It's about Doc feeling superior to all others & kissing his ass

[Guest guest]

, " alison "

<aowalison wrote:

 

> (This person is no longer with us, but I am curious to what you

think of her direct attack? Moderator)

 

> You know I'm new to this group, but I'm leaving because I thought it

>it was a massage board about energy healing but it's not. It's about

>Doc feeling superior to all others and about people kissing his XXX.

>Doc, you can use your element as an excuse for your behavior but all

>you end up with is excuses. For all the elevated thought process

>going on here, it sure sounds like high school to me.

> Alison

 

Well Moderator,

 

That she did turn into a she-bitch is obviously a Wood/Earth elment

characteristic caused by some type of defensive phobia against sweet

huggy feely people like me.

 

She did join on Feb 27 and has posted twice besides this one. She

seems a nice person and not at all like the one that just posted.

 

So, who is the real Alison? What triggered her emotional outburst,

name calling and attack behavior?

 

I personally think that she has " old " and not yet worked out

successfully psychological trauma and issues with an ex-husband (or

the current one) that has strong Wood or Metal characteristics.

 

So my post, even though very respectful and precise did " push her

buttons " .

 

I wonder how much better it would have been for her if she'd taken a

different approach and gave her own reasons for doing what she does

and teaching what she teaches (I'm pretty sure she doesn't teach)?

 

I love people like that.

 

You just excommunicate them and let them go and crap in someone

else's stew.

 

Thank you moderator for posting her attack.

 

I needed to read that first thing this morning.

 

(I know it's not morning but I do get up late. My new book will be in

the MEMBER'S SECTION of the www.mentaltrainingsecrets.com site by

tomorrow evening. Sorry for the short delay. My own intensive took a

week, then a week with a sick daughter, got back one day, and then

Mommy died and we had to go to the Canadian border and take care of

her " affairs " . It's been a very interesting month)

 

 

 

> , " darthon4 "

> <darthon4@> wrote:

> >

> > Doc and all,

> >

> > I think that it's important for a person to have the prerequisites

> and preparation. I don't think it's absolutely necessary to have a

> trainer to get it if, for instance, you stick with the Energy

Medicine book which is user friendly regardless of experience. Though

I am extremely thankful that I have trainers and a network of people

I can communicate with on some of the more advanced material not

found in the book.

 

> > For example, in my case with working with source points, because I

> had the prerequisites and some experience, and I had been training

with Doc and others experienced in EM, " feedback " , I knew right away

what caused the pain in my leg and knew exactly what I needed to do to

> > clear it out of my leg right away so I could walk again.

 

> > As for the " earned " and " deserved " .....my primary element is

Metal, need I say more? And I think Mike did a great job of summing

it up.

 

> > For me a small nudge of information, a single keyword, is all

that's needed for that transderivational search to begin. The

process of searching for the answer is invaluable and enjoyable for

me! I learn much more that way, and gain a lot of other platinum

nuggets along the way I never would have expected or intentionally

looked for.

 

> > For me the answer is the journey.

 

> > Lori

 

> > healingenergies-

> essentialskills , " docspeed2001 "

> > <docspeed2001@> wrote:

> > >

> > > A couple of my friends who are taking the Eden Practitioner's

> > > training with xxx asked me " Why is xxxxxxxxx giving out all that

> > > information on a group that is open to the public, a public that

> has had no training, has not gone to the seminars, has not spent

> their own money, and have not learned all the pre-requisites,

> especially the necessary verification processes and drills to

enhance their skills? "

 

> > > I told them, " I'll ask her " .

 

> > > Their concern was several fold:

 

> > > 1. Without the " experience " they cannot get it right

 

> > > 2. Which does cause them to hallucinate skill and knowledge when

> > > there is none

 

> > > 3. Without the " feedback " from trainers they'll never know if

> they are doing it right or wrong

 

> > > 4. Then of course there is the " earned " factor, which few on

this list and most lists (including my own 4 lists) have

 

> > > 5. Then of course there is the " deserved " factor, which is

> closely related to the " earned " factor

 

> > > 6. And I really do love the Donna Eden materials and I love them

> > > being taught and processed in a manner that is benificial to all

 

> > > Anyway, I decided to post this post openly (it was originally a

> > > private post) with all names removed just out of curiosity to

> find out what this list thinks, wishes and believes.

 

> > > And I know it makes me the " bad guy " , but since I'm a Wood/Metal

> this post is in line with my values and criteria...

 

> > > ...which means that to me the above is a great, high quality

post.

 

> > >

[Guest guest]

" New book " , " Members Section " ??? Did I fall asleep and

miss something?

[Guest guest]

I don't know if you all know me, or if I even introduced myself as of yet. My name is Kristy Blair and I live in Washington state. I am diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder/Depression. I have been on couple of groups and fell out with each one due to religious topics. So that is that. I joined this group hoping to get insight on how to help myself think differently. It is hard. I see a lot of healings by hands here and forgive me, some of the terminology confuses me also. So, overlook me, I'm new and trying to learn what you guys are talking about. I hope to learn more soon. Kristy Blair

 

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docspeed2001

Monday, March 03, 2008 2:34 PM

It's about Doc feeling superior to all others & kissing his ass

 

 

, "alison" <aowalison wrote:> (This person is no longer with us, but I am curious to what you think of her direct attack? Moderator)> You know I'm new to this group, but I'm leaving because I thought it>it was a massage board about energy healing but it's not. It's about >Doc feeling superior to all others and about people kissing his XXX. >Doc, you can use your element as an excuse for your behavior but all >you end up with is excuses. For all the elevated thought process >going on here, it sure sounds like high school to me.> AlisonWell Moderator,That she did turn into a she-bitch is obviously a Wood/Earth elment characteristic caused by some type of defensive phobia against sweet huggy feely people like me. She did join on Feb 27 and has posted twice besides this one. She seems a nice person and not at all like the one that just posted.So, who is the real Alison? What triggered her emotional outburst, name calling and attack behavior?I personally think that she has "old" and not yet worked out successfully psychological trauma and issues with an ex-husband (or the current one) that has strong Wood or Metal characteristics.So my post, even though very respectful and precise did "push her buttons".I wonder how much better it would have been for her if she'd taken a different approach and gave her own reasons for doing what she does and teaching what she teaches (I'm pretty sure she doesn't teach)?I love people like that.You just excommunicate them and let them go and crap in someone else's stew.Thank you moderator for posting her attack.I needed to read that first thing this morning.(I know it's not morning but I do get up late. My new book will be in the MEMBER'S SECTION of the www.mentaltrainingsecrets.com site by tomorrow evening. Sorry for the short delay. My own intensive took a week, then a week with a sick daughter, got back one day, and then Mommy died and we had to go to the Canadian border and take care of her "affairs". It's been a very interesting month)> , "darthon4"> <darthon4@> wrote:> >> > Doc and all,> >> > I think that it's important for a person to have the prerequisites> and preparation. I don't think it's absolutely necessary to have a> trainer to get it if, for instance, you stick with the Energy Medicine book which is user friendly regardless of experience. Though I am extremely thankful that I have trainers and a network of people I can communicate with on some of the more advanced material not found in the book.> > For example, in my case with working with source points, because I> had the prerequisites and some experience, and I had been training with Doc and others experienced in EM, "feedback", I knew right away what caused the pain in my leg and knew exactly what I needed to do to> > clear it out of my leg right away so I could walk again.> > As for the "earned" and "deserved".....my primary element is Metal, need I say more? And I think Mike did a great job of summing it up.> > For me a small nudge of information, a single keyword, is all that's needed for that transderivational search to begin. The process of searching for the answer is invaluable and enjoyable for me! I learn much more that way, and gain a lot of other platinum nuggets along the way I never would have expected or intentionally looked for.> > For me the answer is the journey.> > Lori> > healingenergies-> essentialskills , "docspeed2001"> > <docspeed2001@> wrote:> > >> > > A couple of my friends who are taking the Eden Practitioner's> > > training with xxx asked me "Why is xxxxxxxxx giving out all that> > > information on a group that is open to the public, a public that> has had no training, has not gone to the seminars, has not spent> their own money, and have not learned all the pre-requisites,> especially the necessary verification processes and drills to enhance their skills?"> > > I told them, "I'll ask her".> > > Their concern was several fold:> > > 1. Without the "experience" they cannot get it right> > > 2. Which does cause them to hallucinate skill and knowledge when> > > there is none> > > 3. Without the "feedback" from trainers they'll never know if> they are doing it right or wrong> > > 4. Then of course there is the "earned" factor, which few on this list and most lists (including my own 4 lists) have> > > 5. Then of course there is the "deserved" factor, which is> closely related to the "earned" factor> > > 6. And I really do love the Donna Eden materials and I love them> > > being taught and processed in a manner that is benificial to all> > > Anyway, I decided to post this post openly (it was originally a> > > private post) with all names removed just out of curiosity to> find out what this list thinks, wishes and believes.> > > And I know it makes me the "bad guy", but since I'm a Wood/Metal> this post is in line with my values and criteria...> > > ...which means that to me the above is a great, high quality post.> > >

[Guest guest]

Doc and moderator, she did seem like a really nice person didn't she?

I wonder what happened? Maybe she doesn't understand the Five Elements?

 

It's a valid, sophistocated system that can be verified and has been

around for a few thousand years, and I find nothing high schoolish

about it. I'm not certain why she considers the elements an " excuse " .

 

Donna, a Fire Element, seems to think the Five Elements are important

enough to have integrated them into Energy Medicine. It's one of the

primary energy systems that she teaches about. She even devoted an

advanced class to them.

 

She married a Metal element which both she and he regularly make jokes

about and everyone in her classes gets a big kick out of it ;-)

 

She said part of the reason she thinks they get along so well, being

opposites and all, is because they understand their elements, and also

each other's Sensory System Stress Types. She taught a class on the

Sensory Stress Types during that Color's and Aura's Intensive a few

years ago that was really good. They also have a DVD called " The

Energies of Love " which covers this info in detail.

 

Oh well...

 

Lori

 

 

 

, " docspeed2001 "

<docspeed2001 wrote:

>

> , " alison "

> <aowalison@> wrote:

>

> > (This person is no longer with us, but I am curious to what you

> think of her direct attack? Moderator)

>

> > You know I'm new to this group, but I'm leaving because I thought it

> >it was a massage board about energy healing but it's not. It's about

> >Doc feeling superior to all others and about people kissing his XXX.

> >Doc, you can use your element as an excuse for your behavior but all

> >you end up with is excuses. For all the elevated thought process

> >going on here, it sure sounds like high school to me.

> > Alison

>

> Well Moderator,

>

> That she did turn into a she-bitch is obviously a Wood/Earth elment

> characteristic caused by some type of defensive phobia against sweet

> huggy feely people like me.

>

> She did join on Feb 27 and has posted twice besides this one. She

> seems a nice person and not at all like the one that just posted.

>

> So, who is the real Alison? What triggered her emotional outburst,

> name calling and attack behavior?

>

> I personally think that she has " old " and not yet worked out

> successfully psychological trauma and issues with an ex-husband (or

> the current one) that has strong Wood or Metal characteristics.

>

> So my post, even though very respectful and precise did " push her

> buttons " .

>

> I wonder how much better it would have been for her if she'd taken a

> different approach and gave her own reasons for doing what she does

> and teaching what she teaches (I'm pretty sure she doesn't teach)?

>

> I love people like that.

>

> You just excommunicate them and let them go and crap in someone

> else's stew.

>

> Thank you moderator for posting her attack.

>

> I needed to read that first thing this morning.

>

> (I know it's not morning but I do get up late. My new book will be in

> the MEMBER'S SECTION of the www.mentaltrainingsecrets.com site by

> tomorrow evening. Sorry for the short delay. My own intensive took a

> week, then a week with a sick daughter, got back one day, and then

> Mommy died and we had to go to the Canadian border and take care of

> her " affairs " . It's been a very interesting month)

>

>

>

> > , " darthon4 "

> > <darthon4@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Doc and all,

> > >

> > > I think that it's important for a person to have the prerequisites

> > and preparation. I don't think it's absolutely necessary to have a

> > trainer to get it if, for instance, you stick with the Energy

> Medicine book which is user friendly regardless of experience. Though

> I am extremely thankful that I have trainers and a network of people

> I can communicate with on some of the more advanced material not

> found in the book.

>

> > > For example, in my case with working with source points, because I

> > had the prerequisites and some experience, and I had been training

> with Doc and others experienced in EM, " feedback " , I knew right away

> what caused the pain in my leg and knew exactly what I needed to do to

> > > clear it out of my leg right away so I could walk again.

>

> > > As for the " earned " and " deserved " .....my primary element is

> Metal, need I say more? And I think Mike did a great job of summing

> it up.

>

> > > For me a small nudge of information, a single keyword, is all

> that's needed for that transderivational search to begin. The

> process of searching for the answer is invaluable and enjoyable for

> me! I learn much more that way, and gain a lot of other platinum

> nuggets along the way I never would have expected or intentionally

> looked for.

>

> > > For me the answer is the journey.

>

> > > Lori

>

> > > healingenergies-

> > essentialskills , " docspeed2001 "

> > > <docspeed2001@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > A couple of my friends who are taking the Eden Practitioner's

> > > > training with xxx asked me " Why is xxxxxxxxx giving out all that

> > > > information on a group that is open to the public, a public that

> > has had no training, has not gone to the seminars, has not spent

> > their own money, and have not learned all the pre-requisites,

> > especially the necessary verification processes and drills to

> enhance their skills? "

>

> > > > I told them, " I'll ask her " .

>

> > > > Their concern was several fold:

>

> > > > 1. Without the " experience " they cannot get it right

>

> > > > 2. Which does cause them to hallucinate skill and knowledge when

> > > > there is none

>

> > > > 3. Without the " feedback " from trainers they'll never know if

> > they are doing it right or wrong

>

> > > > 4. Then of course there is the " earned " factor, which few on

> this list and most lists (including my own 4 lists) have

>

> > > > 5. Then of course there is the " deserved " factor, which is

> > closely related to the " earned " factor

>

> > > > 6. And I really do love the Donna Eden materials and I love them

> > > > being taught and processed in a manner that is benificial to all

>

> > > > Anyway, I decided to post this post openly (it was originally a

> > > > private post) with all names removed just out of curiosity to

> > find out what this list thinks, wishes and believes.

>

> > > > And I know it makes me the " bad guy " , but since I'm a Wood/Metal

> > this post is in line with my values and criteria...

>

> > > > ...which means that to me the above is a great, high quality

> post.

>

> > > >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristy,

 

I'll answer both your posts.

 

First, Donna Eden's book Energy Medicine is considered pretty much required reading for this group. There's loads of info in it, and you should give yourself a gift today, and go pick it up.

 

Second, Wood/Earth are elements in the model of the five elements. This is also covered in Energy Medicine.

 

Also, study the archives. There's a LOT of terrific stuff there.

 

- Joe Wadsworth

 

Kristy BLAIR <kristyblair2000 Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 8:19:08 PMRe: It's about Doc feeling superior to all others & kissing his ass

 

 

 

I don't know if you all know me, or if I even introduced myself as of yet. My name is Kristy Blair and I live in Washington state. I am diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder/Depression . I have been on couple of groups and fell out with each one due to religious topics. So that is that. I joined this group hoping to get insight on how to help myself think differently. It is hard. I see a lot of healings by hands here and forgive me, some of the terminology confuses me also. So, overlook me, I'm new and trying to learn what you guys are talking about. I hope to learn more soon. Kristy Blair

 

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docspeed2001

healingenergies- essentialskills

Monday, March 03, 2008 2:34 PM

[healingenergies- essentialskills] It's about Doc feeling superior to all others & kissing his ass

 

 

healingenergies- essentialskills, "alison" <aowalison@. ..> wrote:> (This person is no longer with us, but I am curious to what you think of her direct attack? Moderator)> You know I'm new to this group, but I'm leaving because I thought it>it was a massage board about energy healing but it's not. It's about >Doc feeling superior to all others and about people kissing his XXX. >Doc, you can use your element as an excuse for your behavior but all >you end up with is excuses. For all the elevated thought process >going on here, it sure sounds like high school to me.> AlisonWell Moderator,That she did turn into a

she-bitch is obviously a Wood/Earth elment characteristic caused by some type of defensive phobia against sweet huggy feely people like me. She did join on Feb 27 and has posted twice besides this one. She seems a nice person and not at all like the one that just posted.So, who is the real Alison? What triggered her emotional outburst, name calling and attack behavior?I personally think that she has "old" and not yet worked out successfully psychological trauma and issues with an ex-husband (or the current one) that has strong Wood or Metal characteristics.So my post, even though very respectful and precise did "push her buttons".I wonder how much better it would have been for her if she'd taken a different approach and gave her own reasons for doing what she does and teaching what she teaches (I'm pretty sure she doesn't teach)?I love people like that.You just

excommunicate them and let them go and crap in someone else's stew.Thank you moderator for posting her attack.I needed to read that first thing this morning.(I know it's not morning but I do get up late. My new book will be in the MEMBER'S SECTION of the www.mentaltrainings ecrets.com site by tomorrow evening. Sorry for the short delay. My own intensive took a week, then a week with a sick daughter, got back one day, and then Mommy died and we had to go to the Canadian border and take care of her "affairs". It's been a very interesting month)> healingenergies- essentialskills@ .

com, "darthon4"> <darthon4@> wrote:> >> > Doc and all,> >> > I think that it's important for a person to have the prerequisites> and preparation. I don't think it's absolutely necessary to have a> trainer to get it if, for instance, you stick with the Energy Medicine book which is user friendly regardless of experience. Though I am extremely thankful that I have trainers and a network of people I can communicate with on some of the more advanced material not found in the book.> > For example, in my case with working with source points, because I> had the prerequisites and some experience, and I had been training with Doc and others experienced in EM, "feedback", I knew right away what caused the pain in my leg and knew exactly what I needed to do to> > clear it out of my leg right away so I could walk again.> > As

for the "earned" and "deserved".. ...my primary element is Metal, need I say more? And I think Mike did a great job of summing it up.> > For me a small nudge of information, a single keyword, is all that's needed for that transderivational search to begin. The process of searching for the answer is invaluable and enjoyable for me! I learn much more that way, and gain a lot of other platinum nuggets along the way I never would have expected or intentionally looked for.> > For me the answer is the journey.> > Lori> > healingenergies-> essentialskills, "docspeed2001"> > <docspeed2001@ > wrote:> > >> > > A couple of my

friends who are taking the Eden Practitioner' s> > > training with xxx asked me "Why is xxxxxxxxx giving out all that> > > information on a group that is open to the public, a public that> has had no training, has not gone to the seminars, has not spent> their own money, and have not learned all the pre-requisites,> especially the necessary verification processes and drills to enhance their skills?"> > > I told them, "I'll ask her".> > > Their concern was several fold:> > > 1. Without the "experience" they cannot get it right> > > 2. Which does cause them to hallucinate skill and knowledge when> > > there is none> > > 3. Without the "feedback" from trainers they'll never know if> they are doing it right or wrong> > > 4. Then of course there is the "earned" factor, which few on

this list and most lists (including my own 4 lists) have> > > 5. Then of course there is the "deserved" factor, which is> closely related to the "earned" factor> > > 6. And I really do love the Donna Eden materials and I love them> > > being taught and processed in a manner that is benificial to all> > > Anyway, I decided to post this post openly (it was originally a> > > private post) with all names removed just out of curiosity to> find out what this list thinks, wishes and believes.> > > And I know it makes me the "bad guy", but since I'm a Wood/Metal> this post is in line with my values and criteria...> > > ...which means that to me the above is a great, high quality post.> > >

[Guest guest]

Oh My, hate to hear such derogatory statements from someone such as this person did. I'm new so I have no idea the thing going on here and just want to settle in and become comfortable if I may. Also, all right, I need some help with the 5 elements going on. I know nothing of this at all!!! Sorry, your all probably going, oh no, not again!!! I'm sorry, but I found it interesting and wanted to learn more and maybe could apply it to my own life since other things do not seem to help. Curious? Do you take meds for your conditions at all? Thanks. Kristy

 

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darthon4

Monday, March 03, 2008 5:33 PM

Re: It's about Doc feeling superior to all others & kissing his ass

 

 

Doc and moderator, she did seem like a really nice person didn't she?I wonder what happened? Maybe she doesn't understand the Five Elements? It's a valid, sophistocated system that can be verified and has beenaround for a few thousand years, and I find nothing high schoolishabout it. I'm not certain why she considers the elements an "excuse". Donna, a Fire Element, seems to think the Five Elements are importantenough to have integrated them into Energy Medicine. It's one of theprimary energy systems that she teaches about. She even devoted anadvanced class to them.She married a Metal element which both she and he regularly make jokesabout and everyone in her classes gets a big kick out of it ;-) She said part of the reason she thinks they get along so well, beingopposites and all, is because they understand their elements, and alsoeach other's Sensory System Stress Types. She taught a class on theSensory Stress Types during that Color's and Aura's Intensive a fewyears ago that was really good. They also have a DVD called "TheEnergies of Love" which covers this info in detail.Oh well...Lori , "docspeed2001"<docspeed2001 wrote:>> , "alison" > <aowalison@> wrote:> > > (This person is no longer with us, but I am curious to what you > think of her direct attack? Moderator)> > > You know I'm new to this group, but I'm leaving because I thought it> >it was a massage board about energy healing but it's not. It's about > >Doc feeling superior to all others and about people kissing his XXX. > >Doc, you can use your element as an excuse for your behavior but all > >you end up with is excuses. For all the elevated thought process > >going on here, it sure sounds like high school to me.> > Alison> > Well Moderator,> > That she did turn into a she-bitch is obviously a Wood/Earth elment > characteristic caused by some type of defensive phobia against sweet > huggy feely people like me. > > She did join on Feb 27 and has posted twice besides this one. She > seems a nice person and not at all like the one that just posted.> > So, who is the real Alison? What triggered her emotional outburst, > name calling and attack behavior?> > I personally think that she has "old" and not yet worked out > successfully psychological trauma and issues with an ex-husband (or > the current one) that has strong Wood or Metal characteristics.> > So my post, even though very respectful and precise did "push her > buttons".> > I wonder how much better it would have been for her if she'd taken a > different approach and gave her own reasons for doing what she does > and teaching what she teaches (I'm pretty sure she doesn't teach)?> > I love people like that.> > You just excommunicate them and let them go and crap in someone > else's stew.> > Thank you moderator for posting her attack.> > I needed to read that first thing this morning.> > (I know it's not morning but I do get up late. My new book will be in > the MEMBER'S SECTION of the www.mentaltrainingsecrets.com site by > tomorrow evening. Sorry for the short delay. My own intensive took a > week, then a week with a sick daughter, got back one day, and then > Mommy died and we had to go to the Canadian border and take care of > her "affairs". It's been a very interesting month)> > > > > , "darthon4"> > <darthon4@> wrote:> > >> > > Doc and all,> > >> > > I think that it's important for a person to have the prerequisites> > and preparation. I don't think it's absolutely necessary to have a> > trainer to get it if, for instance, you stick with the Energy > Medicine book which is user friendly regardless of experience. Though > I am extremely thankful that I have trainers and a network of people > I can communicate with on some of the more advanced material not > found in the book.> > > > For example, in my case with working with source points, because I> > had the prerequisites and some experience, and I had been training > with Doc and others experienced in EM, "feedback", I knew right away > what caused the pain in my leg and knew exactly what I needed to do to> > > clear it out of my leg right away so I could walk again.> > > > As for the "earned" and "deserved".....my primary element is > Metal, need I say more? And I think Mike did a great job of summing > it up.> > > > For me a small nudge of information, a single keyword, is all > that's needed for that transderivational search to begin. The > process of searching for the answer is invaluable and enjoyable for > me! I learn much more that way, and gain a lot of other platinum > nuggets along the way I never would have expected or intentionally > looked for.> > > > For me the answer is the journey.> > > > Lori> > > > healingenergies-> > essentialskills , "docspeed2001"> > > <docspeed2001@> wrote:> > > >> > > > A couple of my friends who are taking the Eden Practitioner's> > > > training with xxx asked me "Why is xxxxxxxxx giving out all that> > > > information on a group that is open to the public, a public that> > has had no training, has not gone to the seminars, has not spent> > their own money, and have not learned all the pre-requisites,> > especially the necessary verification processes and drills to > enhance their skills?"> > > > > I told them, "I'll ask her".> > > > > Their concern was several fold:> > > > > 1. Without the "experience" they cannot get it right> > > > > 2. Which does cause them to hallucinate skill and knowledge when> > > > there is none> > > > > 3. Without the "feedback" from trainers they'll never know if> > they are doing it right or wrong> > > > > 4. Then of course there is the "earned" factor, which few on > this list and most lists (including my own 4 lists) have> > > > > 5. Then of course there is the "deserved" factor, which is> > closely related to the "earned" factor> > > > > 6. And I really do love the Donna Eden materials and I love them> > > > being taught and processed in a manner that is benificial to all> > > > > Anyway, I decided to post this post openly (it was originally a> > > > private post) with all names removed just out of curiosity to> > find out what this list thinks, wishes and believes.> > > > > And I know it makes me the "bad guy", but since I'm a Wood/Metal> > this post is in line with my values and criteria...> > > > > ...which means that to me the above is a great, high quality > post.> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristy,

 

Welcome to this group. If you read the first post in this thread

you're probably quite confused. Good for you for asking.

 

You should read Donna Eden's book, Energy Medicine. " I got my copy

from the library and then decided I needed my own. ;-} This will help

you to understand much of what is being discussed.

 

Actually you can go to Youtube and put " Donna Eden " in the search bar.

As recently as a few days ago, many of her basic drills on videos were

available there. By the way this isn't a substitute for reading the

book, there's a lot more information than what is in the videos.

 

It's also very important to start reading the archives or at least do

an archive search when you have a question. Then you will be less

likely to ask something that was gone over many times before.

Then what I do, is " Google " any terms I still don't understand. If the

list of links that comes up is too long, I add the phrase " Energy

Medicine " or NLP to the search.

 

Reading the archives or least a few months of back posts will give you

an idea of the forum dynamic. There's something Doc calls propulsion

systems, NLP term, that seems to factor into this. Even though it's a

wonderful group, sometimes members become offended and leave because

they don't take this dynamic into consideration. It's so sad because

there really is so much to learn here for those willing to do the

work. I hope you find this true too.

Welcome,

barb(bbtried)

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristy,

 

Welcome to the group. For starters I would suggest begin reading the

back posts starting from post number one, a sure way to quickly grasp

the unique character of this great group ;-) and pick up unlimited

gold nuggets along the way

 

I'll also add to what several have already said, Start with Donna

Eden's " Energy Medicine " book (required reading for this group),

there's a whole section in there devoted to the Five Elements from her

perspective. If after reading that you find you want to know even

more, she has a set of videos called " The Five Rhythms " . Very fun to

watch and learn from!

 

" meds " ?

 

Lori

 

 

, " Kristy BLAIR "

<kristyblair2000 wrote:

>

> Oh My, hate to hear such derogatory statements from someone such as

this person did. I'm new so I have no idea the thing going on here and

just want to settle in and become comfortable if I may. Also, all

right, I need some help with the 5 elements going on. I know nothing

of this at all!!! Sorry, your all probably going, oh no, not again!!!

I'm sorry, but I found it interesting and wanted to learn more and

maybe could apply it to my own life since other things do not seem to

help. Curious? Do you take meds for your conditions at all? Thanks. Kristy

> -

> darthon4<darthon4

> To:

<healingenergies-essential\

skills >

 

> Monday, March 03, 2008 5:33 PM

> Re: It's about Doc

feeling superior to all others & kissing his ass

>

>

> Doc and moderator, she did seem like a really nice person didn't she?

> I wonder what happened? Maybe she doesn't understand the Five

Elements?

>

> It's a valid, sophistocated system that can be verified and has been

> around for a few thousand years, and I find nothing high schoolish

> about it. I'm not certain why she considers the elements an " excuse " .

>

> Donna, a Fire Element, seems to think the Five Elements are important

> enough to have integrated them into Energy Medicine. It's one of the

> primary energy systems that she teaches about. She even devoted an

> advanced class to them.

>

> She married a Metal element which both she and he regularly make jokes

> about and everyone in her classes gets a big kick out of it ;-)

>

> She said part of the reason she thinks they get along so well, being

> opposites and all, is because they understand their elements, and also

> each other's Sensory System Stress Types. She taught a class on the

> Sensory Stress Types during that Color's and Aura's Intensive a few

> years ago that was really good. They also have a DVD called " The

> Energies of Love " which covers this info in detail.

>

> Oh well...

>

> Lori

>

> --- In

<healingenergies-essential\

skills%40>,

" docspeed2001 "

> <docspeed2001@> wrote:

> >

> > --- In

<healingenergies-essential\

skills%40>,

" alison "

> > <aowalison@> wrote:

> >

> > > (This person is no longer with us, but I am curious to what you

> > think of her direct attack? Moderator)

> >

> > > You know I'm new to this group, but I'm leaving because I

thought it

> > >it was a massage board about energy healing but it's not. It's

about

> > >Doc feeling superior to all others and about people kissing his

XXX.

> > >Doc, you can use your element as an excuse for your behavior

but all

> > >you end up with is excuses. For all the elevated thought process

> > >going on here, it sure sounds like high school to me.

> > > Alison

> >

> > Well Moderator,

> >

> > That she did turn into a she-bitch is obviously a Wood/Earth elment

> > characteristic caused by some type of defensive phobia against

sweet

> > huggy feely people like me.

> >

> > She did join on Feb 27 and has posted twice besides this one. She

> > seems a nice person and not at all like the one that just posted.

> >

> > So, who is the real Alison? What triggered her emotional outburst,

> > name calling and attack behavior?

> >

> > I personally think that she has " old " and not yet worked out

> > successfully psychological trauma and issues with an ex-husband (or

> > the current one) that has strong Wood or Metal characteristics.

> >

> > So my post, even though very respectful and precise did " push her

> > buttons " .

> >

> > I wonder how much better it would have been for her if she'd

taken a

> > different approach and gave her own reasons for doing what she does

> > and teaching what she teaches (I'm pretty sure she doesn't teach)?

> >

> > I love people like that.

> >

> > You just excommunicate them and let them go and crap in someone

> > else's stew.

> >

> > Thank you moderator for posting her attack.

> >

> > I needed to read that first thing this morning.

> >

> > (I know it's not morning but I do get up late. My new book will

be in

> > the MEMBER'S SECTION of the www.mentaltrainingsecrets.com site by

> > tomorrow evening. Sorry for the short delay. My own intensive

took a

> > week, then a week with a sick daughter, got back one day, and then

> > Mommy died and we had to go to the Canadian border and take care of

> > her " affairs " . It's been a very interesting month)

> >

> >

> >

> > > --- In

<healingenergies-essential\

skills%40>,

" darthon4 "

> > > <darthon4@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Doc and all,

> > > >

> > > > I think that it's important for a person to have the

prerequisites

> > > and preparation. I don't think it's absolutely necessary to have a

> > > trainer to get it if, for instance, you stick with the Energy

> > Medicine book which is user friendly regardless of experience.

Though

> > I am extremely thankful that I have trainers and a network of

people

> > I can communicate with on some of the more advanced material not

> > found in the book.

> >

> > > > For example, in my case with working with source points,

because I

> > > had the prerequisites and some experience, and I had been

training

> > with Doc and others experienced in EM, " feedback " , I knew right

away

> > what caused the pain in my leg and knew exactly what I needed to

do to

> > > > clear it out of my leg right away so I could walk again.

> >

> > > > As for the " earned " and " deserved " .....my primary element is

> > Metal, need I say more? And I think Mike did a great job of summing

> > it up.

> >

> > > > For me a small nudge of information, a single keyword, is all

> > that's needed for that transderivational search to begin. The

> > process of searching for the answer is invaluable and enjoyable for

> > me! I learn much more that way, and gain a lot of other platinum

> > nuggets along the way I never would have expected or intentionally

> > looked for.

> >

> > > > For me the answer is the journey.

> >

> > > > Lori

> >

> > > > healingenergies-

> > >

essentialskills <essentialskills%40>,

" docspeed2001 "

> > > > <docspeed2001@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > A couple of my friends who are taking the Eden Practitioner's

> > > > > training with xxx asked me " Why is xxxxxxxxx giving out

all that

> > > > > information on a group that is open to the public, a

public that

> > > has had no training, has not gone to the seminars, has not spent

> > > their own money, and have not learned all the pre-requisites,

> > > especially the necessary verification processes and drills to

> > enhance their skills? "

> >

> > > > > I told them, " I'll ask her " .

> >

> > > > > Their concern was several fold:

> >

> > > > > 1. Without the " experience " they cannot get it right

> >

> > > > > 2. Which does cause them to hallucinate skill and

knowledge when

> > > > > there is none

> >

> > > > > 3. Without the " feedback " from trainers they'll never know if

> > > they are doing it right or wrong

> >

> > > > > 4. Then of course there is the " earned " factor, which few on

> > this list and most lists (including my own 4 lists) have

> >

> > > > > 5. Then of course there is the " deserved " factor, which is

> > > closely related to the " earned " factor

> >

> > > > > 6. And I really do love the Donna Eden materials and I

love them

> > > > > being taught and processed in a manner that is benificial

to all

> >

> > > > > Anyway, I decided to post this post openly (it was

originally a

> > > > > private post) with all names removed just out of curiosity to

> > > find out what this list thinks, wishes and believes.

> >

> > > > > And I know it makes me the " bad guy " , but since I'm a

Wood/Metal

> > > this post is in line with my values and criteria...

> >

> > > > > ...which means that to me the above is a great, high quality

> > post.

> >

> > > > >

> >

>