a specific amount of : Vitamin D supplementation for Canadians to consider taking. This first-time : recommendation is based on the growing body of evidence about the link : between Vitamin D and reducing risk for colorectal, breast and prostate : cancers. : : " The evidence is still growing in this area, but we want to give guidance to : Canadians about this emerging area of cancer prevention based on what we : know now, " says Heather Logan, Director, Cancer Control Policy, Canadian : Cancer Society. " As we find out more we will update our recommendation. " : : In consultation with their healthcare provider, the Society is recommending : that: : . Adults living in Canada should consider taking Vitamin D supplementation : of 1,000 international units (IU) a day during the fall and winter. : . Adults at higher risk of having lower Vitamin D levels should consider : taking Vitamin D supplementation of 1,000 IU/day all year round. This : includes people: : . who are older; : . with dark skin; : . who don't go outside often, and : . who wear clothing that covers most of their skin. : : " We're recommending 1,000 IUs daily because the current evidence suggests : this amount will help reduce cancer risk with the least potential for harm, " : says Logan. " More research is needed to clearly define the amount of Vitamin : D that will maximize health benefits. " : : Logan explains that Canada's geographic location was a strong factor in the : Society's decision making about the recommendation. : : " Where a person lives is one important factor in how much Vitamin D they can : produce from the sun. Because of our country's northern latitude, the sun's : rays are weaker in the fall and winter and Canadians don't produce enough : Vitamin D from sunlight during this time. " : : Research findings announced today add to the mounting evidence in this area. : A study published in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that : taking Vitamin D supplements and calcium substantially reduces all-cancer : risk in post menopausal women. Specifically, the researchers found that the : higher the levels of Vitamin D in the blood, the lower the relative risk of : developing cancer. As well, another study released in May, suggests that : women who consume more calcium and vitamin D may be less likely to develop : breast cancer before menopause. : : In addition to taking supplements, people can get Vitamin D by exposure to : the sunlight and in their diets. However, Logan cautions Canadians about : relying too much on getting Vitamin D through exposure to sunlight. : : " It's important to remember that a few minutes a day of unprotected sun : exposure is usually all that is needed for some people to get enough Vitamin : D, " says Logan. " It's not a good idea to rely solely on the sun to obtain : Vitamin D. For some people, it's possible that just a few minutes of : unprotected sun exposure every day could increase skin cancer risk. " : : Logan says a large-scale clinical trial would help provide more answers : about the amount of Vitamin D needed to maximize health benefits, and the : long-term risks, if any, of taking large doses of the vitamin. : : " The Canadian Cancer Society is looking seriously at what we can do to make : this research happen. We will also be talking to our partners about this. We : need to keep building on our knowledge about this important area of cancer :prevention. " : : More research is also needed about the amount of sunlight exposure needed to : achieve the optimum Vitamin D level. : : The Society is not changing its SunSense guidelines, as skin cancer is the : most frequently diagnosed cancer in Canada. The Society recommends that : people reduce their exposure to the sun, particularly between 11 a.m. and 4 : p.m. when the sun's rays are the strongest. Use a sunscreen with a sun : protection factor (SPF) 15 or higher and SPF 30 if you work outdoors or if : you will be outside for most of the day. : : At this time, the Canadian Cancer Society does not have a recommendation for : Vitamin D supplementation for children. The research to date about the role : of Vitamin D and cancer prevention has focused on adults. : : The Canadian Dermatology Association recently updated its recommendations : about Vitamin D supplementation. The association's website says: " In order : to lessen the health risks associated with skin cancer yet still reap the : known and possible benefits of Vitamin D levels take 1,000 international : units of Vitamin D supplements a day. " : : : : : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Still I’d say – muscle test and monitor carefully. None of us is average, none of us is “everyone else”. Judith On Behalf Of Weisha Mize Monday, February 11, 2008 9:36 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me My naturopath recommended, based on studies she had been reading, 10,000 IU of D per day…. On Behalf Of Judith Poole Monday, February 11, 2008 4:30 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me I agree with you that vit D supplementation can be important. However, 1000 mg/day sounds like a lot unless blood levels are monitored carefully. Vit D is fat soluble. If you don’t know you need that much your liver might be unhappy with a dose that high and that frequent. Judith On Behalf Of Michelle Hughes Monday, February 11, 2008 2:16 PM RE: I wish that there was something that could help me markee_bern: <<Well today i was in alot of pain. i have ostoporosis. My bones are very brittle.I wish that there was something that could help me like a healing process.>> It's important to take Vit. D supplements for most people in the N. hemisphere (at least 1,000mg/day). It acts as a hormone in the body affecting all cells. There is more and more research coming out every day about the importance of Vit. D. Supplementation would be especially important to prevent osteoporosis (or if you already have it). Do you have Donna Eden's " Energy Medicine " book or " Energy Medicine " kit (www.innersource.net)? I highly recommend both for any one interested in healing techniques. Good for osteoporosis: Do any exercises that stretch or cross over the body. Isometric and stretching exercises done 10 minutes per day can prevent bone loss. One such exercise is to hold hands straight down at sides and push down while twisting hands back and around with stretch and pressure. Twisting the forearms gives energy to the bones there, and also shoots energy to all bones in the body. If you get Donna's book, you can learn more about acupressure strengthening and sedating points. Kidney and Bladder meridians (Water element) are most affected in bone issues. Strengthen or flush Kidney and sedate Bladder daily (of course, it's best to energy test first and see what each individual body needs but those are the usual). Healing blessings, MichelleH Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release 2/11/2008 8:16 AM Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release 2/11/2008 8:16 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 You can always change Doctors and/or you can bring articles supporting need for vitamin D with you as well. But if your doctor is not responding to your needs you are not beholden to him/her. Judith On Behalf Of markee_bern Monday, February 11, 2008 9:17 PM Re: I wish that there was something that could help me Dr. wont give me vitamin D.Says i dont need it. I take silver centrum and Caltrate 600+d everyday. he said my bones are very brittle and to watch how i move around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 10 minutes in the sun gives you a daily dose. Go out in the sun when your shadow is long.Walking every day in the sun will help. "banging' on your bones re- aligns the electromagnetic charge in your bones. (I read a great study about this in Science News years ago) One activity - two or more benefits!That is why resistance training always makes your bones stronger. Your bones are constantly 'remodeling' - so you can make your bones stronger using all these great suggestions.There is a good book FrameWorkhttp://www.frameworkprogram.com/uof/frameworkprogram/index.htmlHe was on one of those PBS specials (Mary and I seem to watch them all!) --really good. He is one of the MD's who is an Energy Medicine convert....I'm 55 and I've been hiking, using weights and doing exercise classes for about 25 years. My bone density is the same as a 32 year old woman -- so it does work!! (although my joints are not!)If you do all of these suggestions -- you should experience a great benefit :)Helen Helen Driscoll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 hi my name is larry. this is in response to the bone problem. there is a machine that my homeopath uses. the web site is. http://www.kuantumpower.com/aboutproduct.aspx (i hope its ok to post it here) anyway this machine is amazing. maybe email this guy & ask where there is a practitioner near you that uses this machine. or google epfx & your area, you may find someone. good luck lar , Helen Driscoll <helen wrote: > > 10 minutes in the sun gives you a daily dose. Go out in the sun when > your shadow is long. > > Walking every day in the sun will help. " banging' on your bones re- > aligns the electromagnetic charge in your bones. (I read a great > study about this in Science News years ago) One activity - two or > more benefits! > > That is why resistance training always makes your bones stronger. > > Your bones are constantly 'remodeling' - so you can make your bones > stronger using all these great suggestions. > > There is a good book FrameWork > http://www.frameworkprogram.com/uof/frameworkprogram/index.html > > He was on one of those PBS specials (Mary and I seem to watch them > all!) --really good. > > He is one of the MD's who is an Energy Medicine convert.... > > I'm 55 and I've been hiking, using weights and doing exercise classes > for about 25 years. My bone density is the same as a 32 year old > woman -- so it does work!! (although my joints are not!) > > If you do all of these suggestions -- you should experience a great > benefit > > > Helen > > > Helen Driscoll > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 >he said my bones are very > brittle and to watch how i move around>> > - This arrived in my mailbox in the same delivery as your post so it might be a bit of serendipity. It's from my Daily Dao newsletter. rusty - Day 44 STRETCHING When young, things are soft. When old, things are brittle. Stretching -- both literally and metaphorically -- is a necessary part of life. Physically, a good program of stretching emphasizes all parts of the body. You loosen the joints and tendons first, so that subsequent movements will not hurt. Then methodically stretch the body, beginning with the larger muscle groups such as the legs and back, and proceed to finer and smaller parts like the fingers. Coordinate stretching with breathing; use long and gentle stretches rather than bouncing ones. When you stretch in one direction, always be sure to stretch in the opposite direction as well. If you follow this procedure, your flexibility will undoubtedly increase. Metaphorical stretching leads to expansion and flexibility in personal growth. A young plant is tender and pliant. An older is stiff, woody, and vulnerable to breaking. Softness is thus equated with life, hardness with death. The more flexible you are, the greater your mental and physical health. 365 Tao: Daily Meditations Deng Ming-Dao ISBN 0-06-250223-9 http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/vortex/401/library/365/365date.htm > markee_bern: <<Dr. wont give me vitamin D.Says i dont need it. I take > silver centrum and Caltrate 600+d everyday. he said my bones are very > brittle and to watch how i move around>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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